#public decorum

[ammit]

Here's the thing...

I'm sitting in the drive-thru of a local Mexican food restaurant patiently moving forward at what feels like an incredibly slow pace, as I was late getting to work. A young girl pulls in behind me just as I am getting ready to place my order. As I opened my mouth, she cranks up the music in her car to a decibel level that made everything within a 100 yard radius of her stereo thump and rattle. Needless to say I am just a bit perturbed because her lack of consideration has made it close to impossible for me to even place my order. No less she most definitely knew the sound level was an issue considering she lowered it to place her order. Alright, so my order is placed finally, her order is in and we are now all lined up like kids in a school cafeteria. My back of the line-tormentor decides to crank up the volume to new heights of obnoxiousness. Look, I don't care what anyone listens to, in fact I am a big advocate of free expression. However, if what you want to do makes it impossible for anyone else in the near vicinity to do what they want to do then you are simply imposing on everyone else. Learn some manners, and grow the hell up. I love to listen to my radio at insane decibel levels while driving the freeway to my job, however, I am fairly certain my freeway entertainment style is innocuous to those others around me rocketing to their jobs and homes at speeds of over 70 miles an hour. Not mention I can't remember the last time I actually had to communicate verbally out of my car window to another person while driving down the freeway.

[ammit]

And his point was?

This is an excerpt from a thread I have been following for some time now. The entire dialog can be read here. The response was posted by a user known to me only as Flyboy. His post is difficult to follow for the most part due to his overall (as expressed by him) lack of knowledge on how to use HTML to better clarify separate quotes. It would also have been helpful for you to have been following the thread, so I have taken the time to indicate the portions of this excerpt that were quotes from another respondent on this thread in deference to the other poster's dialog. Posted: July 8th, 2007 at 9:03 pm Flyboy (quote from earlier post): ” You said you were a good father. I plan on being a father someday. So, possibly for my own benefit, what constitutes “good?” Ironwolf (quote from earlier post): "You’re either asking me for general advice on being a good father, or for a defense of my morals in general. Which is it?” Flyboy: 1) Why don’t you answer my question? 2) If that is not a clear and concise question, and if “Is that wrong” is not clear and concise, how is “Which is it?” a clear and concise question? Ironwolf (a repeat of the previously quoted post): You’re either asking me for general advice on being a good father, or for a defense of my morals in general. Which is it? Flyboy (a quote from an earlier post): ” You have 2 kids? And I’m sure you love them with all your heart. Am I right? Ironwolf (quote in response to the previous citation): They are wonderful kids, and I love them deeply.” Flyboy: You love them deeply. Why didn’t you give them up for stem cell research? Do unto others as you would have them do unto you, right? This goes on at length, and I invite you to indulge your curiosity by visiting the link I provided above. For the most part Althusius, the blog's host has maintained a fairly well presented argument on his behalf, whether I share his view point is irrelevant. He at least presents himself in a fairly coherent and well read fashion. This interloper, Flyboy has sullied an otherwise interesting discussion with a fairly common reactive based response that not only makes little if any sense at all, but in my humble opinion leaves much to be desired when it comes to showing respect to those around you in general. What's even better is Flyboy's constant return to an already thoroughly covered topic regarding morality on Ironwolf's blog. My question at this point becomes this, "What sort of morals do you claim to practice in the name of your precious God that justify such behaviors towards your fellow human beings?" I do believe that the bible (as fallacious as it is in my eyes) expresses that Jesus' sentiment with regards to how we should treat others. "But I tell you: Love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you..." Matthew 5:44 With Christians like these who needs God?