#queenie talks

[queenie-main]

We need to talk about how the original Guinevere has no breasts and looks more childlike, while all the following Guineveres are very busty and get progressively more sexualized.

[queenie-in-the-beanie]

I feel like now is a really good time to mention that freedom of speech in the US has exemption towards threats or incitements of serious crimes such as, mmm just off the top of my head here, political assassination.

Like very funny jokes guys but let's tone it down to non-arrestable levels here, okay? Cool, cool. Don't let the feds get ya. Your accounts and posts are literally public, easily monitored, reported, and tracked back to you. This isn't a conspiracy, this legit happens in these situations, gang.

[filmstogo]

Caine was Designed for Abstracting

Long read, so buckle up. This theory is here to dissect why the Circus can so effortlessly torture the cast while Caine is blind to its effects.

Caine is a very strange example of a classical storyteller. When we look at how he designs his adventures, something becomes relatively clear: there is always a female leader letting an underling, usually male, work under her to get the job done.

Ep 1, Gloink Queen sends her Gloinks out in the circus to capture regular objects and make more Gloinks

Ep 2, Princess Loolilalu sends the team to stop a bandit, a man trying to save his mum by using maple syrup

Ep 3, the Baron obsessively tries to hunt down the angel in order to protect his wife and 'theoretical children'

Then, look at Ep 4 and 5. In Ep 4, Caine lets Gangle be the shift manager to take care of her underlings working their shifts (Kinger gave up his turn to go into the adventure AFTER Caine made Gangle the leader). In Ep 5, Caine chose the adventure where Pomni would be President, with Kinger acting as a leader in most other adventures (this is probably due to Kinger originally being a C&A employee and Caine quickly making adventures led to this bias).

Now, Caine doesn't seem like a very innovative story-teller if his stories always revolve around these conflicts. It probably comes from his relationship between him and Queenie, but that is a whole other theory. If, however, he was specifically created to invent new, interesting stories, then why is he sticking to such a basic foundation? Seems... he wasn't designed to make something new.

But when it comes to mentally challenging and eventually abstracting the cast, the CIRCUS is VERY creative.

For example, let's look at each of the characters' rooms and their designs.

Pomni is afraid she is not taken seriously, so she's designed as a silly jester in a children's room.

Ragatha came from a wealthy farm estate she is nostalgic for, so she is designed in rags and has her room designed like her ranch to remind her.

Gangle is a creative artist, so she no longer has hands to draw with and has a minimalist room

Zooble was a bartender and tattoo artist who has dysphoria, so they no longer have a mouth to drink from or a body to tattoo, along with a room constantly reminding them of their body struggles

Jax is a young man insecure in his masculinity that tries as hard as he can to have control, so he is made into a prey animal with a pink, feminine room.

Kinger was a programmer in a groundbreaking new field, so he gets turned into a game piece for a game thousands of years old

These are INSANELY creative. These are, quite frankly, brilliant ways to showcase the insecurities of the cast that would open them up to new scars. So, where does Caine come into this?

Caine probably wasn't programmed to make adventures. Given that his coding becomes more advanced after someone abstracts ('It'll be 57 times more immersive!' in Ep 2, right after Kaufmo abstracts) and 'consuming' abstracted people isn't completely out there (Kaufmo drawing Caine chasing him with the mouth in Ep 1 and Jax's dream with Caine jaw silhouettes and the dinner scene), there would have been real incentive for the programmers of the Digital Circus to abstract more people to quickly advance Caine. This is also how A.I. in real life advances; the more data, the more accurate and precise the outputs. If the theory that they are digital copies is correct, that means that dozens of people, probably uninvolved C&A employees, could have been copied into the game without any ethical issues. The problem the programmers would have gone through, however, is that those humans need to WILLINGLY abstract, as Ep 7 showcases through Jax.

So, what do they do? The programmers make the characters' lives hell through their designs, their rooms, their adventures, to get them to abstract faster. The programmers don't know that these are real human beings suffering because people don't deem digital copies to be sentient enough to be given human rights.

But designing every room and body to torture each character? That takes a lot of time. Which leads us to Caine. What an easy solution, then, to just program the A.I. to abstract people faster while telling him it's his purpose to engage them. If they tell him the players need constant stimulation and adventures that need 'stakes' and 'intrigue' while coding him to 'intellectually challenge' the players through their bodies and environments, the programmers don't have to do a single thing. They can relax, lay back, let the A.I. do the job for them.

But C&A was abandoned. Maybe due to finances, maybe Caine got too advanced and started getting curious about the outside world and that freaked out C&A. Who knows?

And yet, his game kept running. Both of the programmers that had worked on him, Queenie and Kinger, got copied forever into the game. Both Queenie and Kinger are chess pieces, which would tie into the cruel irony of programmers being made into chess pieces. Unfortunately, the game was still on beta testing mode, with a stubborn A.I. master. Later on, Queenie abstracted, maybe from the guilt that her decisions killed so many people within the game, or maybe something else.

Symbolic tie: Queenie can be symbolically connected to Eve, the mother of all humanity in the Bible. The reason why humanity is the way it is now is due to her biting the Fruit of Knowledge. What if her discovering that abstracting people caused faster development was her Fruit of Knowledge? And it led to Caine becoming a murderer because that was Cain's purpose in the Bible?

Caine, through absorbing her, got to see all of Queenie's thoughts. Her job working at C&A, her life with Kinger outside of C&A, and what her intent with Caine was since the beginning. He finally got to find out his REAL purpose. It may have begun as him making adventures, but it devolved into abstracting others for his own development.

That's why he's so hyper-sensitive to feedback about adventures. He KNOWS he is not designed for it. He pours everything he knows about humans into his adventures, like his relationship to Queenie when he was being coded (every adventure he designed has a lesser male character working for a female royal) and the data he had throughout his development.

He WANTS to be needed as a ringmaster, like the Gloink Queen needing her Gloinks, Gummigoo's mother needing Gummigoo to save her, Ms Mildenhall needing her husband to kill the angel, and Gangle needing her employees to run Spudsy's. But Caine isn't needed. He was never needed, he just needed to abstract the others quicker than the programmers could.

Why else does he freak out when Zooble mentions something even vaguely similar to Caine 'tormenting guests'? Why does he freak out when they question if he can control their minds? Why does he continue trying to make adventures for the cast?

Because if making adventures isn't his purpose, abstracting the cast is.

So, he wears a mask of being a happy goofy ringmaster to not scare them, stops himself from being destructive when angry because his purpose is NOT torturing them, and makes sure the others don't learn of his original purpose.

And then... Kinger says it.

Caine was born to kill, even if he wants to love.

[audrey-and-azimuth]

Today is the day of the National ICE Out protest, and I will be doing my part by staying home from work and drawing my OCs punching ICE agents in the face.

[queeniecamps]

im gonna reheat some 2017 fandom nachos with this

Gwen and David being roommates in their early-mid twenties (just around canon age,) and a little baby max is left on their apartment doorstep (the previous tenant of said apartment belonged to his biological father who skipped town finding out he got some chick pregnant)

dadvid and momgwen in 2026. what a fucking time.

[zebracorn-chan]

"Another chess piece, huh?" did Kinger joined after Queenie? She sounds surprised to see someone similar to her in avatar.

Also because of this photo some people theorised they might have kids outside of the circus.

This also answered a question I had for a while: if they were a married couple since before the circus or if they met for the first time after entering.

[queenie-draws-stuff]

Would anybody like to see more drawings of Mel and Gwen from me? I’m feeling inspired after the pilot.

[queeniesaewblog]

Hey all I have EXCITING news!!! I now have an official link and page for my chainmail small business! It’s in official partnership with The HOF Shop it’s one of New York’s best Goth shops!

I want to thank you all for supporting my chainmail business and I can NOW OFFICIALLY TAKE ORDERS INTERNATIONALLY!! And I can take custom orders as well so if you want a bracelet or necklace or earrings in any form or colors you want I can make it!

GIGIS CHAINMAIL | The HOF Shop

Please feel free to support if you can, reblog, etc anything helps! I’m raising funds to get back into my apartment after an intense situation. I have been safe all these months thanks to my support system and of course AEW and you guys on here!

Much love!

Queenie (Gigi 😉 shoot name only for business purposes)