Updates to the Rogue Kids and Their Home Lives, also some Rogue Kids-verse Updates
Firstly, as far as I’m concerned the Rogue Kids-verse is still continuous with @the-mighty-sorceress‘s rogue kids content I’m just updating the current Rogue Kids notes.
As some baseline housekeeping there are some changes to ages and names:
Age Order is now: Ellie (17), Leo (17), Tobi (17), Barbara & Todd (17), Aisling (17), Hunter (17), Lavender (17), Gwen (16), Zeke (16), Dorothy (16), Clover (16), Lizzie (16), Ayah (16), Max (15), Violet (15), Marcus (15), Eva (14), Pluto (14), Aiden (14), Cosette (14), Niall (13), Jeremy (11).
There are a bunch of new full names I will include in an updated stat page when I get the chance.
Most notably a lot of Rogue kids now have two named parents instead of making their non-rogue parents nameless and in the void.
WonderCrow elements were removed, I didn’t think they fit anymore.
Tobi
So, I’ve brought up consistently that Zach adopted Tobi, which he did. Zach was close personal friends with Jae-Min Park, Tobi’s father, and Jae-Min and his wife, Se-Hyeon, named Zach their son, Yi-Seul’s, godfather. However, the year after Yi-Seul was born, there was a break in, and Jae-Min and Se-Hyeon were killed. Tobi’s legal first name is still Yi-Seul, Zach didn’t change it, but he goes by Tobi in public. Zach owns a tattoo parlor and lives over it, which gives Tobi a pretty stable home life, though he does struggle a lot with the loss of his parents, just as Zach struggles with the loss of such a close friend.
Dorothy & Pluto
Dorothy and Pluto live with both their parents, Jonathan and Ophelia. Ophelia is a well-known horror author who draws from both her love of classic gothic literature and the Cree folklore she grew up with. Jonathan, after retiring the Scarecrow, ended up being reinvited to teach at Gotham University–provided he had a relatively clean bill of mental health. Jonathan and Ophelia are raising Dorothy and Pluto in Gotham, and their home life is relatively stable, or as stable as a household with Jonathan in it can get.
Zeke
Zeke’s home life is probably my biggest change, since Harvey no longer has custody of Zeke. Instead, Zeke lives with his mother, Harvey’s ex-fiancee Grace Lamont. Zeke kept the name they’d already planned and Harvey is aware of him. Grace is a good parent, a lot of Zeke’s issues stem from Harvey’s inconsistent presence in his life. Harvey…isn’t a great parent. His temper can be explosive and violent, and during periods where Zeke has been in contact with him, they’ve consistently ended with Harvey getting physically abusive. Further, he’s often very critical of Zeke’s appearance. Grace does her best to mitigate Harvey’s effect on her son, and in the current timeline they have a protective order against Harvey, who has broken it multiple times. She and Zeke are extremely close as a result of their shared trauma, and a lot of the retired gallery has gathered to keep them safe.
Eva
Eva lives predominantly with Nora and her stepfather Francis D’Anjou. Victor doesn’t interact with his daughter very closely and in fact avoids Eva and Nora, believing his presence is a dark spot on their otherwise happy life. Francis and Eva have a strained relationship due to Francis’ own hangups about living with the daughter of a Gotham Rogue, but Nora and Eva’s relationship is very good.
Violet
Violet and Max live together still, now with the addition of a mother, Sofia. Max and Sofia both play in an orchestra and Violet is their cherished daughter. Violet’s home life is extremely stable.
Clover & Lavender
Lavender and Clover are plant-human hybrids Pamela created on her own. Pamela works in botany and raises her two children as best she can. Pamela’s parenting is…interesting. She struggles with denying her children of anything, but has a hard time hiding her disapproval. As stable as Lavender and Clover’s lives are, they definitely do rebel a lot more than Pamela thinks they do.
Ayah & Hunter
Ayah and Hunter live predominantly with their mother, Delilah. This isn’t to say she and Waylon are separated, but Waylon keeps his distance from his family, often overworking himself doing odd jobs. Delilah works at Leslie Thompkin’s Clinic as a doctor, and looks after Ayah and Hunter most of the time. Waylon’s distance is a result of Ayah and Hunter inheriting a less severe version of his condition, bearing small scale growths and the reptilian eyes (Ayah also inherited the sharp teeth). No matter how much Delilah loves Waylon and her children, Waylon has deeply ingrained insecurities he can’t let go of.
Aiden & Cosette
So Aiden and Cosette both have surrogate mothers, friends of Garfield and Drury who were willing to give the two chances to be fathers. Drury and Garfield are married and live together with Aiden and Cosette, Drury as an artist and Garfield still at his job with WayneTech. Aiden is on the spectrum, something Drury and Garfield do consistently manage but it can be a struggle especially since they also have to juggle their own mental health. Regardless, Aiden and Cosette are very happy and healthy. They also get to see their mothers, Estelle and Ivette, regularly.
Aisling, Max, & Niall
Lonnie’s three kids all still have different mothers, but only Max ever spent time in the custody of his grandparents. Lonnie was cut off from Aisling and Max until Aisling was fifteen and Max was thirteen, mostly due to the work of his parents. Aisling’s mother, Siobhan, had the wherewithal to not trust Lonnie’s parents with her daughter. Molly, Max’s mother, got very sick when Max was six, and gave Max to his paternal grandparents out of desperation. Aisling’s childhood was fairly happy, but Siobhan had to deal with a lot of harassment from Lonnie’s parents, including repeated CPS calls. Max spent his seven years with his grandparents being repeatedly abused, and Lonnie barely got custody of him back. In that time, Lonnie had youngest, Niall, and married Niall’s mother, Erin. Thanks to the legal battle, Aisling splits her time with Siobhan and Lonnie, but spends most of her time with Siobhan. Max and Niall are primarily in Lonnie’s custody since Molly is unable to care for Max. Lonnie works at WayneTech and works hard to provide for his children. His relationship with Aisling is strained because of his absence in her life, and much of his time with Max is spent trying to mitigate some of the damage done. Erin and Max have a difficult relationship, not that Erin isn’t trying but Max is very close to his mother and has trouble adjusting to the concept that his parents aren’t together. Niall’s childhood was happy, but he’s going through a small case of dethroning, especially with how much time Max and his trauma often take up.
Ellie & Lizzie
Edward and Selina made the decision to retire from Rogue activities when Selina realized she was pregnant with Ellie. They married after Ellie was born and had Lizzie a few years later. Edward does freelance IT, predominantly for WayneTech and Janus Industries, and Selina works at her parents’ cafe with the understanding that she’ll probably take over ownership. Ellie and Lizzie’s home life is stable and Selina and Edward had a lot of support from Selina’s parents early on.
Barbara & Todd
So, Joker is not a fixed presence in Todd and Barbara’s lives, he’s actually not even their legal father. R’as al Ghul’s separation of Joker and Jack still happened in the Rogue Kids-verse, and thus Jack is considered their father by the courts, which pisses off Joker immensely. Jack and Harley own and operate a bakery called Jester’s Sweets and live over the bakery. While Joker makes occasional appearances in their lives and these appearances can be frightening, Joker avoids Jack like the plague and Jack has made a fairly consistent effort to teach Todd and Barbara how to fight back. As an additional note, Todd and Barbara’s names are now more tributes by Jack than jokes by Joker, evidenced further by their middle names: Reagan (Jack’s father) and Jeanne (Jack’s first wife). Aside from Joker’s occasional appearances, Todd and Barbara live a fairly happy life.
Leo
Leo’s mother, Anita, teaches Linguistics at Gotham University. When Leo was little, Angel still did some work in the underground as Bane, but chose to stop for Leo and Anita’s sake. Currently he works at WayneTech (a pattern you’ll see with a lot of retired Rogues). Leo’s home life is fairly stable, though Angel and Anita’s house does serve sometimes as a shelter for vigilantes and rogues alike.
Gwen
Gwen was adopted by Barbara Gordon very early on, specifically because Gwen’s mother, Mary, didn’t trust herself to care for Gwen properly, and Gwen’s father, Jervis, wasn’t allowed to care for her for a myriad of reasons. Barbara makes sure Gwen’s home life is stable and happy, and Mary has some visitation with her daughter. Their relationship is good, but Mary’s more of an aunt than a mother. Gwen’s relationship with Jervis is distant, nearly nonexistent. He returned to Cornwall after a while and now he only sends the occasional card.
Jeremy
Jason’s vigilante work with the Outsiders kind of hits a hiccup when Jeremy becomes a factor in his life, especially since Jeremy’s mother, Valerie, isn’t very keen on raising Jeremy alone (and Jason isn’t about to make her). Jason does make the effort to keep up his vigilante work, and Valerie’s pretty alright with living on the road. I can go into how Jeremy feels about it because it’s not always the coolest continuous roadtrip ever, but the household is stable for a growing boy.
Marcus
Here’s a bit of a complex issue. Marcus does live with his parents, Louise and George, but because both are regularly working abroad, Marcus has spent a lot of time in his grandfather Arnold’s house, which means he has spent a lot of time around Scarface, who realistically should not be in charge of children even slightly. Marcus’ parents didn’t have the knowledge to kneep Marcus away from Arnold until much later, and by then, the damage had already been done to Marcus’ mental health. Louise and George do work to keep Marcus’ life stable, but they remain frequently busy.















