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Less than a month to go! Third promotional image for Log Horizon: Destruction of the Round Table, featuring the main characters of Volume 13.

Lelia Mofur (right) will be voiced by Manaka Iwami, while Litka Mofur (left) will be voiced by Nanami Yamashita.

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Was rereading volume 3 on a whim and... man, the fact that Rudy took an arrow to the skull before while he was still a regular Person of the Earth, got dangerously close to dying a few times in that dungeon, and STILL didn’t let that deter him from his dream? Dude’s seriously hardcore.

(In the anime, Rudy caught the arrow between his fingers instead... which is still impressive, but doesn’t go as hard as the LN version once you find out that Rudy’s a Lander.)

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Thought for the night, brought on by rikkamaru’s question about Lander classes:

It’s known that Landers have less detailed profiles. In S1 episode 10, it is seen when some are seen bowing down to the Eastal League’s procession into Akiba; the only thing that shows up for their status screen is the fact that they’re a Lander, and an HP gauge.

Which leads me to wonder two things: 1) Why is it that some Landers have detailed statuses while others do not, and 2) How exactly do “unique” classes work?

In regards to the Ten Seats’ Lander members having detailed status screens, I dug up some while ago from Mamare’s notes that Plant Hwyaden developed the “Menu Cheat” to add or change features in the game menu, though it can’t add features that no longer exist like the mini-map. This could go to explain why their members have detailed menus.

However, even then, Rudy and Elias were depicted with detailed statuses and they aren’t associated with PH at all. Originally, it could be argued that Rudy’s was made up in the anime to throw people off from the reveal (of course, it could still be that reason), but then it should also be noted that we never get a look at Rayneshia or Li Gan’s profiles.

This might indicate that Landers who train to a certain level of combat proficiency will be able to acquire detailed status screens with special UI to match. (Li Gan admits to being proficient enough in combat magic to be able to take on Lander knights, but as it is neither his specialty nor interest, his class is a rather passive Lore Master with no known unique icon.)

We see that Mizufa (Warlord), Elias (Blademancer), and Jered Gan (Archmage) have unique icons and colors for their classes. What’s more, their icons take elements from existing classes’: Mizufa’s uses the shield from Guardian, Elias’ uses the Sorcerer’s staff, and Jered’s uses a variation of the Enchanter’s eye. While Mizufa’s UI color is blue, which is not used in any other class’ color scheme, Elias’ is in line with both the Warrior and Mage classes. Jered’s, however, is interesting -- despite using the Enchanter’s eye, the color scheme is purple, closer to the Healer classes’ colors rather than the dark green of the Mage classes.

It seems that they have an “evolved” version of the Adventurer classes, so to speak. Classes that go beyond the rigid lines of the “god-given” presets that Adventurers have to adhere to. Given how I mentioned in rikka’s ask that Landers need to actually train to acquire their classes, it’s possible that they are capable of “creating” new class-combinations that can eventually be “accepted” by the world laws as a valid Lander class.

Given that the four Landers we know of with traditional Adventurer classes are all relatively young, it’s possible that given time, they too could “obtain” unique classes. It’s comparable to the Overskills/Mysteries that the Adventurers develop, just a tad more unknowns since up to this point, it’s been indicated that Landers don’t wholly have free thought (re: unable to discover real flavor or develop more than 42 songs).

Assuming this is true, though, this may further explain why the Genius gunned for the Ancients first: the more experienced, powerful ones among them probably had unique classes like Elias’ and thus had more unknowns for them to deal with. Sealing them away would narrow the scope of their trouble to Adventurers, who have a fixed set of classes and skills to work with. Which is, then, logically why Overskills are crucial to defeating them.

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Hi sorry to bother you but I want to ask you a question about the Log Horizon light novel Are Rudy and Isuzu still friends or there is more between them now Thank you and I hope you will answer my question

They’re basically dating, but I’m not sure if they’re actually admitting to it. Last I checked in volume 8, she still pulls the dog card on Rudy but I’m not sure whether that’s progressed by volume 13.

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I haven’t read through the entirety of volume 8 yet, but some thoughts about Isuzu and Rudy have been on my mind.

There are a couple of people in the western LH fandom that really don’t like the way that Isuzu treats Rudy, what with the dog treatment and hitting him a lot. (The JP fandom, for the most part, don’t seem to mind that stuff.)

The thing about the way that she treats him is, I get a feeling that Mamare is actually trying to make commentary about that sort of “character archetype” through Rudy’s perspective on it. (The “character archetype” being that anime/manga trope where a female character hits/attacks a male character for doing anything that steps out of their perceived line; in particular, usually used when the male character does something “perverted,” accidentally or no. In some cases, they’ll hit the guy if they’re flustered or embarrassed, even if they were given a genuine compliment.)

There are a number of times, through volumes 4, maybe 5, and 8, where Rudy actually points it out when we get to see things through his perspective. He doesn’t understand why she hits him, and then assumes that it’s a normal thing for Adventurers to do.

From volume 8, chapter 5:

At times like this, he knew from experience that if he gave Isuzu practical advice--”Your nose is red,” for example, or “You should go wash your face”--he’d get hit.

This was a point that was particularly worthy of note: Astonishingly, Isuzu would strike him even when he wasn’t angry!

In fact, it happened faster when she wasn’t mad.

[...] In any case, as a rule, he didn’t understand her feelings at all. Rundelhaus had decided that, whether or not one was an Adventurer, this was based in the difference between the sexes, and had given up.

For someone who didn’t live with media or family that displayed that sort of behavior, Isuzu’s use of hitting him for just about anything is absolutely baffling. Given that none of the male characters do the same thing, for obvious reasons, and the anime’s exaggeration of Akatsuki hitting Naotsugu as a running gag (which bled into the novels if volume 7 is any indication), the part about “the difference between the sexes” could be interpreted as Mamare calling out this sort of archetype.

From Isuzu’s perspective, it seems that this kind of stuff is what she grew up around. When recounting her father’s stories, the narration from her perspective says in Chapter 3, “[Her father had] worn a proud, mischievous smirk, and she’d said, ‘You’re creepy, go away,’ and shoved him. In truth, though, she’d been incredibly jealous.”

Given that her dad is also the one who tells her she didn’t have talent, and by the stories he’d told her, it wouldn’t be surprising if she had this sort of behavior ingrained into her as something “normal.” She describes herself as being a completely average person as well, so I wouldn’t be surprised if she saw at least one or two anime, even in passing, that used that exact character archetype I mentioned above and thus saw it as something “humorous” or “normal.”

That she sees her dog-treatment as a form of concern for Rudy, and comes to see her dad’s “you don’t have talent” as a roundabout method of encouraging her, further suggests that she genuinely doesn’t see that sort of behavior as abnormal or insulting. In chapter 5, she lightly hits Rudy’s forehead after he gives her a speech to cheer her up, and in a later segment that is told from her perspective, she acknowledges that “although [she] had treated Rundelhaus harshly to camoflage her irritation, she hadn’t even begun to prepare herself.”

This isn’t to say that Isuzu is excused for her actions, of course. In fact, volume 8 is the start of Isuzu realizing the consequences of her actions. She’s remorseful about how she sang songs to the Landers without even thinking about what the lyrics actually meant, and for making them happy with other people’s songs that she’d treated like her own. But she doesn’t fully think about how this sort of thoughtfulness applied to other aspects of her behavior, and this comes back around in volume 13. 

She eggs Minori on to confess to Shiroe without thinking about how Minori felt about them, or thinking about how Minori feel if she were rejected. By the time she realizes the consequences of her words, Minori’s already went to confess, and all she can do is lament to Rudy how careless she was with Minori’s feelings. (Later, she finds Minori to apologize for it, breaking down into tears again and spending the night with her and Serara, crying and cheering each other up.)

I wonder if Isuzu will start treating Rudy any differently... At the same time, though, the dog treatment seems to be popular enough with most of the JP fans (or at least, not contested) that it’s really up in the air...

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Name: Rundelhous Code From: Log Horizon Date of Birth: 11 November Gender: Male More info: http://log-horizon.wikia.com/wiki/Rundelhous_Code

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Hi! I love your blog and I have a few questions. Could you please explain how Rudy got away with posing as an adventurer for so long? Also who exactly knows about his transformation into a real adventurer? And why hasn't there been any fall out from it? I feel like the show kind of glossed over the ethical implications of it, which confused me because it's usually quite intelligent with handling that kind of stuff.

Allegedly, among Japanese MMO players there’s the idea that checking someone’s stats/profile without asking is very rude, which would go a part in explaining why nobody noticed; checking it would’ve been faux pas for them. (I also heard this on 4chan so I’d take it with a grain of salt even if it kinda makes sense. And also note how those Adventurers in episode 9 or 10 ask Rudy for his level instead of just checking his profile.) Also, Rudy has stats nearly comparable to regular Adventurers, something that is almost unheard of unless you’re one of the Ancients, which he definitely isn’t. So people probably saw him in combat and figured he was just another low-level kid without thinking twice about it. (It also seems that the supervisors were okay with just having contact with at least one person in the group and didn’t bother checking Rudy’s profile.)

Not sure about the second point, but a) Rudy’s not “a real Adventurer” in that he still doesn’t exist IRL and he’s only an Adventurer if he keeps that subclass, and b) I don’t really see a point in contention about it. If anything, the Round Table would see that as useful because there’s now a bridge between Adventurers and Landers. There’s not really much ethical implications, aside from revival which applies to all Adventurers as a whole. Insofar as I’m aware, much of the Adventurer subclass stuff is all technical (granting him revival abilities, expanding his menu, probably EXP gain is increased) and doesn’t involve his ability to age or anything of that sort (not that enough time has passed to tell anyways).

And just to put this out there, Plant Hwyaden has already achieved menu expansion for Landers using Menu Cheat (one of their special techniques); that’s why Mizufa, Jered Gan, and Roreil can be listed as members of Plant Hwyaden when it should technically be impossible. EXP gain/power leveling is obviously brought up in-story, with PH using much less ethical methods of doing it. Revival is the only thing they still can’t acquire for Landers.