#ryu sunghoon

[mare-sanguis]

why is no one talking about the self harm scene in the lastest episode? i know there are a lot more interesting scenes/moments and its also difficult to digest but i personally think it shows how fucked up and disturbed sunghoon is. and i really dont think it's just a random scene to makes us feel sorry for him- i genuinely feel like its important for later moments, even just a little bit

[luvxkdrama]

— 박지빈 as Jung In Seong [blind kdrama]

[astarlightmonbebe]

blind, eps. 5-6: what we know

this is not so much a comprehensive list as it is a stream of consciousness and my own inter spliced theories as i try to make sense of what’s been going on. hope this helps summarize things, or at least organize your mind as much as it did mine. obviously, if you haven’t watched the recent eps of blind, maybe don’t read on.

(disclaimer: this was not proofread. also if i say the same thing multiple times, i’m sorry.)

WHO’S WHO

- the story starts at hope welfare center with five boys: boy 7, boy 11, boy 12, boy 13, and boy 24

- boy 13 is confirmed to be jung yoonjae, who was confirmed to be sungjoon; however, sungjoon has no memories of hope welfare center (whether that’s because of trauma or a mix of that and his head injury from falling from the walkway in episode one idk)

- yoonjae/sungjoon had an older sister named yoonjung who likely was assaulted or killed by chief yeom (sungjoon knows she’s dead ? because of the necklaces, but not the rest of it idk)

- boy 11 was close to the jung siblings (photo; he also promised yoonjung to protect yoonjae, and had her necklace, which he gave to yoonjae after crazy dog took his)

- boy 11 and boy 12 seem to be actual biological brothers as seen in episode one when boy 11 tells boy 12 to ‘go to mom’ before he goes back for yoonjae

- boy 12 gets caught in a bear trap of sorts. we don’t know if he gets captured or makes it out alive

- boy 24 is the one who gets hit by the car and run over and presumably dies, though knowing this drama he could actually be alive who knows!

- boy 7 is the one who spills their escape plan to crazy dog/mr. baek; he’s also the one with the burn scar and the one who makes it to the road with boy 24

- boy 7 is confirmed to be one of the jurors based on choi soongil’s words, and as of ep 6 this is tentatively said to be an taeho because of his limp (which like. was obvious since ep 1, but also people were speculating he was actually the one who got stuck in the bear trap because of his limp, so idk)

- boy 11 is also the one who makes it to the hospital and is brought back by chief yeom (and says something like ‘i’ll kill you all’)

- choi soongil worked as a security officer at hope welfare center under mr. baek

- chief yeom was the local head of police and was in on it with mr. baek

- yeom hyejin was his daughter, baek jieun was mr. baek’s daughter, and both of them were murdered, presumably by the same person (the joker killer), although choi soongil possibly had some connection with hyejin’s death

- the person who approaches hyejin’s son minho gives him a bag with the drinks and food chief yeom gave to boy 11 (the banana milk or whatever and red bean paste buns)

- kang youngki, one of the jurors, also has a daughter who is getting married and likely will get murdered soon, so he probably has a connection to hope welfare center as well

- eunki’s mom seems to have been some sort of healthcare center at the center back when it was operating, and mr. baek had a reason to suspect she might know who yoonjae is or where he currently is

- detective kang is not only batting for chief yeom, but also for mr. baek, so he might have possibly been a kid at hope welfare center as well, but i don’t think he’s one of the five

- sungjoon is confirmed to be adopted, but it hasn’t been confirmed in sunghoon is adopted or not. based on episode 6 and sungjoon’s surprise that he was calling for his brother in his nightmare/memory, he has no knowledge of the fact that he and sunghoon might have had an abnormal past or something, which is definitely suspicious!

- his adoptive parents, na gukhee and ryu ilho, recognize mr. baek and know of sungjoon’s past with him (to what extent, i don’t know); looks like we’ll find out more about this in episode 7 based on the preview

THE MURDERS

- as of episode six, the body count is as follows: baek jieun, yeom hyejin, jung manchun, jung manchun’s wife, and jung manchun’s son (wonwoong)

- also mr. baek’s wife, but that was an on screen murder, so no questions about who killed her

- + yoonjung, but she hasn’t been actually confirmed dead yet (no on screen body or bones)

- sungjoon has been implicated in the murders due to jung manchun’s testimony and the fact that the killer has been using his real name (jung yoonjae)

- he had yeom hyejin’s fingernail, but has been absolved of that crime due to the fact that his dna wasn’t on her actual nail

- there was the whole situation about baek jieun’s earring being in his car with the bloodstains, but like the medical examiner said, he’s not as smart as sunghoon, but he’s not an idiot + he would definitely have cleaned his car i don’t know about you guys

- baek jieun and yeom hyejin are killed by the joker murderer, and have those gruesome smiles carved onto their faces

- jung manchun and his family are supposedly killed by the same person to cover their tracks, but not using the same method, making it clear that jieun and hyejin were the intended targets (and cementing the killer’s connection to hope welfare center)

- who pushed jung manchun off the roof is a mystery, but based on sungjoon’s testimony, his wife was already stabbed and wonwoong was already dead when he entered, although he successfully resuscitated wonwoong. however, wonwoong dies in between the time he flees and police reach the scene, wherein dt. kang is the only one there, unless the killer didn’t leave the scene to begin with

- the killer has wood carvings in his (their, whatever) little hideout

- for yeom hyejin, she was either assaulted or murdered by choi soongil, another juror with a connection to hope welfare center, as previously stated; however, unless he committed a copycat murder, it might have been a situation like with yuna, where she seemed to be dead, but wasn’t actually, and the real killer found her later

THE JURORS

- yeom hyejin, daughter of chief yeom and single mother, murdered by the joker killer

- choi soongil, a taxi driver who used to work as an enforcer at hope welfare center; has a tattoo that matches mr. baek’s

- choi soongil recognized boy 7 as one of the jurors, and is trying/has tried to coerce money from him; he’s currently injured/in critical condition due to being brained by (presumably) boy 7

- jo eunki, social worker; was held hostage by jung manchun during the time yeom hyejin was being murdered, and is now harboring sungjoon (who is currently a fugitive)

- charles, who owns a sushi restaurant and is, uh, according to his own words very skilled with a knife. comes across as amiable and friendly

- bae chulho, works as a pd, kind of sleazy, and was definitely looking at yeom hyejin during their first dinner together. either suspicious or, like i said, just a sleazy guy

- kang youngki, retired. we talked about his daughter earlier. probably not as clean cut as he seems, all things considered

- kwon kyungja, a very famous shaman. is constantly cold (due to her shamanic abilities). had an extreme reaction when she accepted sungjoon’s business card, including some sort of possession.

- an taeho, walks with a limp and didn’t want to be included in any group activities following the funeral. doesn’t like having his photo taken, and generally comes across as unfriendly. as of episode six, sungjoon believes him to be ‘the killer’ i.e. boy 7, who attacked choi soongil, based on the killer’s gait

- jung inseong, an engineer (?), who is very quiet and friendly, overly courteous and chivalrous at times, and seems the most kind hearted/open minded after eunki. does seem overly interested in eunki to a fashion. sorry i just find him suspicious.

- the woman sungjoon calls ‘mom’ owns a restaurant called ‘inseong’s place,’ so i’m also just leaving this here because i find it too weird of a coincidence

MY THEORY

okay buckle up i’m going to summarize my thoughts and talk about who i think the killer is. my money right now is on boy 12, the one biologically related to boy 11. i think that boy 11 could be sunghoon, and that he and yoonjae (sungjoon/boy 13), escaped together, but believed the other boys to be dead (and obviously sungjoon forgot everything). they ended up adopted by na gukhee and ryu ilho OR (and i lean towards this theory) sunghoon is the biological child, and he and his brother (boy 12) ended up at hope welfare center for some reason or another (though this is where the theory falls apart). therefore, when sunghoon reunited with his parents, they took in yoonjae as well, believing boy 12 to be dead (and like. he could be. what was his fate after getting stuck in the bear trap? was he able to escape on his own?). that way, yoonjae/sungjoon would have ended up taking on the identity of the real ryu sungjoon, which could be why the killer uses his name (jung yoonjae) to kill.

there’s also the fact of sungjoon being framed as the murderer of baek jieun (and here we focus on the theory that he was framed and is not the killer because i like to believe the best and it has a solid backing as of right now), and the killer using wood carvings, like we see sunghoon doing in episode 1/2. not only is the killer deliberately making them doubt each other (if the killer isn’t sunghoon, as it could very well be), but it’s also a way to get revenge on both of them, for sunghoon for abandoning him/giving him up and replacing him with yoonjae, and yoonjae for taking his place/forgetting everything/etcetera. this holds up whether or not boy 12 and boy 11 are biologically related to the ryu brothers’ current parents or not.

right now, i’m putting my money on boy 12 being inseong. not only because he seemed to recognize an taeho, but also because he’s the right age, and he’s very private, as well as being on the jury, so he had access to a lot of information about the cases and so on. build wise, i don’t know how capable he would be of subduing and murdering someone, but i’m just saying - don’t trust the nice guys in shows like these. his interactions with other members of the jury, like eunki, also make me kind of side eye him, as well as the fact that he seems less inclined to fully believe sungjoon is the killer - he’s definitely moving with a hidden agenda. whether it’s one with malicious intent or not, things are not clear beyond the surface level.

but whether or not boy 12 is inseong, i still think boy 12 could be our joker killer.

THE END

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[s4pphoiduser]

everyone stop judging a man (ryu sunghoon) by the crimes he may or may not have committed

[mare-sanguis]

i think thats the perfect opportunity for me to drop something more about sunghoon as a character.

cw, tw // brief mention of that self harm bathroom scene in ep. 10 in the 2nd part of this post

sunghoon is rather destructive with himself as well. while sungjoon is destructive in a very obvious way (picks fights, likes to defy law while being a detective) sunghoon destroys himself from the inside. he keeps his feelings hidden, he puts up with his parents moods- with a smile even though on the inside hes crying as well. crying for the friends hes lost. crying, because of who his mother is and crying because he also just wished to have a normal family. he lives for the law, he preaches it but then again just gives sungjoon a slap on the wrist when ever be does something stupid. sunghoon hates when others touch his brother (ep. 9 when dt. kang arrests him) or when others look down on him (ep. 8 when dt. kang bad mouths him, sunghoon was ready to throw hands it was pretty visible in his eyes even if just for a few seconds). in ep. 9 when he tells his parents why he called the cops he named sungjoon first, then himself- you'd usually not do that when you hate the other person, especially not of you're so "self absorbed" "cold" and "ruthless". he cares about sungjoon, he actually cares more about him then about himself. despite the fandoms popular belief of him being cold, he isnt.

actually, his type of trauma response is pretty dangerous and a lot of times it gets overshadowed by the "typical type of depression we all know about". while this type of trauma response slowly gains attention its still rare. its resentment, anger and a lot of pain- not exactly against others but against himself but in a reclusive type of way. he hates his past, what happened back then. the scene of him running to the bathroom after putting his brother to bed genuinely fes like some type of "dissociation" or "trip" . the camera movements where shaky, the music was louder, the short glance into the mirror, the heavy breathing, the over the shoulder shot- it as if he was detached from his body. this is how i feel like when i go into my dissociative phases and are about to hurt myself because i resent myself and all the stress i've put myself through. this wasnt sh solely based on pain, it was pure anger. he rather wanted to hurt himself than others. and, looking back at the scene in ep. 7 when we saw him cleaning his wound, it wasn't the first time. mans got so much to unpack but he never had the chance to because he was supposed to play the picture perfect role model for his brother and the trophy of his parents.

i could go on and on about him because, as far as trauma goes and response to it, i do feel strangely connected to him

[mare-sanguis]

idk about any of you but i love sunghoon. genuinely dont understand why people hate him /so much/- shows how they dont understand mysterious/dark characters. yes he might be cold towards sungjoon but do we know the reason? is it to shield SJ? does SH really hates him? so far, we know nothing what's going on in the mans head and its about time we find out. despite all the coldness he's shown, he cried at the end of ep. 7- an indicator he does care, or at least is capable of emotions other than cold harsh facts and rudeness. i could probably write so much more about him but who would even read it.

pls if anyone is interested in me dissecting him for what ever reasons say something

[mare-sanguis]

i really do think that yoonjae has the mindset of a child/teen. i've already done an in depth analysis on his body language and explained why he isnt a psychopath but i need to address it again that with all the informationa we've now its clear as day that hes the way he is because of his trauma

and throughout the show we've seen multiple different types of how trauma manifests in people:

1. ahn taeho: scared

2. boy number 45: handicapped

3. sunghoon: filled with rage

and yoonjae would be "permanent adolescence" (or, if we go further, say hes intellectual disabled-> issues in adaptive behavior)

it got pretty clear again in ep.15 when he sat in front of sunghoon at the holding cell and acted all childish- when SH told him he doesnt see him as a human, his eyes shoot up like those of a kid whos being hurt.

cant stand the show for painting him as a psychopath when his mannerism is so child-like.

[mare-sanguis]

Alright we should bring back the scene at the end of episode 7 after Hana's killing. I know a lot are still stuck up on it but we actively dont talk about it as much as it should be talked about. Like we assume Sunghoon killed or tried to safe her by the looks of it, how the scenes are shot and how well it fits but now that we know he actively self harms i'm 99,9% sure he had an episode there as well, triggered by something/someone he saw. We only see his left arm, the arm he choses when he hurts himself, the other arm is clean. If he had cleaned his other arm at that moment, there would be stains on the sink. The blood runs down his arm like it'd run down if there would be a single deep cut (the cut he received earlier that episode by the knife attack?). Its not splatteded the way it would be if he stabbed someone. If he had killed Hana or tried to safe her, the placement of the blood could be palm/back of hand only, with few drops on the arms- yes both of them unless hes superhuman and can kill/safe with one arm only. He is in visible distress.

In this essay i will once again cry about Sunghoon