#s10 sam

[momomarjijo]

the arguments about soulless sam vs demon dean are hilarious

my bro, normal sam, exhausted, sleep-deprived, malnourished, and wearing a sling, managed to catch demon dean. What do you think i imagine?

[yaelstiel]

Yes, Sam did scare the sh*t out of me in that sneak peak but since when does torturing a demon count as being a monster?

Oh, I don't think /this/ is what they were talking about. 

also, Sam was always the one not torturing, so for him it's a step downhill, you know? But I really think there is more. 

I recall Jared saying in comic-con that Sam will do questionable things, as a human, to other human beings.

I am scared, honestly oh god. 

[yaelstiel]

One of the reasons that I am a Sam!girl is because Sams morals match my own (help people, be kind, think before you act) and the idea that Sam could be considered a 'monster' in the next season scares me because of that. I know that I will keep loving Sam but still. It is hard to see him do questionable things. But I know he has his reasons for doing so and that he will learn from it. I'll just have to wait and see (although I can barely wait for the next season :D

It's always hard to see people we love choosing the wrong way. Real life friends or fictional characters, but that's what makes them so human, you know? 

I mean, Sam is a wonderful human being, he grew so much, he is constantly learning and changing and growing, but he never knew how to deal with Dean's death, and boy, this man had to go through this SO MANY TIMES. 

It crushes him, like a human being, sometimes, when facing this sort of thing, people can lose themselves and ignore what they believe in, because they can't accept the truth. 

I both love it and scared, I love it, because for once, there won't be 'the right brother and the wrong brother', they will both be wrong, and as Carver said, 'the boys will focus on healing each other, and healing their relationship' and for that equality, I'll take moral ambiguous Sam. I'll take demon!Dean, hell, I'll take everything for them to be finally equals in their eyes , fot them to help each other , not one brother saving the other, but each of them saving the other. And, healing their relationship. 

This season going to be amazing in terms of growth and change and I can't wait. 

[yaelstiel]

But if Sam is that devastated about Dean's disappearance can you imagine how he will feel once he finds out that Dean is a demon now? Oh Sammy... It's gonna hurt like hell to see him like that :(

I’m sure he will be devastated, but I am also sure that when he’ll discover Dean is a demon now, it will only make him more determined to fix this. Sam knows that this is worse than death for Dean, and if he has any doubt, we got Dean telling him ‘it’s better this way, the mark… it’s making me into something I don’t want to be’ 

So all included, this is going to give us a very pissed of, ruthless Sam if you ask me. it's exciting but terrifying as well. Because Sam's moral compass is swirling when it's about saving Dean, we've seen in in 'Faith', and in S3 I don't remember when, where he is willing to take other people orgens to save Dean, and I guess we are going that direction... 

It is going to hurt to see him so lost and so devastated and doing morally questionable things :( 

But he'll grow from it, as he always does. He will learn and grow. 

[yaelstiel]

right like how cas basically never has anyone by his side story after story? esp s9, when he needed them the most yet they kicked him out.. and then this season, it seems like he is DYING and yet no one is by his side. but yes lets focus on sam being "alone" at least he is alive and you know, not dying.

Hey Nonny, I see you are very sad for Cas, and I get you, I've been talking a lot on how his story is really sad as well, how he is trying so hard to know what to do, what is right and what is wrong, and he barely has any guidance. 

I am sure his story is heartbreaking as well. 

I just don't see how, if I am sad and heartbroken for Sam, it means I am not for Cas as well? 

You are more than welcome to talk to me about Cas and why you feel so sad for him, but I don't think it's a competition between Cas and Sam who is more alone or who has it harder. it just doesn't work like that. 

<3 

[yaelstiel]

laoih replied to your photoset:Jared Padalecki TCA 2014  (x) This makes me sad...

Yeah… Mystery Spot all over again, even though he could have had Bobby there, but didn’t want to… :(

Yes, like, I have some comfort because he is MUCH SMARTER now, but this also can be scarier, becaue he KNOWS so much. 

[yaelstiel]

I have two major problems with Carver's "who will be the real monster" 1st, if Sam really does go dark, how stupid does that make him? But 2nd, and more importantly, Jared spoke as if this somehow finally "proves" Sam's love, yet Dean is pissed at him for whatever he does. If Sam hasn't "proven" his love to Dean by now - he never will! Nothing Sam ever does is good enough for Dean, and it doesn't seem to be changing.

Hey :) I'll try to help here. 

 if Sam really does go dark, how stupid does that make him?

I don't think it makes him stupid at all, if my sister's body was to disappear, and lately I'll find out she had change into something she was always scared of turning into, I'd do everything in my power to get her back, no matter the personal consequences, and I see our bond as healthy. So I expect from Sam to lose his shit over this and do everything. what does go dark means? I think Carver is trying to tease us. I still stay with my former thought, that the moral questionable things he'll do, will be toward demons. I can also see him interrogating humans in every way possible, to get information about Dean, but in no way do I see him stupid, he has learned, he will go back and make mistakes like a grown human being, and will learn again. the fact that he has grown does not prevent him from making wrong choices again, and learn, another lesson or the same one, again. 

Jared spoke as if this somehow finally "proves" Sam's love,

I think this is about Dean's POV, for Dean, ever since 'I wouldn't', he thought Sam doesn't love him. of course we, and Sam (and since the finale I assume Dean too) knows Sam loves Dean, but Dean needs Sam to try and save him, in order to understand , inside, that Sam really loves him. 

...yet Dean is pissed at him for whatever he does. If Sam hasn't "proven" his love to Dean by now - he never will! Nothing Sam ever does is good enough for Dean, and it doesn't seem to be changing.

I don't think this is about Sam, it's about Dean and his inability to accept love with all the form it can be shown and proven. He doesn't think he is worthy of love, so he tries to find other reasons for the actions of the people who loves him. It will take Dean time to realize all Sam has ever done for him was out of love. 

I don't think it is something Sam needs to do, but rather something Dean needs to understand, and I think S10 hold inside a character development for Dean, realizing he wasn't poison, he wasn't monster, and hence is worthy of love, so after that he will be able to see the love Sam is always showing him. 

[yaelstiel]

What do you think the extremes Sam will go that would make us question who the real monster is going to be?

Hey friend :) 

I think that Carver worded it that way, to give the fans some more excitement and anticipation... 

But thinking about it, I think he will be ruthless and very dangerous toward everyone he thinks has something to do with Dean's disappearance (first) and then with Dean becoming a demon. Sam can be terrifying when he is angry, and he is most angry when Dean is taken from him brutally like that (as we've seen in Mistry Spot) 

I can see him not taking good care of himself, sleepless nights, hunting clues and torturing demons.

And while Sam can be ruthless, and as we know, Dean is still Dean, even as a demon, I think we should expect internal struggle inside Dean at some point, while Sam won't stop at anything until he'll bring Dean back.

But mainly, I was scared if I was a demon, or Metatron. I think Sam's anger will be toward them...

What do you think?