started watching some beast wars and realized: zug’s voice in salty’s lighthouse is just scott mcneil’s rattrap voice without the brooklyn accent
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started watching some beast wars and realized: zug’s voice in salty’s lighthouse is just scott mcneil’s rattrap voice without the brooklyn accent
Zero tugs! Pipe down and
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Woah, you’re back!
Hey, uh, would you mind answering a question I have about Salty’s Lighthouse?
So, I looked up the show and noticed that someone had uploaded the TUGS segments to YouTube-with titles that weren’t just the titles of the episode the segment appeared in.
And then, confusingly, I found that different places on the Internet had different titles for the SAME TUGS segments.
I heard that the segments’ titles were given in episodes’ credits, but I checked the credits and couldn’t find them, so…. where did these segment names come from? Are any of them official, or were they all just made up by fans?
Sorry if this ask is a bit long.
the titles for the tugs’ segments seem to be fan-made! i took a look at the credits of a full episode to verify, and the tugs segments are just listed as “boat segment(s)” rather than having titles of their own, and wikipedia doesn’t list any titles solely for the tugs segments
I had another hilarious thought: The “every single piece of weirdness and nonsense is 100% cannon” aspect of my SL idea includes the fact that the lighthouse is within a binocular view of Snugboat Harbor.
Let’s say one day, Salty and his friends decide to leave the lighthouse and take a walk to said harbor.
Shenanigans and craziness will ensue.
imagine being a tug trying to go about your work life and learning that this random kid has been spying on your day-to-day life and using it as a template for important life lessons. what do you even do in that situation. you want to take it up with this kid’s parents but then you find out that his parents aren’t even supervising him when he’s spying on you, they’re just letting their kid (who can’t be much older than ten years old) play in an empty lighthouse by himself all day.
(and i say “by himself” because the animal characters are heavily implied to be toys in the show’s intro. jury’s still out on if aurora is real though)
^ (i’ve been busy with irl stuff but when i have the time, i’m editing this poster into salty and see-more/seymour/however you spell the binoculars’ name)
Another crazy idea I had in relation to the "Salty spying on the tugs" thing:
When I was little, I would write horrifically bad (like, I could fill ten posts with tales of my nonsensical writing decisions) fanfiction in my binder at school. The age range you gave for Salty puts his maximum possible age ABOVE the age I was when I started doing that.
Imagine: Salty doesn't just spy on the tugs, he also writes FANFIC of them. Incredibly incoherent fanfic, that he proudly shows to them when they finally meet.
oh man, that makes a scary amount of sense for all the weird visual/writing inconsistencies, the characterization choices, and the awkward narration struggling to make the tugs segments into a coherent story from out-of-context recycled footage.
(admittedly i kinda misspoke when i suggested that salty is ten, i only based that off the age his voice actor was when the show was airing. if i had to guess, he’s probably younger than that— which again, tracks w the wacky writing choices)
alright here’s the birthday party episode analysis. keep in mind that this is all a matter of personal opinion/speculation
for those of you who don’t want to watch the episode:
the episode begins with ten cents and sunshine discussing a surprise birthday party for otis. sunshine is very insistent on keeping the party a surprise, and ten cents promises to help her keep it a secret until it’s time for the party. sunshine invites sally and zorran (and the zero fleet) and further reiterates that the party is a surprise. the episode then cuts to ten cents and otis, who is suspicious that everyone is “acting strange”. ten cents continues to keep the secret and make excuses to throw otis off his trail.
from there, top hat asks for ten cents’ attention, and ten cents accidentally lets it slip that he can’t talk to top hat right now, he’ll see him later at the party. otis immediately catches on, to which ten cents tries to cover by saying he was going to see top hat at “pier t”. otis and top hat are not impressed in the least (or even happy to hear that there’s a party), and top hat says ten cents has spoiled the surprise and immediately departs the scene to go to tell sunshine. otis outright tells ten cents that he ruined the party because it’s not a surprise anymore. ten cents apologizes to otis and promises they’ll still have the party, but otis’ engine breaks down.
sunshine shows up to the scene and is very upset with (a very remorseful) ten cents, who even says that he hates himself for spoiling the surprise. the switchers then go to captain starr to try and resolve the issue, arguing all the while as ten cents insists that he didn’t spoil the party on purpose. sunshine is still insistent that it had to be a surprise, and they may as well cancel the party. otis has seemingly calmed down and says they can just throw a surprise party another time, but sunshine still insists on blaming ten cents for not being able to keep a secret. from there we get the “what do you want me to do, sink myself?/not a bad idea!” exchange.
otis complains about listening to the switchers argue before captain star shows up to ask what’s going on. otis and sunshine explain the situation, and captain star immediately asks ten cents if he apologized. ten cents explains that he did apologize— multiple times. captain star then says that it was for the best, because now she can give otis a new engine for his birthday. she then asks sunshine to forgive ten cents, and sunshine forgives him. ten cents thanks her for forgiving him and promises to do better next time. the switchers taking otis to dry dock for repairs, with otis saying that he hates to miss a party— especially his own. the episode ends with a parade (using footage from “regatta”). otis gives a speech about how disappointed he was that his surprise was ruined, but it didn’t matter— because the real surprise was what they did for his birthday party and his friends being there.
why is this episode so uncomfortable (to me, anyway)?
i think the primary factor is that the episode completely bungles the inciting incident by having ten cents spoiling the surprise come across as a complete accident. i could understand what the episode was going for if it opened with him saying something like “i don’t see why we need to keep this a surprise, because we’ll have the party either way” and dismissing how important this is to sunshine and otis, but he doesn’t say anything like that. in the scenes leading up to it, he seemingly was trying to keep suspicion off of the party, and even tried to cover for himself after he spoiled it. he talks about how sorry he is and how “next time (he’ll) do better”, but honestly i don’t think ten cents did anything wrong in this episode— or at the very least, he didn’t do anything bad enough to warrant such a weirdly severe reaction from sunshine and otis.
there’s also the fact that salty’s lighthouse!ten cents is seemingly(?) written as a child? or at the very least, he’s one of the youngest tugs on the fleet. meanwhile, top hat and otis are characters who are written as full-grown adults even within this series, and they barely do anything to try and diffuse the switchers’ argument or make ten cents feel better when he clearly blames himself for ruining the surprise— if anything, they actively choose to make him feel worse about it! otis doesn’t even have anything to say about the “sink myself” remark, he just complains about “having to listen to (the switchers) argue”. and when otis and sunshine finally forgive ten cents, it’s seemingly only because captain star told them to— even then, they can’t resist lamenting how the surprise party was ruined in otis’ speech at the end.
this episode also heavily uses footage from “quarantine” of the original tugs, meaning that the characters look upset/disgruntled for the vast majority of the episode up until the very end. that isn’t entirely relevant though, because this episode would still come across as weirdly mean-spirited no matter what footage they used.
and i think that’s the crux of the issue; this episode wouldn’t be half as uncomfortable to me if salty’s lighthouse didn’t have such a sugary, heavily-sanitized writing style. in most episodes of the show to have an argument between characters, it usually ends with all parties apologizing to each other and making up— but that doesn’t happen here, so it just comes across as almost 6 minutes of ten cents being browbeaten into apologizing for an honest mistake and none of the other characters apologizing for how they treated him. even captain star seems to be on sunshine’s side— when sunshine tells her that ten cents ruined the surprise, she sounds pretty stern when she asks ten cents if he apologized.
anyway, salty’s lighthouse!ten cents did nothing wrong in this episode and that’s a comically-small hill i’m willing to die on. i wouldn’t necessarily call this a worse episode than the one where zorran raps, the whole episode of vegetable puns, or the one where zorran sings the abcs while stuck on a rock, but i think this episode is an uncomfortable watch in a very different way than most episodes of salty’s lighthouse and that’s why it morbidly fascinates me.
I was looking through your old posts and I had a cursed idea: The tugs somehow end up in your the Salty’s Lighthouse universe and meet their counterparts, BUT
Every weird scene and continuity error is an actual event. In the SL world, it can go from broad daylight to stormy to sunset to foggy and back to broad daylight in the span of two minutes and none of the inhabitants bat an eye. SL!Sunshine changes liveries at random whenever no one’s looking at her. The SL boats really do see out of their running lights and only have their eyes for decorative purposes. SL!Zip and Zug can’t be let within fifty feet of a fire barge or disaster will ensue. Zorran raps. And so on.
this is hysterical, i love it.
adding onto this:
Sorry if I'm bothering you, but I thought of another Salty's Lighthouse absurdity I've just got to tell you about.
So, somehow, Salty's Lighthouse got a few promotional kids' meal toys put out at Dairy Queen. These toys included exactly one (1) tugboat, and you won't believe which one.
I'd like to invite you to guess who it is. Just guess. I mean, you'll be wrong, but still. Guess.
(you don’t need to worry about bothering me, i love learning about salty’s lighthouse absurdities!)
uhh off the top of my head: big stack/big mac, bc if he inexplicably got made into one of those goofy ride attractions then anything is possible