samjaza said: Hi btw just to clarify, I’m on your side. I totally get what you’re saying. I may have misunderstood the meaning of queerbaiting (my understanding being anything that hints at being queer without it being outright and canonically queer). What I’m doing is I’m looking at it from their perspective and seeing that god awful scene as the perfect ammo for the hellers to say that the show did queerbait.
yo, it’s ok. sorry, i def came off aggressive too i’ve been on edge all day lol and i didn’t mean to be like... mean to someone who was just responding in kind and not starting a fight
but yeah... no.. that’s not what queerbaiting means. queerbaiting is to constantly tease a lgbt+ ship to happen in that ‘’will they/won’t they’’ nudge nudge wink, ‘’stay tuned to find out!!!’’ kinda way where the writers or actors are deliberately egging fans on the possibility of a potential relationship being explicitly depicted with no intention to follow through. hence, it does not apply to spn, since the writers have never done that or teased the potential of destiel in any way, and again, jensen has made it extremely clear it will never happen. partly to keep in the context of the show being about the fundamental relationship between the 2 brothers, and also partly cos he just frankly hates it and he will never film anything remotely destiel
hellers’ perspective of this has been warped from day one, there is no saving that. they’ve been saying they have been queerbaited since the beginning but like i said, that simply isn’t true. they have moved on to celebrating this scene as a ‘’victory’’ for their ship ‘’going canon’’ instead of realising neither of this is true of course and have actually taken the biggest L after 11 years of absolutely nothing. it’s only perfect ammo for them to say they’ve won at last. win what, i don’t know, cos it doesn’t exist. but idc about them and they can remain deluded for all they want lmao
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taliawinters said: Also ALSO how is it queerbaiting when Dean and Castiel have literally not have had important scenes together since, what, season 10?????
oh man, now that u’ve mentioned it, i honestly have no idea when their last proper good scene was even? i have no memory of them in s10. though come on u do know hellers will claim s15 was the epitome of romance after dean told cas to fuck off to hell, had a falling out after yelling at him over their mother and rowena, and then a very ooc apology scene for what i’m still unsure about. just like they think jensen standing there and staring back completely disinterested is also the height of destiel romance cos they don’t want to admit to themselves that he specifically said dean and cas having lesser scenes together made him happy since he’s over that shit











