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Would you say there is any evidence in the myths that Kronos ever had some level of caring for his children?

Depends on what myths we're talking about but not really? Certainly not for them as a collective.

For starters, Kronos has no relationship to speak of with the majority of his offspring (Hestia, Demeter, Hades, Poseidon, and the son or sons of Philyra) in extant classical mythology. In the traditional account (I think Hesiod's Theogony qualifies as the standard here) he eats his children by Rhea (except Zeus) the moment they are born - „as each came forth from the womb to his mother's knees”, as Hesiod puts it. No time to grow fond of any of them, even if he were predisposed towards fatherly behavior... which seems unlikely given... everything. Nor are there any sources that show him hesitant or remorseful when it comes to his treatment of his children, and it is not as if the ancient Greeks couldn't imagine a conflicted Parent who ultimately sacrifices the life of their child/children despite their love for them. . Kronos is just not that kind of figure in classical mythology, any more than Ouranos is. His narrative role is quite straightforward in this tale.

To be sure, there is the occasional account in which he only eats or otherwise imprisons his male progeny, since only his sons are considered a threat in those instances. Even then, we know nothing about his feelings or attitude towards the children he had allowed to remain free, and it is also difficult to extrapolate much from the attitude of the children towards him: only Pseudo-Hyginus provides us with anything useful on the subject and we get one story (Fabula 139) in which Hera helps save baby Zeus from their father thus ensuring that what Kronos fears will come to pass, and another in which she gets so angry with Zeus and his illegitimate son that she wants Kronos and the Titans back in power (Fabula 150). We do also have a separate account (Schol. b ad Il. 2.783) in which Hera complains about Zeus to Kronos and the latter assists her in the creation of an adversary for Zeus (Typhon)… only for her to change her mind and reveal everything to Zeus in the end. Kronos' motivation is not made explicit, but I guess the most plausible one is that he wants to take revenge on his son. Does he care for Hera at all or is she just a convenient ally? I can't say, but I think one can interpret this any way they like, given the lack of details.

Then there are the accounts in which Zeus releases him from his bonds and has him rule over the Isles of the Blessed, not that this tells us anything about what Kronos himself thinks about him. Pindar (Olympian 2)has Zeus's son Rhadamanthys enthroned beside Kronos though, so who knows what is going on here? What is clear in this tradition is the son showing goodwill towards the father, not necessarily vice versa, although it seems reasonable to imagine Kronos coming to terms with his situation and showing himself trustworthy enough for such a decision to seem wise to Zeus. Unfortunately there is no indication of whether the other sons and daughters of Kronos were consulted beforehand or what they thought about the change. Again this doesn't help us get insight into Kronos as parent.

If we bring rationalizations into this, things aren't much better in regards to Kronos as father. Sometimes (E.G.: Diodorus Siculus, Library of History 3.61.4, 5.70.1) Zeus is said to have succeeded his father lawfully, not by violence. But the prevalent tradition remains the one where things are less peaceful: either Kronos gets rid of his children himself as usual (Library of History 5.70.2), or he agrees to let his newborn sons get murdered by the Titans at the request of his brother (Sibylline Oracles 3.130-184, Lactantius' Divine Institutes 14.1-12). It is Rhea alone who makes efforts to save their children's lives in this last version as well. In the account cited by Lactantius, Saturn himself tries to have Jupiter killed after the latter, now grown up, had saved him and Ops when the Titans imprisoned them (having learned that some of their male children survived) and had even restored him to power before returning to Crete. Ungrateful much? In the account from the Sibylline Oracles it's all the three sons saved by Rhea who wage war on the Titans when they imprison their parents.

So if anything, the children of Kronos (particularly Zeus) show more consideration for him than he has ever shown for them. Honestly, the only account I know of in which Saturn acts somewhat like a caring parent dates from the Middle Ages (The First Vatican Mythographer, 211), where he initially brings Juno with him in exile but then decides to entrust her to the care of some nymphs in Africa so that she will not become fatigued by the journey. Although one might wonder what kind of father has a young girl join him in exile instead of remaining safely at home with her brothers and mother... But in comparison with his usual treatment of his kids this is shockingly wholesome. Too bad it is so late.

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The summer that Saturn died [Saturnus]

Actually, I haven't seen the anime, so if it doesn't make sense, oops, my apologies. I simply saw this scene and thought it would work well with Saturnus...

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