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Linguistic Games - A Non-Comprehensive List

Obsessed with games about languages? Played one and crave infinitely more? Fear not, for I am here with a small handful of recommendations that will perhaps tide you over for a little bit before you start going crazy again!

This is a humble list of some games about linguistics or languages (or anything adjacent) as a main feature that I, a translator by trade, have played or heard about. Hopefully this is useful for anyone that's looking for new linguistic experiences!

Games I've Played

These are games I've actively played to full or near-full completion. They've all been great too btw.

Heaven's Vault

Oh boy, where to even begin talking about this game. Heaven's Vault is a game in which every single choice you make matters... and there's no turning back! This game is made to be replayed, as tedious as it might be to do so, and the lack of savefiles does hurt it a bit if you're as impatient and curious as I am. However, the story is so gripping and the twists and turns are so captivating that you just wanna keep playing to know everything!!

The story is simple on the surface: you're an archaeologist traveling across space with a simple goal: find out both what's going on with your curious companion and what has the Nebula in such a tizzy.

The artstyle is amazing, the game feels good to play, characters will remember every decision you've made and react accordingly... You might even discover a route so far from what you originally set out to do, it may derail your entire ending!

The language mechanic itself is fun, and figuring out the symbols and how they build on each other is incredibly enrapturing! Sometimes a bad guess can send you hurtling down the wrong path, but that's just life!

All you really need to keep in mind about this game is that two routes will never be the same... but they might be heavily similar. Or not. As long as you are aware that this is a slow-paced game with plenty of replayabilty, you're in for a fun, mysterious experience of trying to fit the jagged edges of the puzzle pieces together. And the picture they form is absolutely worth it.

Platforms: Nintendo Switch, PlayStation4, PC (Steam)

Price: €21,99 (Steam, PlayStation Store), €15,99 (Nintendo eShop)

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Chants of Sennaar

Yeah, it's me again, Chants of Sennaar's #1 megafan. What about it.

CoS is perhaps my favorite game out of this whole bunch. You're basically dropped in a strange, unfamiliar place... and everyone speaks a language you don't understand! Through logic and experience, you'll uncover the meaning of all the words you've been hearing though the sunny lower floor of the tower... because of course, this is a tower!

Tongue-in-cheek Babel reference aside, you go through different societies, each with their own language reflecting it, in your efforts to reach the very top of the tower. The story is plural yet simple, with a central one revolving around your character and lots of small side stories that keen-eyed players will find a delight to uncover.

On the language side of things, well... Language is Sennaar is both a device to advance the story and a collectable of sorts. It is possible to finish the game with incomplete knowledge of all the languages, but filling your notebook with every single word is just so much FUN! Apart from that, many languages have certain patterns one might recognize - verbs or nouns or some words may be written in a specific way, which makes it easier to understand the meaning of some things.

I want to spoil this game as little as possible. This is a game that should really be experienced if possible, so this little overview probably feels somewhat lackluster... oh well! One thing that stressed me out BAD in this game -spoiler alert, I guess?- were the stealth sections (there's not that many, just two stressful ones near the beginning and at the very very end), but in retrospect they were not bad at all. Trial and error makes it all work, and to be fair this game is incredibly lenient when you get caught.

Also the ending's nuts and i've been rotating the main character in my head ever since i first played this. artsyle is so cool too. insane game please give it a chance.

Platforms: PS4, Nintendo Switch, PC (Steam), Xbox One

Price: €19,99

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Sethian

Alright this one is for the true linguistic nerds out there. This is NOT a puzzle game. The other two games so far had puzzle and adventure elements, but this one? You only get two fucking things: a diary that updates as you go... and a weird screen with even weirder symbols.

You wanted a language to decipher? Well here you go! Learn this language. Use it to ask questions. Get answers. So on and so forth.

Sethian's language is impossibly interesting. This language doesn't take its grammar, syntax or stuff like that from English. Oh no. As the creator stated, it "borrows elements from Chinese, American Sign Language, and other real world languages, in addition to some features which have no real world counterpart."

Also, just as a heads up, you're not gonna get the meaning of every single symbol or word. Sorry. But let's be real - that's just true to learning any new language. Some things are better left as a mystery!

Sethian is not very long, but if you're into this language stuff it's honestly an incredible experience. I wholeheartedly recommend it.

Platform: PC (Steam)

Price: €4,99

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Cypher

This game is relatively similar to Sethian language-wise, even if it's not nearly as complex. Premise is as follows: you're helping a stranded space traveler make their way out of the planet they crashed onto... by acting as a translator between them and his local companion!

It's very fun and the way the language works is quite interesting, but don't expect much length or depth. Honestly, this is an amazing free game you can play if you want to scratch the itch a bit! ...Even if it might leave you itching for more. Oh, well!

In case you're seeing this on PC, here's a link to the game's itch.io page. Have fun!

Platform: PC (itch.io)

Price: Whatever you want it to be!

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The Gostak

This is the one exception: I still haven't finished playing this game. In fact, at the time of writing, I just started. But this 2001 text adventure is an absolute masterpiece. Difficult as fuck, but a masterpiece nonetheless.

This game does not have convenient graphics or a handy way to keep track of what you've learned. What I'm doing is taking out my notebook and my multicolored pen and getting to WORK. You have to discover, parse or even guess the meaning or function of words based solely on their relations to OTHER unknown words that you uncover... by using the same words you know nothing about! You are the gostak. The gostak distims the doshes. From there, it's all on YOU to not only understand what's going on, but also complete this adventure... because it IS an adventure!

Your goal is unclear at the beginning, but as you unravel the language and begin to understand your surroundings, you'll see more and more of this world. As mentioned before, this is a text-only game, which can be a turnoff for some people. I, however, would say that the joy of figuring out words and the relationships between them without even knowing what they mean is simply amazing.

Here's the link to the game's website, so you can whip out your trusty word processor (or, if you're old school like me, your handy pen and paper) and go to town! May the gitches frike and the duscats glake!

Platform: PC (website)

Price: Free!

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Games I Have Not Played

Homicipher

Well. From what I know about this game, it's a threefold game: horror, language, and adventure all rolled into one!

The only reason I haven't played this game is because I despise horror games with all my heart. They make me extremely anxious and I just don't have a good time at all. Everything else about this game is screaming out to me - a developed language-learning/guessing system? A crazy point-and-click adventure with multiple endings and interesting character interactions?

I'd say that if you don't mind the whole horror side of things, you should absolutely give this a try. I'm afraid I can't say much else about this game!

Platform: PC (Steam)

Price: €13,79

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7 Days to End with You

All I know about this game is that you're given basically nothing to work with from the very beginning and that your interpretation of the language affects the story itself. Interesting concept!

A few reviews seem to imply this game is a bit divisive, but it's still on my to-play list. Maybe you, too, should give it a chance!

(If you're interested, maybe try and find a spoilerless review or a better summary... I'm sure there's much to be said about this game, but none of it will be found on this post!)

Platforms: Nintendo Switch, PC (Steam), Android (Play Store)

Price: €11,79 (eShop), €7,79/$7,99 (Steam), €5,49/$4,49 (Play Store)

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Honorable mentions

Tunic

This is just a soulslike! Maybe I'm just so bad at videogames I struggle to get past the beginning, but as far as I know I don't think the language is the main focus of the game. It is still a translatable, learnable language, tho!

Outer Wilds

Keeps the same feeling of "knowledge drives you forward" that Heaven's Vault and Chants of Sennar have, but as far as I know there's no language translation central to the game. I mean, there is, it's just automatic and you don't get to play with a new language. Amazing experience nonetheless! (I'm still yet to finish it...!)

Tork (Can you torque the talk?)

2004 flash game, but it is now sadly unplayable. It employed a language-learning system similar to Chants of Sennaar.

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Honorable honorable mentions

Rapid-fire list of non-language games that just scratched the same itch somehow.

Return to the Obra Dinn

Incredible notebook detective game about finding out what happened to the crew of a ship. Deductive reasoning takes the wheel here.

The Roottrees Are Dead

Another notebook detective game! This time, you're a private investigator in charge of filling out an extense family tree... and perhaps some surprises along the way!

Type Help

Rounding up the notebook detective genre, this one has you following the mysterious events that unfolded at a house party using only audio transcripts. Honestly, once it clicks, it clicks. Here's the itch.io link!

Sable

Low-stakes exploration with simple yet atmospheric graphics and a very interesting story to uncover!

Tales of the Neon Sea

An eclectic mix of noir, cyberpunk and pixel art that results in an unforgettable detective experience. Well-written characters, an amazing story, fun worldbuilding... I only wish it was longer!

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Well, that's all! If you play any of these games (or have already played them), please don't hesitate to let me know!!! I just adore these little linguistic gems :D Also, if you know any other games not mentioned in here, PLEASE tell me I'm getting desperate

Hope you enjoy these games! Much love <3

[thepringlesofblood]

Games I Have Seen People Compare To Return of the Obra Dinn, ranked

So. Many, many people love Return of the Obra Dinn (correct), and want to keep playing games like that bc it is a finite experience once the mystery is solved. Understandable. Same here.

I have seen a wide variety of games recommended, reviewed, rated, or remarked on as being "Obra Dinn-like" or "in the same vein" or "scratches the same itch".

Usually, this refers to a game with a mystery that includes note-taking and paperwork, with an empty framework of some kind that you have to fill out completely in order to solve it and win. But also some people will say anything.

So I made a list of all the ones I've heard of, along with short descriptions, and whether or not I think the comparison makes sense. I was going to do links for all of them but I fear tumblr will eat them, so I just linked the top tier ones.

Feel free to respond with more! I make no guarantees, but I might look into it, and at the very least people can do their own research on it. ^v^

disclaimer: I love Return of the Obra Dinn. It's a fantastic game, and it does a lot of other cool things that have nothing to do with the notebook-mystery element. The atmosphere? The art style? The sound design? The horrors of the ocean at war with the horrors of your fellow man? Fantastic stuff. These are not the things people are generally talking about when they make these comparisons though, so I will limit my rhapsodies to this. Also, obviously, whether a game is similar to or different then Return of the Obra Dinn is completely separate from whether it is a good game or not.

First: What is an "Obra-Dinn-like"?

I saw @miniaturegiantspacerat use the term "notebook mystery" once in a reply to a post, and I think it fits really well. It's a mystery game where you are gathering information, taking notes, putting together a pepe-sylvia-style conspiracy board of some kind, and/or filling out a form of some kind (for instance, a notebook). The main game loop is looking for clues, writing stuff down, looking for clues, writing stuff down, until the game confirms some of the things you wrote, and now you can use that info to figure more stuff out.

I also think there are lots of games out there that you can/need to take notes about, or that have in-game note-taking systems, and not all of them are "Obra-Dinn-like." We will call these "note-taking games" to distinguish them from "notebook mysteries" or "Obra-Dinn-likes."

Criteria for a notebook mystery:

"notebook" - there has to be a form, framework, or empty space that you are filling up. In Obra Dinn, it's your trusty journal, which you're filling up with names, pictures, & fates. In others, it doesn't have to be a literal notebook.

"mystery" - there has to be a central mystery you are solving. it doesn't have to be the same one all throughout, but there should always be a question that needs answering, up until the end. you can leave the story open-ended if you want to, but there should be a "completed" state of the game.

confirmation - at intervals, the game should confirm parts you've filled in. e.g. In Obra Dinn, every 3 fates you filled in correctly, it would confirm.

notes - it doesn't have to be in-game, but it should be the kind of game where you have to (or at least can) take notes about what's going on. I don't know where I'd be in my Obra Dinn playthrough if I didn't have my notes on what people look like and where they are and what they're doing.

vibes, aka The Feeling You Get While Playing The Game.

Here's the ranks

A tier - Yes, it is correct or fitting to compare this game to Return of the Obra Dinn, and I know because I've played it or watched a full playthrough

The Roottrees Are Dead - Note: the free-to-play original version uses some AI generated images, but they came out with a version on Steam that has full illustrations, a more detailed and streamlined UI, and additional content, for $20.

Chants of Sennaar - The aesthetic & vibes are wildly different, but the notebook mystery aspect is extremely similar, and it keeps the aspect of the player character being an outsider to the world while introducing other characters to interact with.

Type Help - Note: this is a purely text-based game. If that's not your thing, they are making a version with audio and visuals called "The Incident at Galley House", set to come out in 2026, but I will say that it being text-based is very much a feature, not a bug, and works perfectly for the type of mystery it entails.

Tacoma - admittedly, there's not much of a confirmation system, but its other characteristics similar to Obra Dinn more than make up for it. The vibes are off the chart - it's an empty ship that experienced a disaster where you uncover snippets of scenes of the crew going about their lives, where you play as a corporate employee assessing the aftermath. If that ain't Obra Dinn-like, idk what is.

A.5 tier - I haven't personally played it or watched a full playthrough, but I've researched it enough that I feel confident saying it's comparable to Return of the Obra Dinn

The Case of the Golden Idol - look, I straight up don't like this game, I watched one (1) video of the beginning and Gross, but it does have mystery-solving systems in place similar to Return of the Obra Dinn, and there is a bit of a vibe, partly in the art style and partly in the aspects of death.

B - Definitely at least a note-taking game, potentially a notebook mystery, uncertain if it's comparable to Return of the Obra Dinn

Her Story - putting together a story from fragments, there's a few vibes there, but I was unable to find information on any confirmation system.

Sethian - solving an unknown language (similar to Chants of Sennaar), but similar to above, couldn't tell if there was a confirmation system, or what the vibes were.

A Hand With Many Fingers - you're literally making a pepe-sylvia style conspiracy board about the CIA, perfect.

Book of Hours - I am 26 hours into this game as of writing this, and I can confidently say it is the most complicated thing I've ever played. you're a librarian slowly restoring a giant old library called the Hush House, uncovering room after room, unlocking books, learning skills, semi-befriending the townsfolk, and helping visitors find the books they need. It's not a notebook mystery because a notebook mystery generally has one big mystery you're trying to solve at a time, and Book of Hours has 8 billion mysteries of various sizes you're constantly trying to figure out, many of which are about mechanics and how the game works. It is certainly a note-taking game because of how many things you have to keep track of at once. Usually with games like these I find myself getting frustrated too easily and quitting, but something about it channels that frustration into righteous indignation and spite and I find myself wanting to prove that I can best it. sorry for getting off-topic, it's just a wildly different game than I thought it was going to be and I wanted to warn people.

C - I don't have detailed information, but looks promising

Unheard

Cypher

Strange Horticulture

Ghost Trick: Phantom Detective

D - I don't have detailed information, but looks significantly different

Heaven's Vault - more narrative-focused than Obra Dinn. "a dynamically constructed adventure game that responds to every move you make!" a very cool concept, probably an incredibly cool game! Incredibly different from Obra Dinn, where you solve a finite and pre-determined mystery.

Journey - this is just its own thing.

Sable - see above - open world RPGs are not Obra-Dinn-like.

Tunic - this looks like an action-adventure game that has some note-taking and mystery elements - they're not the main focus, though they are part of the world.

Tales of the Neon Sea

Misericorde - this is a visual novel

Uncle Chop’s Rocket Shop - I can see how you might think this was vaguely similar to Papers Please, a different game Lucas Pope made, but I have no idea why one would compare it to Obra Dinn

E - I don't have enough information to make a determination

Lorelei and the Laser Eyes

Blue Prince

The Forgotten City

No Case Should Remain Unsolved

corru.observer

Counterfeit Monkey

Rusty Lake: Roots

The Gostak

F - No.

Baba is You - I love Baba is You. It is in no way shape or form Obra-Dinn-like. There's puzzles but that's it.

Sky: Children of the Light - It’s an MMO (massive multiplayer online). That’s. Immediately very different. It is pretty and free (windows only) but like. no.

Inscryption - a genius, amazing game that you could definitely take notes about as you play it, but is not remotely Obra-Dinn-like, except perhaps occasionally in terms of Vibes and Atmosphere.

What Remains of Edith Finch - I love this game. It's not a notebook mystery or note-taking game. I can see why it's similar to "The Roottrees Are Dead", since it also involves uncovering a family tree, but there's no real guesswork involved. The story is revealed as you walk through an old house - as long as you get through the whole house (which isn't hard), the story is told. There is a notebook in game, but you don't actually take notes it in, it's more of a way of tracking your progress than a tool for figuring stuff out.

Honorable Mention: Event in a Place games

There are many games that are similar to Obra Dinn in the sense that you are exploring a Place where an Event has happened, and working through the aftermath or trying to figure out what the Event was. However, many are not notebook mysteries or note-taking games. It is technically correct to say they are "Obra Dinn-like" because they do share an important aspect with Return of the Obra Dinn, but it's not what most people mean when they say "Obra Dinn-like".

It's a Venn Diagram with notebook mysteries - The Roottrees are Dead is a notebook mystery, but not an Event in a Place game (EP), Tacoma is both, and What Remains Of Edith Finch is an EP but not a notebook mystery. I may make a separate post about it, idk yet. Anyway, here's some EPs that aren't notebook mysteries

Gone Home - a fantastic game. There is a mystery, and a framework to fill out (the map of the house), but no notebook or note-taking is necessary, nor a confirmation system. What IS Obra Dinn-like is piecing together what happened by the state the house was left in and letter & audio diaries left by the inhabitants, as well as constantly feeling like a ghost is maybe gonna eat you. It's one specific fate you're trying to determine throughout the game - the player character's sister, Sam - but I can see why it'd give off similar vibes.

What Remains of Edith Finch - see above. You uncover the fates of each family member as you make your way through an old spooky house, getting transported to mini-scenes that show the way each person died. I can definitely see why someone would compare to Return of the Obra Dinn in that respect - progress is measured in part by number of death scenes witnessed, which is a pretty unique mechanic. It's not a notebook mystery or note-taking game, but it is similar to Obra Dinn in some respects.

[jezykowadupokanapka]

I tried playing Sethian, a game that promised to be similar to Chants of Sennar, but it's completely babysitting me telling me exactly what to put in and translating everything for me, no fun, also it bugs out if you dare input some sentences you figured out before you're supposed to know them

[neoclassicalblobphilosopher]

He is watching

[st-eve]

The Sites of Seth

A study of different places concerning the god Seth

The god Seth is usually represented as a canid with a dropped snout and straight ears standing either seated or recumbent. 

The anthropomorphic figure with the head of Sethian canide is rarely found in the early dynasties. Historically, the first representation of the Seth animal appears during the period denominated Naqada I at the Predynastic cemetery at El Mahasna (Ayrton&Loat 1911, p.31). 

According to Petrie classification of the ceramic remains, the Sethian animal is only found in the SD 30-39, named C, regarding white figures over dark red background (Graff 2009, p.15). These Sethian images appear in a context closely related to the mountains and vegetation, specially the sedges, which fits very well with the hieroglyphs associated with one of the writings of his name (swty) which means ‘he of the sedge’(Kemp 2006, p. 71). The xAst mountains (Gardiner sign N25) is a determinative related to the desert, which is a common land of Seth as we will see.

The first evidence about warlike conflicts in the Nile Valley, comes from Naqada II onwards (Campagno 2004, p.689). The trace of Sethian animal does not return until Naqada III period, when was featured standing atop a standard in the macehead of King Scorpion.This shows that, by this time being in Egypt, different tribes were organized around a token (Grimal 1988, p. 41).

The standard in the centre shows the Sethian animal flanked by the mountains (left) and the storm god Min (right). The hanging lapwing (rxyt) is, probably, the symbol of original Delta people (Pirene 1965). The scene likely represents the victory of the northern followers of Seth over the people of Delta (Gardiner 1947, p.106). This is the same confederation that appears in a rock shelf at Gebel Tjauti.

― SETH AND THE ENVIRONMENT ( Maria Jose Amor Martinez )

( Note: I’ve always been interested and curious about places, locations and temples which connected to Seth. Surprisingly, so many of them were devoted to our beloved Red Lord during the history of Egypt. I think this may be an another great topic and document I could place here and more about it in the future just to make this little electric-Seth-directory more complete. I know I promised that I’ll get back with a different topic about Seth, however I have a little struggle with that, besides that, I didn’t shared any worthy post of Him for a while. Apologize for the delay and chaos, I'm really in to pick up myself as soon as I can. )

[arcane-offerings]

Dylan M. Burns, Apocalypse of the Alien God: Platonism and the Exile of Sethian Gnosticism, Divinations: Rereading Late Ancient Religion (Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 2014). Hardcover Edition. https://www.ebay.com/itm/254597139830

[rhosyn-o-magdalene]

The theme of androgyny running through many of these texts is in fact gendered. It passes itself off as even-handed, but as Jane Schaberg makes clear, the androgeny being prescribed is a male-dominant androgyny: the female contained within the male. The prescription is that women should become like men, never men like women.

The Gnostic Goddess, Female Power and the Fallen Sophia 

This is why I fell out of love with Gnostic Christianity and other New Age mystic groups that try to emphasise that God is beyond male and female, then falling back into male-as-default language. 

You see it a lot in Gnostic circles where the female character - Barbelo, Sophia, Eve, Magdalene - is always seen as the ‘other’, while the male character - Yahweh, Adam, Yeshua, Seth etc is described as having been perfect in their androgyny before separated from their ‘feminine side’. These religions would say “when we say Adam or Yeshua of course we are talking about neither a man or woman but both!” but when speaking of Eve or Magdalene, they are specifically talking about the feminine alone, and not always in the most flattering terms. Usually as a metaphor for a ‘missing piece’ that is lost or fallen, in need of rescuing by the male counterpart.

For some reason the idea of an all-powerful, agender being using He/Him pronouns is fine, but using She/Her pronouns and imagery while still being whole in Herself is wrong (unless you’re Good Omens, which is awesome).

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