#shitshow2023

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I think it's funny how he wanted this private life, but she's the most attention seeker of them all.

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Like tell me you're not in a relationship, without telling me you're not in a relationship. ////

Yep. And I don’t think that was an accident. I think he absolutely meant to go off script for this because of what was coming. May just be me in my tin foil hat, but after seeing the timelines and every interaction, I think he did this on purpose to fuck with this entire situation

I always felt that the interview was his genuine thought. I remember looking at how his eyes were watery, thinking there has got to be some struggle for him in finding that person and how even if you have it all, it's tricky and complicated.

I agree. Who knows what his intention was to say that, but he definitely knew this PR was going to roll out soon, and he decided to answer that in that way for a reason.

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thanks for answering. I am just saying the evidence is weak. It is not feasible to fly private on every flight and there's plenty of reasons why someone with a (formerly) low profile like her would fly commercial with a group of friends. I am sure she took many many flights during that time. Chris flies private because Chris LIKES it. Maybe she doesn't have the same hangups.

As for dropping hands, it could have been sweaty, they could have been in a disagreement, maybe one of them wanted to reach into a pocket for something. I just find the evidence to be so weak, especially when you think about how narrow a view the fandom has.

Also I don't think Chris is worth as much as you say he is. And because they don't clean up their social media channels isn't proof of anything besides the unhealthy relationship his fans have with him and their relationship. It's expensive to pay for that level of social media management and I just genuinely think he doesn't care that much about what other people have to say. I am not excusing her friends for posting racist shit, we all agree that is awful. But when you're building a life with someone it is in fact very normal to throw people together and see how it goes, which inherently means you're around people don't know very well. Racist uncles and shitty friends are the norm not the aberration. I know the fandom doesn't like what's happening but the logic of PR-only is not there. The Fandom is following the same trajectory as many before it and I find it interesting that those patterns across time and fandoms are not scrutinized to the same level as hand drops while walking and photo backgrounds.

The evidence is weak? 🫨

I doubt her or Justin or any of her other friends would NOT LIKE to fly on a private flight.

His hands got sweaty, so he let go of it as soon as the walkway for the pictures to be taken was done? Like not even a second later. He let go of her hand and put his sweaty hand in his pocket?

Why did she alert him, reaching out for his hand when she saw the civilian randomly recording??

I don't think the fandom has a narrow view. The fandom has the interest to see what is going on and notice it doesn't match up. The ones with narrow views are the GP. They don't have the interest to look further than what is being sold to them. They don't know that things don't add up. All they know and see are the things that's published.

So to you, his fans have an unhealthy relationship with him because bad comments are made on their SM, but you don't think it's an unhealthy relationship when the "couple" is deleting bad comments of themselves, but not the other person's?? How in the world does that make sense?

It's Hollywood. They literally pay for followers. He bought a bunch yesterday. Even Twitter, you're able to buy trending spots. AB was trending WORLD WIDE for tweeting a basic message. But somehow, all the hashtags the fans were actually using were nowhere to be seen on any trending list. Not to mention the tweet count not matching up in real time.

"Racist uncles and shitty friends are the norm not the aberration."

I- Yeah, I don't have anything to say to that. That's unacceptable for me. It should not be the norm. If that's the norm for you, that speaks volumes on who you are.

I don't know what this "trajectory" is that you're saying the fandom is following. The hand drop isn't being "scrutinized." And believe me, the fandom - even the normal ones - get scrutinized by the public daily.

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God not you too

All my fav blogs think they’re actually gonna get married🙄 first mandy now you

🫨??

Oh, idk, I think I still very much think it's all a PR shitshow.

Even if they post one, I don't think it's real. WHICH SOUNDS DELUSIONAL- but I mean it as in 'it's Hollywood. It ain't the first time and it ain't going to be the last time.'

However, apart from what I believe, it's still tiring to watch this. Every month of the shitshow, with every trolling and selling, I'm just tired of it all.

I have been avoiding his movies, so I don't ruin it for myself = I haven't watched him or heard his voice in a while. And with that, a certain amount of my interest has dropped. Which is sad lol.

But that is just who I am and what my opinions are at the moment.

No one can be 100% on what this is and what it will be. We just have to think of what we ourselves feel and be okay with that.

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I am not excusing her friends for posting racist shit, we all agree that is awful. But when you're building a life with someone it is in fact very normal to throw people together and see how it goes, which inherently means you're around people don't know very well.///

Oh anon, no. You’d rather excuse racism and antisemitism than to possibly admit that your favorite celebrity may be involved in a PR relationship. That’s fucking bullshit and you’re a shit person for that.

You’re the equivalent of “I’m not racist but…”

You can take a seat and listen. My mother hated everyone except Koreans. She said the most horrible things. Everytime I stood up to her, it ended with a fist or a slap. Guess the fuck what. I still did it.

If you cannot truly understand how it feels to have someone hate you because of your race, then this isn’t the conversation for you. You don’t get to tell us all to just move on cause this is real and now Evans has lost 20+ hears of his reputation as an ally and activist.

You’d excuse and accept racism or antisemitism than to actually admit this may be fake? Then you’re part of the fucking problem. Please don’t speak on our behalf again. You obviously know nothing of this and are able to judge perch of privilege

💯 (Also, hi! fellow Korean bestie!!!😆🩷 @adulting-sucks)

If you've never stood up to your own people about racism, you've never cared enough for it.

If you can't even call your own family member out on racist behaviors, you will never be calling out others about it. That's why you might think it's the norm.

But that is not the case for the ones that have been on the soul crushing side of racism. That is not the case for the ones that have rebelled against their elders and fight their way to teach them why it's wrong.

There is absolutely no acceptable reason for racism.

[rosyrosie-e]

chris doesnt gain anything, this is unfortunately very real. he has been dating her SINCE 2021. its 2023 and enough is enough we have, we must accept it is what it is. im done with chris and that thing her keep calling "babe"

If you think and believe it's real, that's fine.

For me, I just can't see any authenticity to believe its real, lol.

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IM SO CONFUSED so are they still together like they were at the very start? Orrrrr?

I mean, JustJared posting that article 5 hours before the actual instastory post clearly shows me how fake and set up this is for me.

And like I've said before, I don't think they were ever a thing 🤣🤣

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you keep on comparing the Seb and Chris situations and they're not the same... Sebastian never followed any of her friends, they didn't follow sebastian neither, he didn't have them at his apartment, and he even "moved" to LA while he was with her even tho he doesn't like LA 💀 (she said in a interview that she was "living" with her bf in LA... Seb doesn't live in LA, he clearly moved during that time so she wouldn't be at his apartment), Chris has had all of her friends and her in all his 3 houses 😬. Seb never posted anything for valentines. and they were one valentine "together" (in reality she was in Spain and he was in Canada filming fresh lmao). like there are so many differences where you can see Sebs situation was truly pr, Chris tho? yeah no, I'm sorry but i don't buy the pr thing. why would a man worth 112 millions be in a pr relationship? and if it was affecting him, are you telling me he can't get out of whatever contract there is??? yeah no, sorry. that man is there willingly, he's attracted to women who look like they're 15 and there's that.

There are many points that correspond to the two PRs. I don't know much about her friends, so I can't say how they are, but ABs friends are all attention seekers. The whole group was the one that started all the trolling. It would've been more believable if her friends weren't with them on almost every "trip".

Why would a man worth 110 million send his girlfriend back home right after New years on a commercial flight? And let's be honest, it doesn't matter who you are or how much you made to do PR in Hollywood. It can be set for project promos, deals that include new projects, exposure for upcoming nomination, to keep relevant, etc. Harry Styles went out with Olivia Wilde for gs. (Yes, this was a shocker for me back in my GP days, lmao)

Who knows what the clause was for the contract. I can't assume he can or can't break it. My opinion is that Hollywood is filled with manipulations, and frankly, I don't think he's above all of the people who make these decisions.

PR in Hollywood is part of a deal, money transactions, and all marketing tactics.

And sorry, but I'm not going to make disgusting assumptions that I don't have facts for. It's not fair for him and even her.

I keep saying this, but these answers are my opinions. I'm just kind of the person who doesn't want to jump into the very end of the hate spectrum when I know things can be either or. This is why I don't have any means to "baby" him, but I will also not put out provocative assumptions easily.

All I can say is, if you agree, that's good, let's talk!

If you disagree but respect my opinions, that's good, I appreciate it, and I respect your opinions!

If you disagree and can't respect my opinions, just go away, please!

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