Vtuber fans... We're going through it dawg... Michi Mochievee, forgive me for I have doubted when you said that it was hard to trust people in the vtuber industry. "what could go wrong?" I thought. I WAS BUT A FUCKING FOOL.
So basically, Nano (an artists) who was previously employed by Sinder came out with a Google Doc basically detailing th following (also for clarity Sinder's manager is called [ redacted] but it is her manager to which you later confirms:
>Sinder and her manager were intentionally using manipulative tactics and behaviour to isolate Nano into becoming someone who exclusively works for that
> intentionally sabotaging other people projects
>encouraging Nano to be ruder and charge more money for their services, even though Nano was trying to be nice and give sample out for cheap/free to other trusted clients
>intentionally wanting to sabotage Bao The Whale, and other notable vtubers ( who have yet to speak out and that's why I'm not gonna talk about them) by encouraging Nano to charge more and even cancel projects all together to prioritise Sinder
>Isolating Nano and other artists so that they exclusively work with her after Bao "stole one of her editors"
>Manipulations and gaslighting.
https://x.com/Nanoless_/status/1916005023646916910?t=7KA0YUai6dnYn1SoYZ20MA&s=19
Some other artists as well as other vtubers have shown their support and shared someone their experiences thinking it was a "normal part of the industry"
Bao The Whale, creating a response post basically going through everything that was set in the documents and somethings to note:
>The video editor independently chose to be exclusive to her to which she was very supportive but also encouraged them to work and other projects if necessary
> she has never once Sabotage someone else's work intentional and she didn't know that editor worked with Sinder previously
>Both her and other but especially Numi are heartbroken, confused and overwhelmed by the situation because they just found it that Sinder and her manager has been intentionally sabotaging projects they've been doing for a number of months and maybe even year(s). Leading to the question of how many smaller or larger project did Snider or her manager intentionally sabotage to gain leeway?
> following on for the previous point, Sinder sees vtuber as "just for business", which is quoted saying in Nano and another doc. Meaning that she was sabotaging people for profit. So think back to all the times they'd been "scammed" or overcharged in the past. All the times they'd been ghosted. Because in Nano doc, it's implied that Sinder wanted Nano to essentially prioritise her and ghost everyone else
https://x.com/baovtuber/status/1916006443242639566?t=lFbskdh3PfiRGDrGqhoXTQ&s=19
Since then both the editor and channel manager of Bao have confirmed both independently of each other that she encouraged them to take other opportunities if necessary or wanted.
Since this Sinder has posted her own reply shifting the blame on her manager, but still apologising. Additionally she's the number 1 trending in the US on twitter right now
Here you can see the confirmation of him being her manager and how she's throwing them under the bus.
THE TOP REPLY HOWEVER is from someone who played games with them in the past, and has said (with many other sources saying it's true) that her "manager" is her boyfriend. Which makes even more sense as to why she'd want people exclusively for them.
The running joke being that "you'd fire the manager but keep the boyfriend?"
It also saved her a significant amount of money, because she didn't really need to pay her boyfriend. So for her to then turn around and then encourage people to charge double what she pays knowing they're paying out of pocket for EVERYTHING themselves is even worse