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BrBa & BCS producer Stewart Lyons reaches a milestone of producing 100 episodes in New Mexico (Albuquerque Journal News): “Right now, there’s a TV renaissance going on in the state. There’s so much production going on, and it’s busy. I’ve enjoyed all kinds of support here. At one point, Breaking Bad was one of the few shows shooting here, and we were carrying a lot of the load.”

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Is that the beginning of Jimmy turning into Saul, the transformation of him becoming into a dirty lawyer? Stewart Lyons: “I think that the question becomes how do people become anything? It doesn't start from a blank slate. Jimmy has a very detailed background that they've created of Slipping Jimmy. Is he becoming something that he isn't or is he turning into something that he was and he was hoping to get to somewhere else? I think that that's the tough part. The thing that keeps coming through, that people have a tendency to overlook, is how great a thinker and lawyer Jimmy McGill really is. He set his brother up to basically. “... It was a wonderful cross-examination in that home office, in which, basically, by the time Jimmy springs the information about the telephone having no battery, there's no place for his brother to go to lie. He has trapped his brother in revealing the worst secret that he could've revealed. That was a masterful stroke of cross-examination of lawyering, as it were. “I think that question of, ‘When does he become Saul?’ He may become Saul or he may just reveal to himself that he's Saul. We don't know that yet. “The joy in watching what Peter Gould and Vince Gilligan write, and it's the joy that is the common factor with Breaking Bad, is you just can't get ahead of these guys in telling the story. No matter what you dream up, they'll dream up something smarter, more original, unexpected. If you can outsmart them, then write them a letter telling them how you outsmarted them. They'll put you on the writing staff, because they're that good.”

– from Interview with Better Call Saul's Co-Executive Producer Stewart Lyons