Sanity (2020) and Stick Parent (2024) by Caroline Bird
In Episode 339, Rachel shares two poems surrounding motherhood and childhood!
Rachel: [...] there's a lot for me to like kind of explore in that poem. Of like —because there's also for me, when she talks about those opportunities that she had to like put her ear to something magical and nothing happened. It like speaks to this kind of like —for me, it creates kind of like an anxiousness. [...] Like things don't make sense. Like things aren't happening —like I'm not getting any feedback. And then to have this lack of mystery in some ways is like, oh—
Griffin: Kind of great.
Rachel: It's gotten easier, I'm not as scared.
Instead of writing some of my thoughts, I'm gonna share the quote that Rachel reads about Bird's latest book: 'So this is like hot off the presses. It is a collection about quote, "Marriage, lesbian parenthood, addiction and recovery in which a recurring dream is playing out. A world where mums impale themselves on pogo-sticks, serial killers rattle around in basements, baby monitors are haunted by someone else's baby and, through it all, love stays and stays like a stationary rollercoaster that turns out to be the scariest, most thrilling ride in the amusement park."'
If you’d like to hear more, you can do so here: A Meditative Grappling, from 7:15 - 12:56