Yea, I decided to add Vocaloids. They are gonna be more of a direct connection for NSR to the JJK curses and HS trolls as she is (was) on the same side as them.
No one actually believes she is the real Miku, and just thinks someone made a robot AI of her like what Sayu became. But it was actually the real Miku coming alive! It takes a while for people to believe that (and she doesn't mind as long as she can sing and perform for people, so NSR is her goal!)
And yea. Also adding in Steven Universe, but it's just a few gems and not any actual characters from the show, except maybe White Diamond. Basically the plot of Steven Universe could happen later in life even farther beyond the Future Act of Eriverse (but for now it is just White Diamond and random gems like pearls and rubies).
steven universe is the only exception okay like usually when i watch a new episode of a show or a movie i’m like. okay. gotta play it cool. save some posts in drafts or queue them just like subtly spread them around so it doesn’t look like you’re currently losing it. but with steven universe common sense just flies off the window have 500 posts in a row of the same scene just giffed differently i don’t give a fuck i’m losing my mind and i don’t care who’s the witness
Love the sheer fabric looking like a poncho!! And the striped shirt!!
Is her gem placement a reference to Purl’s 1010 mark at the side of their head? And her salute isn’t a Diamond one, what is she doing? (Would she get another name that isn’t “Pearl”, her “job name”?)
Thank you!!!! She's freaking adorable! (need to draw her and Venellope and Napkin together for some reason lol)
And yes! Her gem is in the same place that Purl's 1010 mark was (I don't think it would be there anymore, mostly wires are coming out of the side of their head).
To be honest, I don't know if she was made FOR Purl or if she was saved by them. So either it is a coincidence her gem is on the side of her head and she is from Blue's court, or she was made specifically for Purl. Still working that out (kinda like the idea that she was made for them as a spy like most Pearls were, but she defected and is now purely living with Purl from the want to do so).
And that salute is the Korean sign language signs for 10 and 10. So she is basically just saluting 1010 lol. Had to look up if you could do that sign with either hand and it did say so, so I'm hoping putting both up would technically make sense (and not be something entirely wrong by accident).
As for now, I do not plan to give her another name, mainly because she would not need one in the story. At least, not until Steven comes to visits Purl and Shoko with Mana, then he would probably try to name her since he already has his Pearl.
I do not think she would like to be given a name. Since like, why does SHE have to get a new name instead of the other Pearl? It's not really all that fair. Though, considering how young Steven is, she would probably take on a temporary name just to avoid confusion, but she would not like it to stick (and Purl and the rest would still call her Pearl, probably Blank would stick to the nickname to be a dick).
Maybe if someone did bring up the argument that being a pearl was her job so keeping the name Pearl would be still accepting the job, but then again, she would just make the same argument as to why Steven's Pearl should keep her name with no problems while she would have to change her own name.
So yea, she is most likely not gonna get a nickname in story aside from what Steven and others would call her to keep confusion low, but we can definitely give her a nickname out of story to keep it less confusing and possibly demeaning than saying "Purl's Pearl" (not like she would have any problem being called that lol).
Crack HC: K-Pop Demon Hunters in the Eriverse!
It would take place after the 1000 year timeskip, so Rumi and co would exist around the same time as Steven from Steven Universe!
(I thought it would be fitting because Rumi is also half demon/human, and Steven is half gem/human, making them both entity/human hybrids!)
You are absolutely correct!
I had ideas of adding KPDH to the Eriverse, and if I did it would absolutely be after the 1000 year timeskip!
My initial thought was that Huntrix would actually be robots, mirroring 1010 from 1000 years ago (possibly Rumi being related directly to one of the 1010 robots, so Purl would probably stay away from her on purpose).
Still don't know if I will go with that idea or if it would be better for them to just be humans.
Whether I go with robots or humans, I think Rumi would be seen as a robot, but in reality she is actually all three (human, robot, and entity). I don't know how, but that would be her story.
While Steven is like a pure hybrid of human and entity (before people would either be seen as purely entity or purely human, no inbetween), Rumi would be all three (not just an organic robot or a robot elemental, but both along with being an elemental).
She would still try to hide her elemental part, as well as whether she was human or robot depending on which version of Huntrix I end up going with (she would hide her human side if they were robots and hide her robot side if they were humans).
It truly is just a whole new world! Combinations are happening! :D
I see you might have a thing for codependent ships… (not complaining though, they’re really fun to see in fiction!)
(Ilia/Dagon) (maybe, but I see Dagon as someone who ain’t that possessive of anything, but maybe on Ilia’s end…)
Yamikumo/Kurourushi
Yuta/Rika
Pearl/Rose
Ruby/Sapphire
Pavitr/Gayatri
(To some extent Satoru/Suguru, Fumihiko/Ham, …Margo/Tila, Yinu/Peni due to their messed up experiences in the past)
I’d love to hear your thoughts! Are there any other MFers/pos with this type of ship feel? (And I apologize in advance if this take on Ilia/Dagon (StringSea??) is off)
[Just starting this ask but buckle up, I think it's gonna be a longer one than usual lol. Not even halfway through and realized this needs to be under a cut, so I'll be doing that :3. Oh yea, just finished, it's a long one y'all!]
Love when people notice things about me that I didn't even know about myself lol! I had literally no idea there were THAT many codependent ships in my library haha!
Though, looking up the term "codependent" says that one party is being manipulative while the other has a want to be controlled/satisfy the needs of the person who is manipulative/has an emotionally unstable personality.
Which I don't think fully fits a lot of these ships, but I think both you and I had a different idea of "codependent" where the partners are both just REALLY dependent on each other to the point they can't function that well without the other, which was my first thought of what codependency was and not one side being manipulative while the other tries to serve the other side.
At least that is how I see a lot of these ships. [Under the cut]
-For the Ilia/Dagon ship (StringSea songs like string cheese in my head lol. I might go with Sea String instead though I think that's already something else, but it's a good starting ship name!), I would say it's not codependent but instead obsessed with each other.
Pre-evolved Dagon was very dependent but not just on Ilia, on basically all the curses because they just weren't evolved yet so needed that dependency. Once they evolved and could do more stuff for themself (they could still do stuff before but needed help if another enemy curse was involved) they were a lot more self sufficient and didn't NEED any help but would still like it.
I wouldn't say Ilia is possessive of Dagon, but he is very protective. He's honestly protective of all the curses, Dagon being the most protective because the two are in a relationship.
The two can function without the other but just like being near each other a lot and so people can get the idea that they are codependent on each other.
Both would absolutely kill for the other and has (and not just in life or death situations, they have killed humans for the other just to eat or play with as well lol).
-Yamikumo and Kuroshi are absolutely codependent. There is no alternative to them at all.
Kuroshi is the much more dependent of the relationship because he literally needs Yamikumo to live as she infuses her flesh with cursed energy/magic in order for Kuroshi to actually be able to eat it.
Swap Uraume's cursed energy infused food used to do the same thing, but Kuroshi's powers have grown past the phase where even reinforced food barely gives any sustenance (and absolutely no substance), so he is at the mercy of Yamikumo and has a high priority to keep her alive for as long as possible otherwise he dies as well.
Yamikumo isn't as dependent on Kuroshi in a physical way like he is with her, but she mentally can't see herself living without him. He's been there for her for decades and is the one person she actually talks to and can be herself around him (not even her little brother sees her true self because she's always protecting him, seeing him more like a pet to keep alive rather than an actual human being, but that's a story for another time).
She could technically live without Kuroshi, but she wouldn't really want to. Her life would become boring and trying to find a replacement for him to the point she'd probably ruin a bunch of relationships around her trying to fill that void.
I can absolutely see her having a huge crash out if Kuroshi died and becoming a despicable curse user that would be very difficult to take down because of her technique and cursed weapon.
-Yuta and Rika are similar to Yamikumo and Kuroshi, but to a slightly lesser degree? Kind of?
They are both dependent on each other in the sense that their love is what pushes them, but they can absolutely function alone when needed and will even have other healthy friendships for the most part outside of their relationship (Kuro/kumo really only have each other and some fleeting friendships around them that aren't their biological familial relationships).
Rika is obviously the much more dependent and possessive one in the relationship. She used to never want to see Yuta with anyone else, especially other girls, but has been getting better over time where she can let Yuta have other friends outside of her.
Yuta is pretty good functioning outside of Rika, but I would say he is still real protective of her. Especially as he has grown stronger with his powers, he feels like he has to be the one to protect her as he is more offensively built compared to her more defensive powers (though their mindsets are swapped where Yuta is much more defensive and Rika is offensive in how they want to fight).
This could be a much more classic case of codependency, like the actual definition version. Where Rika is manipulating Yuta into staying in the relationship and Yuta wanting to do whatever she can to appease Rika, but it is absolutely not intentional on Rika's part.
Rika just truly loves and adores Yuta and has this want to keep them to herself. Yuta has a people pleasing personality (which he is working on to fix and be more tough when necessary) which makes him want to appease Rika a lot.
Neither are trying to actively alienate and hurt the other, but they are teenagers who don't know how to fully process their emotions entirely and found true companionship for the first time in each other so it's really hard for either of them to let the other go even if it would be much healthier for them to be apart (not saying it is, but if they don't work on themselves individually as well as a couple, their relationship is going to get very toxic in the future).
As long as they can recognize what their relationship is and can figure out ways to mature by themselves as well as together, they will be fine. But yes, right now they are highly dependent on each other to get the validation they crave (though Yuta has been making friends and so Rika feels alone sometimes which makes her more possessive and protective. Once she starts making friends, possibly with Mai and Momo, or even Todo and Yuji would be funny, she'll be able to start working on herself and being able to function outside of being by Yuta's side).
If you want to talk about the human with their entity/curse counterpart, then basically it's just that Rika (human and curse) is very dependent on Yuta (curse and human).
Curse/entity Rika is the most dependent on Yuta because she literally will go on a complete rampage without Yuta as an anchor (entity Rika can end up anchoring to human Rika and then to entity Rika once human RIka dies).
Human Yuta is dependent on curse Rika until the curse is broken, then he's more dependent on her as a tool rather than an emotional crutch. Similar with entity Rika, except he became less dependent on entity Rika once human Rika returned.
Human Rika is very dependent on curse and entity Yuta as emotional support and for keeping her alive with their healing magic/RCT. Curse Yuta is her last connection to Yuta and so I don't think she ever breaks the curse, at least not as a teenager, and entity Yuta is more of a stand in for human Yuta which she gets back once she returns.
Curse/entity Yuta is probably the least dependent out of everyone, in the sense that I can see them being able to survive without Rika just in a heatbroken manner. More of a depressed reactive (as in reacts to stuff coming to them) anger rather than being an active anger like Rika. Is based off of love for Rika but in a protective way, keep Rika alive way, not a kill everyone around Rika way that curse/entity Rika is with Yuta. Still loves and is dependent on Rika, but not nearly as much as curse/entity Rika is on Yuta (or human Rika is for any Yuta).
-With Pearl/Rose, oh absolutely Pearl is super dependent on Rose. That was like a WHOLE thing in the show and will be in the Eriverse as well (most of the SU canon is pretty much unchanged in my mind right now, if I put more thought into that part of the AU I'm sure there will be big changes).
Rose isn't as dependent on Pearl, especially not later on in their lives. She still holds Pearl in great regard, but in all honesty, Rose doesn't really depend on others all that much in the first place.
It's not even a codependent relationship where Rose is using Pearl, as Rose wants Pearl to be free and be her own gem, but Pearl is constantly wanting to be of use, to be a tool, to Rose. So it's more Pearl creating this toxic relationship that Rose doesn't really see/hasn't noticed yet because she's too busy trying to become her own gem as well.
So it's definitely Pearl having dependency on Rose while Rose is sorta oblivious to just how much Pearl is still devoted to her.
-Ruby/Sapphire. Pretty sure these are the two that literally made me start liking this kind of relationship in fiction so much lol!
Like these two cannot, for most of the story, function without the other at all. Once they fell in love they became a perma fusion so that their love could be it's own gem entirely!
It was beautiful but also making them stunted in their growth, which they were able to work on as the years went by and they started to become their own gems outside of Garnet, but still hold that love between them while unfused.
I love them so much and while they aren't as messy and toxic as some of the other ships on here that I adore (Yamikumo and Kuroshi the most I love), they are still messy enough to be still so interesting and loving at the same time!
-For Pavitr and Gayatri, I don't see them as codependent at all. Neither one truly depends on the other at all. They are literally just the healthy version of Yuta and Rika lol.
These two just love each other a whole lot but aren't putting the other on a pedestal (other than like how Gomez put Morticia on a pedestal, which these two do to each other), suffocating each other in their love, or ignoring/hating the world if it doesn't revolve around either one of them.
For the most part, they are just a healthy, loving couple that can go about doing their own thing or enjoy each others' company. They don't have separation anxiety for the other and have full trust in the other as well. They build each other up and push them to do better and progress in life.
So yea, Pav and Gaya are not a codependent relationship.
-SatoSugu I can definitely see being codependent. Neither would probably admit it, but you can see it in how they act when they are not with the other.
Plus also, I think the way they fight would absolutely be explosive but they literally can't stay away from each other that much.
Satoru is absolutely the more clingy one of the relationship, and Suguru can do his own thing more often, but they each enjoy each others' company and will destroy the world to be with each other.
Even when Suguru left Satoru for a while (to become a father and then be brainwashed by Kenjaku), he still thought a lot of blue and wanted to try and make the relationship work.
They definitely depend on each other. They are each others' best friend. They love each other until the end of the world. Though Satoru is the one more willing to crashout because of the relationship while Suguru needs more external forces (so a similar relationship like Rose and Pearl except that Suguru returns Satoru's feelings).
-Fumihiko and Ham I don't see as being codependent. Not really?
They are absolutely close, but I don't see them as like needing each other to live. They definitely help give extra purpose and meaning to the others' life (especially Ham having Fumihiko pull her out of a pretty bad depression in the case of her aunt situation), but they aren't like fully dependent on each other.
I kinda see the two as being on a similar level of Pav and Gaya. At least once they get back together during the culling games does their relationship become a lot more healthy and stable compared to what they had before.
Actually, now that i think about it, I can absolutely see their first go of their relationship being really codependent, especially on Funihiko's end where they were so reliant on Ham to feel like they were being a good comedian that it was one of the added reasons that Ham had to leave when her aunt got sick. Ham literally couldn't be the rock that Fumihiko needed because of her situation.
It's only after the couple of years separated and the crisis of the world that the two were able to mature into two new people that could give the relationship another chance without it delving into codependency on each other.
So they were a codependent relationship that was able to work itself out over time and try again to be a more healthy relationship.
-Margo and Tila... Yea, I can see it.
Tila is very dependent on Margo for a lot of things. Though honestly, she's dependent on a lot of people throughout her life, especially her friends and the mermaids, but now she's mainly dependent on Margo. Not in the sense of the definition of codependency.
Tila has a lot of mental problems that she has to work through each day to try and have a normal life. Margo helps her with that as best as bit can (as well as Tila having communications with the rest of the Sayu Crew still to this day).
It's much easier for Tila to live with Margo in her life than it was without her as Margo gives her a really good ground to reality (though there are still stuff Tila struggles through even with Margo there). Not to mention that Margo is a comfort person for Tila, someone who she feels extremely safe with, so of course she is going to become really reliant on keeping Margo around.
And Margo loves Tila a lot. She's happy for the most part to be helping Tila. There are some rough days, but bit sticks through it because bit loves Tila.
Byte knows she can go off and live on bits own with no problem. But bit wants Tila in bytes life. Bit wants to be here and helping Tila even if bit knows she will have to also be a care giver to Tila at times. Byte knows that Tila is dependent on bit and doesn't mind it.
It's why it's such a tragedy that Margo took the risk to try and help TADC domain. Bit wants to help people and thought bit would be okay, only to lose byteself to the domain and effectively killed byteself in the process. Leavin Tila forever.
And absolutely we know this destroys Tila. If it wasn't for the Crew and Club, who knows what would have happened to her as she spiraled from the loss of Margo.
So kinda, they have a relationship where Tila is fairly dependent on Margo, but bit is happy to be there caring for Tila.
-For Yinu and Peni? I don't know. I honestly don't think they are a codependent relationship. They are more trauma bonded in my mind rather than codependent.
I actually think both would be super hyper independent and even after years of being together would sometimes have hard times asking the other for help or feeling like they can depend on the other (not in the sense of lack of trust, but more in not wanting to cause stress onto the other).
Instead, the two have become close by bonding over their shared trauma of losing family and having to put so much weight on their shoulders (Peni having to deal with causing the death of nyas father and Yinu feeling responsible for having to make a living for their family basically from the age of 5).
They are both a lot more mature than they should be given that they are just in their early 20s. It really is just the fact both were forced to grow up way too soon and so are still trying to figure themselves out outside of being the responsible ones.
So they are basically the opposite of dependent where they are trying to be as independent as possibly while still being in a relationship. Both are definitely going to be there for the other when needed, but neither are going to actually go out of their way to tell the other they need help until it is too late and there is a blowout (you can expect fights between them to be similar to Satoru and Suguru, very explosive and harsh but making up in the end).
-Two more relationships I want to add that are in the same boat kinda are Eve/Zuke and Eve/Purl-hew.
Both relationships have Eve using another person to make herself feel whole. She saw the potential that Zuke had and wanted him to be like her in an unstoppable and unreachable position. Purl-hew on the other hand was more of a replacement for Zuke for a small bit of time before she moved on from them.
We already know from the game how her relationship ended with Zuke, with her putting his hair on fire and him running away. Then her finally getting closure for that relationship later on.
During the relationship Zuke wanted to live up to her expectations but couldn't and was just so overwhelmed. While he wasn't the one depending on the relationship, he absolutely felt that he had to be there for Eve and make her feel better until the hair situation and he couldn't take that kind of role in a relationship anymore.
As for Eve and Purl, like I said, Eve was using Purl as a replacement for Zuke. The two actually acted pretty similar with their cool guy personality, which was what first drew Eve to Purl. That and the fact that Purl also does have an artistic side as well as an analytical personality that allowed Eve to desire their input (once Eve found out about these traits, because Purl tried to keep up a blank personality for a long time but let snippets of their interests fall through the cracks which Eve picked up on).
The problem was, Purl was a Navy warbot and child abuse victim. They were created and molded to follow orders. So when someone who has a higher rank than them tells them to do something, they do it (and Eve is a higher rank than 1010 in their eyes). That means that Purl felt they had no ability to say no to Eve. No say in whether they could actually want or deny her wishes.
So without even knowing it, Eve ended up taking advantage of Purl, and since Purl has a complex of needing people to need them, there were times they went out searching for Eve to desire them just so they could feel like they were a useful tool.
It is a complex relationship that was on and off again. Eve didn't know she was using Purl, thinking that they could just tell her no, and Purl was just following orders but still was able to get something out of the situation (which is how Purl justified it).
To this day, Eve doesn't know she did anything wrong to Purl as Purl has never told her what their mindset was. I have played with scenarios in my head where Purl finally does tell Eve what she did to them, but honestly I don't think any of those scenes would be canon. Purl would be taking that shit to their grave, especially once Haym started dating Eve.
While the relationship between Eve and Purl wasn't a true actual relationship, more like fuck-buddies, they both still depended on each other in an unhealthy and toxic way that did way more harm to the two of them than it did help.
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And I don't have any other ships in mind to add. I probably could come up with some more, but honestly this is such a long ask already just by answering your examples and adding 2 more of mine.
It was really fun to get to make a big answer again! I tried to get this done in one go but absolutely couldn't. So if it feels disjointed in some sections that's because I had to save and come back to this ask a few times lol :3
