#t michonne

[wolfwhiteflowers]

sigh idk Scars/Michonne centered ep made me think about how i’m frustrated with the show/s9 all over again.

I’m ranting and it’s probably dumb cos it probably make more sense after s9 and like to watch the episodes. :P 

s9B spoilers!

*Carol and Michonne

The thing is I have high expectations and a different expectations on the ep 14/Michonne and how s9 ends like for the Grimes/main story goes. So far it’s not going the way I wanted to go (or maybe some parts in ep 15&16.)

I don’t understand why writers add this crazy violent angst(meshed up all of Carol’s angsts throughout the show’s in 2 episodes) storyline to Michonne who is already super sadz alone without Rick and raising 2 kids. It’s like they’re messing up Michonne’s storyline and Carol’s too in s9, IMO. I don’t understand their arcs this season and what’s next for them. It’s like the writers didn’t plan ahead. I also don’t know why they added random details to Michonne’s story. So, in s9 and in two eps. she met her College friend and something about her mom, and killing kids. These are big details added to Michonne’s story now, but it’s like why?...what’s next till the end. Michonne does this and that and everything and finally reunites Rick. But is she still Michonne/comic Michonne...? if u get it.

Sigh yeah there’s so many changes in s9/Kang with the characters. I hope TWD ends when they’re still in-character.

 Why did writers have Michonne go through that super violent experience? And it didn’t explain why TF is so against her now. / Why Carol Peletier is still stuck in Kingdom away from TF and just now learning about dumb Henry’s been missing.  I also think we haven’t have a solo scene of just Carol showing us what’s she’s been through lately and what she’s thinking. if u get it...she feels like a side character (I’m way more interested in Michonne rn). Oh and from spoilers, that Henry dies which again is messing up Carol’s arc imo. Repeating her pain again for the fifth time, why? (read my other *twd posts) I really thought the “losing a child” arc ended with Henry/Lintz kid. He’s even part of comic-Carl’s arc. (wtf are they doing with Lydia then?)

Then like the finale or the whole 9B is about the fair and it’s like TF is mad at Michonne but wtf about the part of 9A where TF didn’t want to unite and build the bridge? Why is Zeke wanting the fair to happen? He really needed trade now? That’s how to unite communities? 

I’m like stuck. I just want the show to still be good and be better. TWD dragging it out and sucking. Stop with the weird writing and changes. :| (well it’s Kang’s show so. boom, changes.)

i look forward to the movies but I don’t even know how those movies go and how the movie + show’s next seasons go. 

I just want this story to finish soon and to finish strong with a happy ending!

[wolfwhiteflowers]

Thoughts on Michonne....sad post

*Major spoilers and speculations 

So what I read on spoilers and stuff..if I’m accurate on it. So ep 5 is called What Comes After (Rick’s last ep) I’m just gonna assume he dies on the bridge or from protecting the bridge. meh, any death scenario will suck. The title is weird. Is it after he dies? Walkers comes after him? After bitten, death? Idk. This ep is gonna be so sad. lol Uh you guys got AU fics?

The pic above is from ep 6 supposedly and it’s called Who Are You Now. It takes place after like five years later. The title kinda makes sense..unless the time jump is in ep 5.

I just wanna point out some parallels and how sad that pic looks.

Ehh I hate this picture. Now that I know it’s from ep. 6. This is when it’s five or so years later. This picture reminds me of a lot on Michonne’s journey. It reminds me of Michonne’s nightmare/flashback when we learn about her walker pets are. They’re being her bf and friend and she had a son, Andre. It reminds me of the comics or s5 when Michonne doesn’t miss the sword because the sword reminds her of bad times - death of her friends, fighting enemies.

 So, this picture reminds me how this crazy show wants to keep going after Rick’s departs. Michonne is without her lover and child again and again (Rick and Carl). I think that kind of story is bad writing...unfortunate. Idk what’s her endgame in her story.  Raising Judith, I guess, but her backstory doesn’t really match it. Anyways, I just think her story doesn’t make sense and it’s all depressing. Um yeah this picture is a lot take in.  

But maybe the pic is just showing how Michonne doesn’t need a weapon anymore because communities are all peaceful and safe now or something. 

[wolfwhiteflowers]

heads on pikes 

speculations and fliming spoilers are going around lately. Zeke fans, dont read it.  (keep reading)

Im wondering when it happens, who’s the victims, and who finds out first.

So far the spoilery folks don’t know for sure. lol Ep 10 is like almost done or something. People are anxious to know more who’s dead or not. But we barely got any spoilers. So Idk.

The heads on pikes moment may happen in msf because in msp there are two moments that happens after it, comic story-wise. But the show sometimes change these big events timeline-wise in the show. So..maybe the moment will be in the finale episode instead of in the msf. zzzz i want the heads on pikes in msf.

I was thinking about who’s gonna see the heads on pikes and I thought about the comics and what works storywise in the show too. I think Carol and maybe ..Michonne and Daryl will find it first (main characters..omg it’s gonna be C, D, & M). I say Carol because I’m noticing Carol may have some comic-Rick’s parts in show with both being the parent and parent of Carl/Carl 2.0-Henry. (..or comic-Andrea and Carl?) Idk why i mention this. Oh it’s because of this parallel thing I have in mind from the comics, but I think even Kirkman doesn’t see it either..idk.  Like comic-Carl, Henry is causing drama with the whisperers and loving Lydia. I noticed there’s a parallel with these teens. Later in the comics, Lydia’s mom, Alpha, died and then ..after the whisperer war, Andrea died. Both Carl and Lydia’s moms died. It’s a parallel but no one really cares.. So...with the show I guess maybe it will be like Henry’s dad and Carol’s husband, E died and also Lydia’s mom will die. So if E dies like in the comics too, it’s also emotionally impacts Carol. Also, uh C&E is also like rushed romantically to have her be a wife. Like this is TWD no one is happy, and also maybe the writers are thinking Carol, Maggie, and Michonne have something in common and bond over about dead husbands, idk. (like the movie Widows?) Or if Maggie’s gone by then, then Michonne and Carol bond together then? (like actually talk to each other.)

Idk who is meant to see these heads on the pikes storywise but it seems like Carol is the one that will bring a lot emotionally. I was reading some comments and people saying like that moment doesn’t need to happen because we already know Alpha/whisperers is a big threat by..killing off Jesus but looking at the comics, I’m like it’s like one of the big moments in the comics! It’s very gruesome and impactful to the story arc. It makes you want these character to start a war on these unhuman-like people, imo. (it also shows how Negan isn’t that bad..can be redeemable blah bah)  I think TWD crew would love to show this part in the show. 

Interesting thing about the comics, Kirkman also wanted to make the readers think it’s comic-Michonne who died by seeing the flowly dreads in the panel and Rick’s shocked face (and was talking about her a minute ago), but next the panel we learn it’s actually Ezekiel’s head. So uh,idk maybe tv-Michonne dies instead...since Danai’s contract ends this season and her stardom is rising. But I hope it’s all Danai’s choice. Of course I want Michonne to live on like a Grimes happy ending where they find Rick in the end. idk what’s next for her tbh. Michonne takes care of Judith but Danai’s career...?  

So...it does seems like it’s all about Carol and I think it’s gonna happen in the finale, I’m speculating. And I’m waitin’ for more spoilers. 

[wolfwhiteflowers]

spec: michy’s viewpoint

After watching the Michonne & Rosita 8x06 sneak peek, it made me curious about Michonne and Richonne. (First of all it’s like omg ladies interacting and Michonne is back. I miss her. I’m wondering how Rosita will react in this ep because she’s been on the edge a lot lately and since the war started, what will she do now.)

So in the sneak peek, Michonne wants to leave to do her “mission”, to help out TF. I’m guessing she’s going to where the Scavengers are at and check on Rick. Rosita tells her to say put because they’re both still healing from their injuries, and TF must follow Rick’s plan. It’s weird to see that sneak peek scene just after 8x05, when Rick and Daryl were fighting over Rick’s plan. It makes me wonder about Michonne and that would she agree with Rick on the kill-all-saviors or prison-the surrenders? Would Michonne agree with Daryl (Tara, Morgan,) to use those dynamites? I think we will get the gist of her viewpoint in 8x06. (Idk what’s Carol’s view point of it yet.) Michonne is already doing her own thing and kinda going against Rick’s plan in a personal way. I’m curious what’s her plot is like. All this reminds me of s7-her and the savior lady. I like these plots because it’s just MIchonne and we see what’s she’s thinking.

It also make me think of Caryl, and how I wonder how would Carol react or do with Daryl who is full of kill rage. Like there’s pairings that if they interact about these things about the killing all the saviors/or prison ‘em, it would also be interesting and dramatic. But, the show is focusing on certain parings for now. ahh i want AU angsty fics then.

Oh, this theme or whatever it is, these parings(Morgan&Tara/Jesus, Rick/Daryl) disagreeing, it kind of reminds me of the comics...let’s just say (i think)most people disagree with Rick in the end of AOW about something.

I really like the pairing of Michonne and Rosita, so far. It’s clever and it makes sense for them to interact. I’m also wondering if they’re gonna have a moment where they disagree about the topic of killing all saviors or not. I also hope there’s some angsty Richonne moment. Like she’s worried about him.

[wolfwhiteflowers]

um maybe unpopular opinion...  I know people are disappointed with lack of Michonne in the s8 trailer. It’s partly from Danai who was filming a movie and I guess showing Richonne is too spoilery or doesn’t go with the trailer - theme?. idk

Anyway, so far I think Michonne already had more plots (or agenda) than comic Andrea had at this time in All Out War part 1 story (s8A). 

I think s8A will be All Out War part 1 and s8B will be AOW part 2. In the comics, I think comic Andrea didn’t do much in AOW part 1 because she was healing from her injuries and was also supporting Rick and Carl.  Already, based on the trailer, Michonne has a plot with Rosita in 8A, and I’m assuming there will be a Richonne moment in ep 1. Plus s8A is not done filming yet too.

idk what’s my point...I just hope Michonne have more storylines because she’s awesome. Also, I hope Michonne have more storylines than comic Andrea’s and hopefully after the war and on, because I feel comic Andrea became less focused in the story. I know that Michonne is not comic Andrea but she is mostly following it right now. I hope Michonne is shown more than comic Andrea and like be tv Michonne is tv Michonne. :)

[wolfwhiteflowers]

So, here’s my thoughts on issue 167. Thoughts about comic Andrea and comic/tv Michonne. Caryl. comic Richonne. etc.

Wow issue 167! One of the biggest issues of the comic series. Andrea died! She died like what anyone hoped for by being surrounded by loved ones in a safe place. The issue was like a movie..written and shown so beautiful and sad. Inspiring and ended in a good note. But, the more I thought about Andrea’s death, I’m like ehhh ofc Kirkman. It was like manpain-death and poor Andrea fans didn’t really get much of Andrea being Andrea. Instead Andrea was mostly pushing Rick to keep going..like it’s all about Rick. I’m surprised it happened. I still don’t know why it happened and why during this part of the story. I guess we will find out more. Seems like it’s unplanned..or bad writing from Kirkman and he wants Rick to bond with widowers-Negan and Dwight. More thoughts of Andrea’s death here.

About TV Michonne...  So, I ship comic Richonne and hope they will become canon. If comic Richonne do become canon, I can see TV Michonne living on as she adapts on comic Michonne. So, with that theory, I kind of think it’s a slim chance to happen. I mean it means that comic Richonne have to be canon and comic Rick and Carl’s stories don’t change much after Andrea’s death. It just depends on the story and the situation. Like what if comic Rick’s story is now about being widower like Negan and they bond, and Rick goes crazy with his leadership. How does that work in the TV show(season 12) and with Michonne? So, that’s why I think it’s a slim chance of tv Michonne living during this part of the story. But, so far I see some posts that changes my mind. Like Andrea’s death could be remixed to anyone (different couple) or no one. In issue 167, we did see comic Richonne bonding already and the issue ended Rick being stable..ready to lead his group again. 

I found this interesting comment from Youtube...

“The thing is they don't need to kill off Michonne. The whole purpose of Andrea dying was to show Rick he can move on without her and keep living, except tv Rick already knows that, he told Michonne himself“

 Also, a lil theory I have.  If TV Michonne does mash up with Andrea(personal/romantic side) and, then later on with the new issues of comic Michonne, then maybe her quote “We’re the ones who live” (based on Andrea’s “We don’t die”) will come up with comic Michonne later on in the comics, but similar and different to it. The quote “We’re the ones who live.” have more meanings than Andrea’s. Maybe comic Michonne will say “Keep living.” Or, something cool. idk lol So far people liked the quote from comic Michonne. “I’ll always be here for you until I’m not.” So, then tv Michonne is saying her quote that goes with comic Andrea’s and comic Michonne’s.

Sigh. I would be so disappointed if TV Michonne dies during this part of the story.(s12) Because then it’s like saying she WAS always following comic Andrea’s all along. ugh. No. Michonne is not comic Andrea. ...she’s MICHONNE. It’s kinda sucks...I just want TV Michonne to be herself. I also hope she doesn’t adapt so much from comic Andrea ..and from after All Out War. (comic Andrea didn’t do much...) Even if the TWD TV show was ending in like s12, then I still don’t want MIchonne to die. Okay..my faves live! 

Caryl doom...Anyways, I believe if the TV writers want to do a death during this part of the story, then it for someone with who fits well with the situation in the story. So, if the TV show is ending soon, then I’m alright with having Carol to die. And, it’s Daryl who is grieving and is like comic-Dwight-pissed-off and mad at Rick (or whoever) then Daryl gets killed too later on. OK I sound contracting. Also my predictions for the next issues of TWD comics, is that Dwight will die too. (Andrea and Dwight’s deaths = Caryl deaths) It’s just one of my theories...that Caryl die at the same..and only toward end of the show like the last season. Because I don’t wanna see one keep living without the other. Also, I think a lot of main characters will die in the end. I don’t think Caryl will live all the to the end-end. Anyways..... :| (idk it could be Rosita who dies there or no one. Remixes from the comics and speculating is hard ok)

About comic Richonne in 167... OMG the talk in issue 167. I wondering about the ‘kitchen talk’ that Richonne had in issue 147 and wondering what Michonne will think of it then. Read my old post here. Callbacks! I really liked Richonne’s talks in 167. It really showed that they’re best friends. TBH, I was kind of surprised Michonne was in it a lot in the issue but she’s next closest person to Rick. They’re “best friends.” Like duh..ok. So I think we will see a lot of comic Richonne like as we usually do or perhaps more. I’m just glad to see them interact and I hope they continue so. Also, about what Michonne said to Rick in 167, is that it reminded me of Negan and Rick’s talk. I think Rick’s fear/guilt ..that about him living when people he care about die before him. Then Michonne said something that Rick needed to hear. It’s a cool callback.

I’m really curious what comic Richonne will do later on. TWD comics are my guilty pleasure..and I really enjoy comic Michonne, the Grimes, and Maggie. I have so many ideas of what might happen later on in the comics. I just have to wait. ahh I think there will be a civil war plot coming and if there is one, I really hope there’s no foreshadowing of the fall of Richonne, but Richonne sticking together.

About shipping comic Richonne... Most of the time I hope for comic Richonne to be together but sometimes I don’t know. I don’t trust Kirkman’s writing much haha. He writes romance weird. I’m afraid hehe will might mess them up and stuff but.. whatever. 

It’s interesting that after issue 167, some comic Richonne shippers or fans who used to read the comics, they really don’t want comic Richonne to happen because they think comic Michonne deserve better and think Kirkman sucks and all that. They don’t want Michonne to be Rick’s second choice.

 I understand what they’re saying and respect that. But, I don’t see it that way... or I don’t think it will happen that way. I hope if comic Richonne happens, it would seem genuine and respectful. So far, I think it’s about Rick and Michonne growing up and getting over their issues on some things . Then they’re ready for love ..this new strong love they can have. I keep thinking about comic Michonne, who went away on a boat and dealt with her guilt and her issues. She came back and had heart to heart chat with Rick and recently in 167. I think comic Michonne’s misery arc~  had ended. I think she doesn’t feel guilty about her daughters. She’s ready now to stay still..and not feel miserable as before. Idk about Rick...he had a good relationship with Andrea, so maybe he will have another good (but more mature) relationship with Michonne, but it will be different and they’ll die old together. Also I hope Michonne to be a mother again. IDK, I have these hopes for Michonne, but TWD comics is Rick’s story. Either way, I hope for good comic Richonne interactions for a long time.

[wolfwhiteflowers]

Some random thoughts on s10/TWD, ships, and spoilers

-10x01 spoilers

-I heard that people with AMC Premiere can watch the show a day or two earlier all season. O_O hide the spoilers. That’s crazy.

I’m hate-watching, so some stuff im confused and complaining for no reason. Also I kinda care about the show/TF and also really care about 4 characters.

From what I read about 10x01 reviews and stuff. I feel a bit weird how it was a lot of Caryl focus. I guess I want more transitions to what it is in the story. (im being picky and this show ain’t perfect). I think what bugs me is that I wish it was more Michonne focused in 10A or a strong focus on her in 10x01 because it’s the last time we see Michonne in 10A. I liked how they did it with her in 9x06. It really shows, she’s the leading character (or one of them). Idk. It’s weird to see Caryl and others...and Michonne & Aaron and others. Like who’s the lead character here...? It starts off with Judith... Idk I mean if Michonne and Grimes kids are still there, then I think the show should still be focusing on that Grimes storyline or Michonne(missing Rick) storyline. Idk what the writers are gonna do when Michonne leaves. Will it show its transition to a spinoff/Caryl show? Idk. I guess I want to see more explaining..and more what’s the main point or message of the show again. The show had changed a lot so the writers should keep telling us what’s the point of the show again and again.. because then overall the show will look more dumb or something. 

-With the shipping stuff. I feel kinda weird how there’s so many Caryl interactions in 10x01 and perhaps all in s10. It’s so drastic compared to s7-9..ukno Caryl doesn’t interact all the time. The show doesn’t do romance well and isn’t the main focus in the show. Anyway, I guess I want to see more explaining why it’s now in s10 for there’s a lot of interactions kind of thing. I gotta see s9 and s10 fanvideos. It helps. I guess Carol really came back to her old self or usual self after s9/fairy tale ended/death of Henry. She finds to be comforted by being with Daryl, after so many years-fairy tale with Zeke and Henry, and then from fishing for a few months. I guess Caryl are like reignited with their bond. They missed each other and still be soulmatey. Yeah I didn’t like s9-Carol because the writers changed her so much and I didn’t understand C/E relationship either. I didn’t like their banter? in s7 and s8 because it came out dry and odd. Like they’re supposed to be snarky-charming? Another thing if the C/E were to be canon or endgame, I would think writers were to focus on that ship and NOT add Caryl sweet moments in s7-9. (that hug and dinner at the creepy house) It messes up the development of C/E. It’s like not surprising C/E broke up but since Kang was showrunner for s9, I wasn’t sure but then I was right. I like my ships develop well and slowly. C/E was rushed. I think Kang/Gimple wanted to add some comic-Michonne stories to her...Carol later broke up Zeke and went away from Kingdom and fished. I was surprised they killed off Henry (and Enid and Tara. Random to me.) but Henry was not Carl. Idk. Another thing is that closure moment? when Carol found young Henry and told her past to Zeke. It was like her misery arc ended. But I also felt it was done too short. It was one episode. Maybe it was a moment for Carol to find comfort in Zeke and start the fantasy? This reminds me of what Tobin said to her before he died. I hope Carol finds peace with this misery-losing kids-arc soon and not end of the series. I think it will be done in s10 ..based on how comic-Michonne’s story went. Now with D0nnie, again if D0nnie happens based from 10x01 or whatever they do, then why did it had so many Caryl scenes. I don’t wanna see a love triangle. I don’t think there will be one since there’s a love square with Rosita already. So again writers might have D0nnie be canon(or not) but still have sweet Caryl moments. I hope writers would really point out that Caryl is only as friends if that is what they are. I feel like they haven’t. I feel like D0nnie ship wasn’t really shippy and didn’t have a lot of scenes. Maybe things will be explained more later in s10. But really though Caryl had that big hug in front of C0nnie and she didn’t seem bothered by it or writers didn’t even show Connie be bothered by it.

...all these opinions, speculations, best to write mine out. :P 

[wolfwhiteflowers]

I’m wondering if there’s a fic (or someone do a fic :P) of Michonne from before Z-Apoc started, to now(s6 or 7).Including moments of her being alone in the woods and meeting Andrea. It’s all in Michonne’s POV and about her being a mother and falling in love again. I kinda also want a moment of her realizing Rick is her love of her life. It’s not her “lover”, Mike who was her bf and Andre’s father. Well, I think what Michonne have now is better than before or almost since her son isn’t with her anymore.