#*twd s9h

[wolfwhiteflowers]

pre s9 TWD finale spoilers/ Carol!

idk what to think of the s9 finale spoilers. lol im like wtf just happened! I told myself to not speculate/assume much till after s9 ends. Because then I’ll see more on what the writers’ are thinking. It’s a lot of changes all at once in s9 in general and finale. that damn winter timejump (AK) I’m hoping after the finale airs, things will make more sense storywise and characterwise. But it’s hard cos of the timejump and lil bits of the spoilers. Also the show is still annoying in some parts. sigh.

~many rambling thoughts

I’m still meh on the writing/the show/still hate-watching (no grimes boy-leads). TWD isn’t always #1 to me and also it went downhill since idk s6, and s9 was just so crazy and a lot of changes. Anyway, I looked at all shippers’ thoughts rn, and I mostly agree with it all about the s9 finale spoilers; just prefer Caryl.

i don’t like that Henry died. But it’s a thought that I had of Henry what it means to Carol and in the show. But it’s like a wrong idea I was suspecting of what the writers were thinking of in s9. I guess Carol is always will be with a kid in her story. idk. Writers had said Henry’s death will change Carol’s story again. Which makes me think of Carol going along like comic-Michonne (again). I wasn’t sure how s9 and on will go because of the other changes going on like mains leaving and stuff. But now I know writers are thinking of Carol and this plot like comic-Michonne, imo. In the comics, Michonne broke up Zeke, Zeke dies from pikes, and then Michonne felt guilty (and then that Rick/Michonne Talk - Caryl talk?) and then Whisperer war. Then Michonne’s like I gotta travel...we later found out she found one of her daughters Elodie (like Rick on the show maybe) which is something I think she’s always longed for, her long arc, reason why she can’t really stay with a man a long time because she can’t get over her daughters being missing. Idk what’s Carol’s or what’s next for her later on. Anyway who knows what will happen with Carol in s10. It was a good theory with the guilt thing about Zeke. Maybe he dies in s10. I was also thinking, writers wanted Carol to be in Kingdom just cos of plot, war, and pikes. Then that plot is done, so ...writers could kill off Henry and Zeke, Kingdom fades away. Carol’s in a new chapter in the story.

I was thinking about C/E and how they became a couple and how it ended it in s10. Like it’s not surprising how rushed they went. First of all, I really didn’t like s8 finale because blaah it didn’t foreshadow s9/one year timejump, it didn’t foreshadow or end character’s past arcs. Carol was just there in the war and fought. No mentions of her with TF and no mentions of C/E either. She went to Kingdom cos Henry asked. Like if u gonna have C/E in s9, why not also add some flirty C/E moment. wtf. So yeah s9 i just only read spoilers, cos it’s way too emotional to watch it and not know much. Like on Rick’s fate, and other changes. whew. It’s not that bad. But there’s some changes I don’t like. Some are just it’s good but too late. Maggie’s exit, sigh. I don’t like that they killed off Jesus, Enid, and Tara. It felt like it’s at a wrong place and time. the pikes scene is weird. I don’t understand the Michonne’s violent arc and why TF is all mad at her. Oh so many random ships omg and timejumps.-AK. So C/E suddenly really are canon in s9 and were engaged/married in s9. Most of their development was offscreen. Like wtf on that. I had expectations on Henry but it went a whole different way. Basically Queen Carol wasn’t really there in s9 like she barely knew much about whisperers, negan, magna’s group. She’s in the background for Plot to happen. To have the Kingdom in action, the pikes to happen. Long hair, elf wear, whatever. Writers still didn’t really develop C/E and Ezekiel as a couple and Zeke as a main character like I would expect if he’s gonna be important. They didn’t. If Zeke’s important like the mains, he shoulda interact with other mains a lot more. Like Rick, Daryl, Michonne in s9. I wasn’t sure what writers will do with Zeke/storywise, but from spoilers, I guess he’s just remain as a supporting character...Kingdom/plot for Carol. In the spoilers, Carol broke up Zeke, it sounds like the troubling in the relationship was offscreen (again) and Carol went to ASZ..away from Kingdom or I think it means Carol will be with TF more again which means she’s more part of the main storyline. Not “Queen Carol” but Carol. It’s gonna be a new chapter, new life for her. But, Idk how s10 will go for sure. 

Carylers are being hopeful and excited about the spoilers of Carol breaking up Zeke and going to ASZ. But the spoiler isnt saying Caryl is gonna happen. Just that Carol is single in ASZ ....with TF. Who knows what’s next. Love triangle or square with Connie? C/E deal with their angst and be back again? I read a theory that Daryl might lead in Hilltop because who’s leading Hilltop? Idt Daryl will do that idk. I was kinda assuming Zeke but who knows. I think Carylers/Carol fans are excited are more about Carol. It’s like Carol’s out of that Kingdom plot and is in ASZ with TF! I guess I mean like Carol from s8 ..or Carol that we knew of for a long time is back. “Queen Carol”; no more.

[wolfwhiteflowers]

sigh idk Scars/Michonne centered ep made me think about how i’m frustrated with the show/s9 all over again.

I’m ranting and it’s probably dumb cos it probably make more sense after s9 and like to watch the episodes. :P 

s9B spoilers!

*Carol and Michonne

The thing is I have high expectations and a different expectations on the ep 14/Michonne and how s9 ends like for the Grimes/main story goes. So far it’s not going the way I wanted to go (or maybe some parts in ep 15&16.)

I don’t understand why writers add this crazy violent angst(meshed up all of Carol’s angsts throughout the show’s in 2 episodes) storyline to Michonne who is already super sadz alone without Rick and raising 2 kids. It’s like they’re messing up Michonne’s storyline and Carol’s too in s9, IMO. I don’t understand their arcs this season and what’s next for them. It’s like the writers didn’t plan ahead. I also don’t know why they added random details to Michonne’s story. So, in s9 and in two eps. she met her College friend and something about her mom, and killing kids. These are big details added to Michonne’s story now, but it’s like why?...what’s next till the end. Michonne does this and that and everything and finally reunites Rick. But is she still Michonne/comic Michonne...? if u get it.

Sigh yeah there’s so many changes in s9/Kang with the characters. I hope TWD ends when they’re still in-character.

 Why did writers have Michonne go through that super violent experience? And it didn’t explain why TF is so against her now. / Why Carol Peletier is still stuck in Kingdom away from TF and just now learning about dumb Henry’s been missing.  I also think we haven’t have a solo scene of just Carol showing us what’s she’s been through lately and what she’s thinking. if u get it...she feels like a side character (I’m way more interested in Michonne rn). Oh and from spoilers, that Henry dies which again is messing up Carol’s arc imo. Repeating her pain again for the fifth time, why? (read my other *twd posts) I really thought the “losing a child” arc ended with Henry/Lintz kid. He’s even part of comic-Carl’s arc. (wtf are they doing with Lydia then?)

Then like the finale or the whole 9B is about the fair and it’s like TF is mad at Michonne but wtf about the part of 9A where TF didn’t want to unite and build the bridge? Why is Zeke wanting the fair to happen? He really needed trade now? That’s how to unite communities? 

I’m like stuck. I just want the show to still be good and be better. TWD dragging it out and sucking. Stop with the weird writing and changes. :| (well it’s Kang’s show so. boom, changes.)

i look forward to the movies but I don’t even know how those movies go and how the movie + show’s next seasons go. 

I just want this story to finish soon and to finish strong with a happy ending!

[wolfwhiteflowers]

end of s9/Carol with TF

its been such a wild 3 days of learning about this finale spoiler on C/E breakup. I realized in fandom it’s full of shipper stans. the spoiling forum lol is all gloom which means they don’t care about caryl/ers. And how i see based on writings and signs, sometimes wait for answers or that’s (new) showrunners’ style. like what i kinda suspected, C/E broke up like whatever in a rush cos they got together in a rush too. It’s all for plot. And Im excited to have Carol in Kingdom plot to end. Carol to be with Team Family/ interact with Daryl and Michonne more. Carol being part of the main storyline more hopefully.

yet idk what to think on TWD/”spinoff” show. TWD still shoulda ended in s8 or earlier and it’s still kinda weird with Caryl as last two OGs ..and if they get together, there’s no Rick and Carl and others there. It still isn’t really TWD. Well I’m mainly hoping for team family, Caryl, in the RG movies and see Richonn3 reunite.

Still gonna be invested in the story by reading filming/ep spoilers. :D Caryl on.

ps. whatever may be until filming starts, May?, I can be all :D on Caryl and enjoy what we got, fanart, and be hopeful. 

[wolfwhiteflowers]

9B thoughts and #Finale SPOILERS

hate-watching-ish the show. I’m mainly for Caryl, Aaron, Grimes 3.0.

Since I learned that Henry will most likely die in s9 finale, idc much about s9B. What is Carol and Daryl gonna do that will interest me? I don’t think any big changes happen to them in 9B except that Henry dies. Idk what Carol will do. Zeke still lives so then I wait till s10. Grimes stuff is cool but they’re not shown in it a lot anymore. I’m curious what’s ep 14 about; the Michonne ep. But yeah this saddens me. Idc anymore. They totally changed Carol and it doesn’t make sense and then left her out of the Team Family as usual. And why kill her fifth child? wtf.

i don’t like how CE ship being canon makes Carylers be like shitty people in a day. Suddenly “we’re racist, we’re for cheating, don’t know Carol-not stans of her.” like wtf. It’s the writers that made Carol suddenly with Zeke and stuff. Whatever. These (any) stans/fans are so judgemental ...I avoid them anyway. It sucks that some are R-shippers. Anyway, I miss Carol.

So yeah, I don’t watch the show. But I’m still interested in it in some ways because the characters are still in-character, RG still lives, some stuff is still good. Wait till things turn around I guess. Idk how RG movies will go either. Sigh, I just wish the show ended in s8.

ps. so in 9x09, Rosita revealed she’s pregnant. It’s just like in the comics, so then she’ll die from the pikes scene in Finale or not? hmm. Maybe s10 premiere. Rosita and Zeke are one of the big ones that die from the Pikes scene in the comics. But t$df said it’s not them. 🤨

[wolfwhiteflowers]

So I read some spoilers about 9x11. I’m really disappointed how (spinoff / tfd twd)TWD is going and for my ships/TF. 😕🤮😒💤  #twd spoilers!

And with knowing how s9 finale will go with about Henry possibly dying. I’m like this is a waste of time and really hurting the TWD main storyline or agenda in this spinofflike show. They don’t know what to do with Kingdom people. They’re just looking for items and walker kills. zzzz Like “hey Henry’s in jail, btw”. Remember Kingdom is from TWD story.

I also read there’s romantic scenes between C/E and Daryl/Connie. idk if the site is biased but 🙄 . And also wtf another rushed ship, yay. those fans predicted before seeing it, theyre such shippers. Also, it’s hard to believe cos Daryl doesn’t get close with someone a lot and it’s been 9 seasons. Slow burn makes sense. So, maybe another 9 seasons Caryl or “Donni3″ will happen.

I just Idc about the show anymore. They’re messing up the main cast. We need more consistent supporting characters. But it also feels too late. Like Eugene, Tara, Rosita, Gabe, I’m like meh. Aaron I like a lot but they push him in the background a lot. And the show is not the Grimes girls either and Michonne (and kids) will leave anyway in early s10.

So, I hope the TWD movies go better and the main/Rick’s story ends well. 🗯😐😥

[wolfwhiteflowers]

Here’s some thoughts, rants, and wank about the possible Henry spoiler in s9 finale that I wrote on a forum. vvvv

*TV/Comic spoilers, anti C/E

Wow those spoilers on Henry. Well first TSDF aren't sure yet. Idk what to think of it. I want him to live and also assumed he will live because that's Carl 2.0 arc and I felt writers really specialized Henry with Carol saving him and we see him aged up six years older. But Henry isn't really Carl 2.0, he got parts of comic Carl's arc. Judith got some of Carl's arcs too (like one day being a leader). I can see how writers would kill off Henry because of that Lydia/whisperer arc is already used up. But, I'm so tired of Carol losing kids. And, the Henry(Carl)/Lydia arc isn't really over because of the whisperer war is coming. But after that war, who knows. Henry can be like in the background too. He doesn't have to die. Another thing is, it's getting harder to speculate with the comics because the show is more different now and also catching up to the comics.

If they killed off Henry and Zeke, it's like the whole Carol's arc that relates to the Kingdom, is gone.(kinda like how Kingdom faded in the background in the comics) ...and writers focus on Judith and use comic Carl's arcs with her. Well I hope Henry lives.

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It does look like a start of a ship war (when discussion with fans). Im just saying Henry bonds with carol, zeke, and Daryl. And Lydia. C/e are his parents but Caryl are one of the leading characters which more fans care about them. The spoiler is about Henry's possible death ...but it could be both/ or zeke's death because we know Caryl are safe. Yeah idk usually death speculation posts comes off hate posts. I kinda feel bad for zeke fans because people care MORE about carol's and Daryl/arc than zeke and zeke's fatherhood. But writers made it that way.. It's like "I care about Henry and ___ than ___. " So it's gonna be a rough read if you hope they all live... But this is a Henry-might-die post. Idk what I'm saying anymore lol I want Henry to live than zeke(***his death is also expected because of the comics) because of Carol’s arc with kids and I like Henry/the kid with the Carl arc because it brings meaning to the show, I think. Idk I'll say zeke fans don't read these threads and look for final answers on who will really die. Or anyone who wants to avoid fandom wank.

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Oh, I didn't notice that these spoilers are about ep 15. hmm I'm gonna think Henry gets stabbed and then it's a cliffhanger.

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Maybe it's hard to find filming spoilers on switcherio moments in the show? Idk. It could be AK wanting to kill off the kingdom/ storyline.

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Sigh. Idk what to think of it. It’s likely Henry will die in ep 15/16 and Idk why writers want to do that. They used Henry to sell a part of comic-Carl’s plot and then throw it away. They are using the same old Carol-lose-a-kid plot again and why? It’s too overdone. And for Daryl’s arc too. But I’m hate-watching-ish. But still it annoys me. :[

Also TSDF think Zeke will live (and Rosita) and well first I’m gonna speculate him and Rosita will die soon till after the Whisperer war arc ends (s10?). But it will be interesting if Zeke lives but that just disappoints me in a writing-way. They still gonna have Zeke be like one of those supporting characters that Idc. If he’s gonna live and be important in the show, then writers really need to develop him more and make C/E more sense. Tell me and show me why Caryl are only gonna be friends. Ep 7 didn’t help. Well maybe if Zeke doesn’t die from Alpha’s pikes and if his character still isn’t developed and interacts with main characters, then maybe he dies like comic-Andrea’s. Idk. I feel there is more hints toward Zeke’s death than Henry’s, but maybe I’m wrong or writers changed their mind. 

[wolfwhiteflowers]

my thoughts rn after ep 3 aired and rick’s final ep coming soon. 

I’m holding it all in all week im like dslkfjlafj. 

So ep 3 aired already and it’s another good TF episode ofc but its like “too late” There was some Carick scene and a lot of good Richonne/family moments!

It’s cool to see the Richonne family scene and Richonne acting lovely dovely domestic because war is over. But it’s like feels forced in a way that ....it’s not them being settled in peacefully (and TF moments too) but it like makes me think it’s because it’s Rick’s last times. So whatever it’s “too late”. I feel kinda weird seeing so much R/M/J moments. We don’t see family moments often from them (this show smh)...and usually Carl is with Judith. Anyways, my headcanon is Carl isn’t dead, he’s moved out of home to Hilltop to be a blacksmith apprentice (comics). It’s a reason why he’s not with R/M/J that much. Carl’s adulting.

The war is over. Richonne is ready for a baby! I hope it happens but spoilers haven’t mentioned about it much, unfortunately. I think if it didn’t happens omg shippers are gonna be confused and pissed. I’m fine with deleted scenes..as long they appear in DVDs. But I heard the sex scene-ish was longer and there’s even ILU moment in it? OMG noooo I just want a final sweet ILU Richonne scene. If they deleted that scene and it’s the final one, then I’m even more disappointed on this show. I hope there’s one scene where it’s an intimate ILU scene between Richonne before he goes. Or give me a fanart of it, pls.

So ep 4 is coming soon and then ep 5. Idk what to do about it. I see spoilers and I try to avoid them but eh. I kinda know what’s going on. I just don’t knoooooow what to do. Either way I’m gonna be sad. If he’s dead or missing, it still means TWD is like done..no more Rick Grimes. I hope he goes missing and is in Commonwealth etc. because wtf TWD is Rick. I want happy endings. Idk. Some articles are hinting on this and I just eh hope it’s not trolling. Fandom is emotional and sensitive rn. Yeah... I hope it’s like he goes missing and then like some day the series finale comes, Rick Grimes reunite with his family.

I noticed the ep4 sneak peek on Carick. OMG ... It’s sad. Carick bro times (finally and AL mentioned Carick eh FEELS and it’s ‘too late’ argh) and this dumb plot where TWD players/TF reject Rick’s/Carl’s plan on keeping the group together = the bridge. blah blah drama. I like this plot idea but I wish it’s the other way or whatever. I had this idea from s8 where TF come together to save Rick.  So eh that’s not gonna happen..that’s when after Rick’s leaves. Like that’s the same plot with Carl..I mean I’ve been calling the last Rick’s episodes “AOW pt2″ or “Carl’s dreams pt 2.”

I just ...eh. :( I can’t wait when ep 5 airs and a week later. The whole promotion (x100 cos TWD is a huge franchise) on Rick’s leaving is done with and we finally move on with it. Then Idk fans gonna brace the grieving depressing TWD show. wtf MIchonne and Judith tho. If Rick goes missing and it’s open ended. Idk I hope then Michonne is like “ok im crazy.....I still believe Rick is alive.” where others believe he’s dead.Then she goes on a boat or travel and finds Rick (similar to the comics where she finds Elodie.) 

Oh btw, I’m like asldkfjl; I’m loving the tv-Richonne in s9 and comic-Richonne being like similar. It’s cool so far. Different time in the story and different situations but really guys it’s interesting. Laws and stuff. I hope comic-Richonne don’t become enemies but rule the world together. 

I want to make a Carick fanvid. But i suck at this and :( ...I don’t think others care about it much but maybe I make one after ep 5. Because i take forever making one. But like whatever if some cares maybe they can find it and watch it, if i make one. Or someone make one! :P 

..yeah s9 ‘rick’s ep.s’ im here for carick and richonne/fam. ofc, caryl.

[wolfwhiteflowers]

TWD rant - not watching the R’s last five episodes (ep1-5). (i already ranted this)

-twd spoilers

So the early reviews of s9 are out and teasers, are all just reminding me again how it’s all SIGH disappointing/frustrating-interesting plots and missed opportunities. It sounds like Rick’s last five episodes will be great.

Pro-  A lot on the Grimes family/Richonn3, TF, time-jump stuff, world building. It’s disappointing because I was looking forward to the time-jump stuff based on the comics and it’s a whole new arc in the show but it all will go downhill fast.

Con- But I don’t think...I don’t wanna watch those episodes (and rest of s9) because I know Rick will die/departs..from the bridge (probably foreshadowed in five eps), Carol with E, Carol not with TF or just knowing those few Carick scenes are the last time, whatever drama Maggie and Daryl will do-stressing on the TF, and yeah...it’s like ukno writers are all rushing and cramming all Rick & TF moments into five episodes. When they coulda done it right since s6-ish. Also that the show isn’t ending with Rick. 

It’s all too much emotionally to see that. My point is that it’s hard to decide to watch it or see all these reviews and teasers. Uh ...oh well, me. ...I gotta stop reading into too much on these reviews/teasers. :]

-there’s always Netflix, gif sets, youtube. .... and crying...and fan art/fictions. sigh in time, i’ll be alright. :]