CS55 - Fathers and Sons
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As I mentioned in my initial post his relationship and dynamic with his father is intriguing to me, honestly all the father-son relationships within the Formula racing series are. Firstly, since we do not have his birth time, I want to read the dynamics for both a night and day chart since we do not know his rising. Then we can see from each description which dynamic we see most.
𖤓 If he were a day chart (Sun in Houses 1-6) we would look at the Sun to see the father-son relationship.
ִֶָ࣪☾. If he were a night chart (Sun in Houses 7-12) we would look at Saturn.
Carlos has his Sun in Virgo and a Saturn Pisces. Using the Pullen Astrology method, it housed his Sun in the 11th house and his Saturn in the 5th. Making his first house - Scorpio like Leclerc. (Is Carlos a Scorpio rising though?). So because of this I'm feel more pulled to the night chart aspect first.
For this part 1, I will speak on his Saturn placement.
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Firstly, What/Who is Saturn? Saturn within our charts is a generational planet so, the sign it is in does not weigh as heavily in importance as much as where it's housed in. This placement lets us know where we may see lessons (karmic or otherwise) and restrictions in our life. Hence, why where Saturn is stationed we see delays as we traverse through our lessons. It also gives insight to our relationship and dynamics with our fathers/ authority figures. I believe this is due to the nature of Saturn, he is teaching us lessons here so until we are confident in ourselves we defer our authority to another. But as each Saturn Return nears and passes, if we have put in the work we see a slow reclamation of our authority back. Many claim Saturn subtracts so depending on the house it's in, it may be beneficial or harmful. But in my experience, wherever it is stationed in your chart is where you need discipline within yourself. Because there are many aspects and placements within our chart that mitigate the malefic ones we have and vice versa, there is no one placement that's the culprit of your circumstance. Please keep in mind a natal chart is an energy map of what we are given to work with in this life and, once you're aware you can use it to your advantage by working with it than against.
What does Saturn Retrograde (Rx) mean? Typically, a retrograde planet brings a more introspective dynamic to it. The native turns the planet's energy inward rather than out. But Saturn Rx indicates issues with the father. This is not emotional or physical absence that we see when Saturn is in the 8th or 12th house. But more so, a conflict or a falling out with one's father that may come later in life. It does not have to be severe but there may be conflict from which a change arises. ex. Changing your relationship dynamics with your Dad if they're overbearing - you may set boundaries and take back control or your father falling out of favour in your eyes due to cheating/an action etc.
Saturn in the 5th House? The 5th house is all about fun, creativity, and children. With Saturn in Sainz’s 5th house, there’s likely a sense of restriction around fully embracing these areas. It can feel like an internal battle to let loose and express joy or creativity, as if he had to grow up too quickly or take on more responsibility early on. Saturn, often seen as the father, may represent his actual father’s legacy, making it harder for him to feel free in his self-expression, as if he needed to be more of a man than a child to live up to his father's expectations. This placement may bring partners who are emotionally unavailable, prone to substance abuse or other tendencies that may create a toxic relationship. People with this placement often feel they must prove themselves worthy of love, creativity and joy, holding back until they feel secure, which can lead to imposter syndrome. This may manifest as hiding their creative endeavours from others until they feel confident in its or their success in it to share with others. This placement may also suggest wanting fewer children or waiting until later in life to start a family. There are so many more interpretations because this is a joyous house, but I'll keep it until here for now.
Saturn in Pisces? Here, we see an interesting contrast between Saturn and Pisces. Saturn is all about authority, rules, and structure, while Pisces is more fluid and free-spirited, with one foot in reality and the other in a dream world. Pisces doesn’t follow strict boundaries like Saturn does—it prefers to blur the lines and go with the flow. Think of it this way, where Saturn sees and imposes fences, lines and boundaries, Pisces is aware there is nothing which can keep it in within any 4 walls. It will traverse where it desires, and must go.
When you mix Saturn with Pisces, especially in retrograde, it softens Saturn's usual strictness. Instead of rigid rules, this combination brings a more flexible and intuitive approach to responsibility. It’s still Saturn, but hazy, allowing for a deeper, more fluid pervasiveness of being in one's life.
So what does this all mean for Sainz Jr.? Carlos seems to have known restraint from a young age, whether it was controlling his desire to play, managing his temper, or staying disciplined with his responsibilities. Saturn in his 5th house speaks to this internalized self-control, which he has likely carried throughout his life. In an article even the writer clearly sees this as he explains, "In fact, the impression is that Carlos is more reserved about everything, including his frustrations.” Now, if other planets, like the Moon, were present in this house, it could highlight specific dynamics—like wanting to indulge in fun and parties, but ultimately feeling content alone. But Saturn is alone. When it comes to his father, I see him as a constant, yet subtle, force. His father’s presence seems to envelop all aspects of his life (this is the nebulous nature of Pisces)—personal, familial, and professional—blurring the lines between Carlos as an individual and Carlos Sainz Jr., the son of a legacy. This isn’t a harsh or domineering relationship, though; rather, it’s a responsibility Carlos feels he’s accepted. He’s not just a boy carving his own path but someone who will naturally grow into the man his father is, possibly surpassing him, without getting distracted by unnecessary pleasures. His father, being represented by Pisces, likely expresses love and kindness, but still serves as an authority figure—a guiding hand that never fully lets go.
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Okay now to the fun part! This is where if anyone doubts astrology or the power of a saturn return have them read this.
Up until late 2023, Sainz's journey through F1 was solid and well-paced. From Toro Rosso to Renault, then McLaren, and finally landing a coveted seat at the Prancing Horse, it was clear his trajectory was always on the rise. With multiple podium finishes and his ability to support his teammate’s success while securing his own, Ferrari had every reason to keep him on board until they were ready to promote talent from their feeder leagues. His strategic thinking, demonstrated again at Monza, and calm under pressure made him a key asset. Yet, despite his strong performance, Sainz found himself without a seat—at the very moment when he’s achieving greater heights.
So what happened? His Saturn Return.
This turning point coincides with Saturn’s return to his natal Pisces, signaling a time of transition. Saturn's transit through the 5th house is often marked by endings—whether in relationships, careers, or personal chapters—as it challenges the individual to find their limits and redefine them. For many, this transit brings about a painful but necessary breaking point, especially in long-term relationships or roles. It's as if Saturn strips away what no longer serves, forcing growth through struggle and laying the groundwork for your next 6 to 17 years.
In Sainz’s case, the signs are unmistakable. Since Saturn re-entered Pisces on March 7, 2023, he has experienced a series of shifts—breaking up with his long-term girlfriend, Isabel Hernandez, who, fittingly, is a Pisces herself. His search for a seat in a series he's been in since 2015. Alongside these changes, Sainz quietly ventured into new endevours, like the opening of his burger restaurant, suggesting he is planting seeds for life outside of racing. He had appendicitis around March 6-8, 2024. while Saturn Rx in Pisces opposed his Virgo Sun and Mercury (Virgo's planetary ruler is mercury). There was also a pluto cross to his uranus which typically in medical astrology foretells a medical emergency/ailment to watch out for and pluto was crossing his mercury too.
Essentially, areas where things were easy before have become exponentially harder for him. And, Carlos during this time may find himself measuring his worthiness to allow joy or fun by how much he's accomplished or got done so far.
There’s undoubtedly more going on with Sainz, but this is the nature of Saturn’s return. Saturn continues to demand to see if you have mastered his lessons, and at every turn there is a new question, you must answer to satisfy him. To which I think so far Carlos has.
Carlos Sainz’s move to Williams in 2025 feels like the start of something new, both for him and the team. In that famous GQ piece by Tom Lamont, Ferrari was compared to Saturn, the god who “devours his own sons,” a haunting reference to the tragic deaths of Ferrari drivers under Enzo’s leadership. The parallel with Carlos is hard to miss—his father’s influence always looming, and now he’s stepping away from Ferrari, which in many ways has been F1’s Saturn. (Is this a foreshadow of what's to come with his own father?)
After eight years of working his way up to Ferrari, this shift to Williams begs the question: has Carlos mastered his Saturn return, breaking free to carve out his own path, or has Ferrari, like Saturn, consumed him in the process? Moving to Williams might be his chance to break free from the pressure of legacy and expectations, and find a new, more personal direction in his career—one where he can build something fresh. But this too carries the weight of Saturn’s lessons, where the struggle and loss lead to eventual mastery—or the acceptance of limitations.
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I have never met Sainz and probably will not in the future. But he reminds me of a bull, resolutely toiling away, responsible and accountable in his role of what he must do. It is quite melanchlonic because I want to ask are you happy, or are you happy because this is all you know...all you've ever done?
‧₊˚ Thank you for reading, I know it's a long read but I hope it was worth it! If you have any drivers you'd like me to do a piece on or any aspects, please send me an ask or even on this post. And, I will be happy to research. ‧₊˚
