#technoblade negative

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/rp

i will write a better character relationship and morals analysis when im not rushing to get ready for a party, however in light of the techno tommy betrayal argument getting resparked by today i’m gonna put out a hot (and based) take:

tommy saying he betrayed techno isn’t character growth, nor is it him ‘finally realizing what he did wrong’. it’s showing that his character is regressing to doubting himself and what he stands for. and it’s showing that wilbur and quackity are both bad options for his safety. 

while i do agree that, on a fundamental standpoint, that tommy betrayed techno i think he was in the right for doing so. if he were to stay with techno he would’ve sided with everything he was against, he would’ve destroyed his home and his connection to wilbur (something he still cares deeply about), he would’ve ruined his relationship with tubbo (another person he cares deeply about) permanently, and on a writing standpoint it would’ve been bad. it would’ve sucked to see tommy spend all of the pogtopia arc fighting against destroying l’manberg only to have him be hurt by that same country and decide “nope time to destroy it now wilbur was right!”. while this then gets kind of ruined by doomsday happening and l’manberg dying, that’s a separate anlaysis. 

what i’m getting at here is rather than admitting that he betrayed techno because it was for his own safety, aka something he needs to start prioritizing, he says simply that he betrayed techno and he’s guilty for it. tommy was VERY focused on the idea of where he would safest when deciding between wilbur and quackity. so to have tommy say he was in the wrong for prioritizing his safety and then try to pick where he will be safest it’s showing that tommy has a very skewed sense of safety and that neither wilbur nor quackity are safe options for him right now. whether that will change in the future for either of them is up in the air, but at this moment, wilbur and quackity are both using tommy as a one-up over the other because they know he means a lot to both of them. 

tommy saying he betrayed techno and he’s guilty for it shows that he still doesn’t fully know how to put himself and his well being first. that wasn’t ‘character growth’ or ‘admitting his faults’, it was showing the viewers that tommy still isn’t emotionally stable enough to be in the situation he’s in now.

[impulsive-fantasylander]

When will people get it trough their head that one of the reasons some people dont like C!Philza or C!Techno being absolute dickwads and destroying everything isn't because of morality it is just because it is simply not enjoyable to watch

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“i organized a syndicate that watches over the server to ensure there is no more corruption. if i find corruption i will destroy it” and “i don’t know anything about Corruption Man or why he’s in the Corruption Jail” are not statements that can mutually exist, techno

[mcmoth]

The syndicate are actually just a bunch of boomers 😐 they be like: "we gotta destroy the government! 😡", bitch, what government?? 😂 all that's left is ruins and an 😏 EGG🥚 Get with the times already 🙄 /hj

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the idea of c!wilbur yelling at and berating c!techno’s ideas is SO enticing. just ripping into him that yeah c!wilbur destroyed l’manberg because he was suffering, he wanted to destroy himself and l’manberg was a part of him so it had to go as well. but c!techno destroyed it because it had the word “government” stuck on the front of it, and because he was “betrayed” by the president becoming the president again. i love the concept of that scene so much

actual execution of it will make me want to rip my hair out. watching cc!wilbur “i put the spirit of jeb himself into my roleplaying” soot try to have a serious, heartfelt and INCREDIBLY important scene with cc!techno “i am going to use these 700k viewers who are here for lore to self-promote and thus also promote on wilburs stream” blade will make me scream. 

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i really love tommy and wilbur’s lore streams, both og l’manberg era and current era, because they both do a really good job of making it really casual. like they don’t really monologue at chat, and if they do it feels very casual. they’re both pretty much always in character (tommy’s broken character very obviously a few times but always gets back into it, and every time wilbur’s broken character it’s for a very short time and he pulls it together again very fast). there’s definitely been a learning curve where around pogtopia era when it became less “the cc’s doing bits” and “the ccs roleplaying characters” where they had to kind of take it more serious, but over all their lore streams are always so nice. there’s no “okay im doing lore now!” or anything like that.

tubbo and ranboo’s always feel a bit clunky to me but i still like them. ranboo has a bad habit of just monologuing but some people think it works, just not me personally. ranboo is REALLY good about staying in character too! tubbo you can tell isn’t a big fan of the roleplaying aspect but he still plays into it and doesn’t ruin it for others which is nice.

which gets me to why i just...really hate how techno does lore streams. there’s so many jokes about viewership and money and the amount of times he points out how its lore. like techno, as a character, will point to the story and tell the audience its there. and its very awkward to watch. its always “hey this is a stream. this is a story and im doing lore right now. im streaming lore on the dream smp on youtube right now” and it just makes me feel like im watching a middle school play. ironically i think the early pogtopia era streams where people were like “hah techno doesnt roleplay” was where he had the best roleplay.

i think the transition to having dedicated lore streams was a good idea, dont get me wrong. i like that i know if its a stream i really need to rewatch because it was integral lore, versus a stream where its mostly just worldbuilding or just straight up the CCs messing around. but honest to god lazarbeam did lore streams better when he showed up at tommys exile than technos latest lore streams.

[testingcheats0n]

Hey remember when Technoblade was supposed to care about Ghostbur and then Phil called him an empty doll and Technoblade didn't say anything to defend him or the things he held dear? I do. I suppose he wasn't as deserving of kindness as *insert literal animal* was.