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thaw!dapduo enneagram analysis

-thaw!slime 

in my mind, thaw!slime is a 7w8. this can be proven by looking at all of the instances of him in the story, as well as using the presence of charlie being expected to be an unhealthier, less stable version of him as a way to assume how slime himself would act if put under stress.

7’s stance is aggressive, which means that he moves against others and focuses on what he wants/needs. thaw!slime isn’t afraid to speak for his own interests, as seen by how he threatens soot when he thinks that he had killed quackity. he wanted revenge, and he wasn’t afraid to go after it.

his triad is head/fear triad; the head triad is how one goes about navigating what they view as a dangerous world. in the e7’s case, they distract themselves from harsh realities by keeping themselves constantly moving and focused on other things we see this particularly with thaw!charlie when he tries to distract himself from all the changes he’s going through with the festival, but it can be presumed that thaw!slime would do this too, considering how similar the ccs are to their characters.

e7s disintegrate to 1s when under stress, and this can also be seen in charlie "becoming" more critical of people, including quackity, as well as him acting more pessimistic and anxious over things, and him working so hard to avoid (disintegrating 7) and, eventually, find solutions to (fully disintegrated to 1) his points of anxiety.

harmonics are how people go about handling conflict. in slime’s case, he is a positive harmonic. those in the positive harmonic put emphasis on bringing light and avoiding negativity, and prefer making everything okay again. i will go into more depth about e7’s particular positive harmonic in the tritype section.

object relations are how we are affected by particular wounds. his is frustration, which is about the frustration that one feels at not getting their needs met. this will also be delved deeper into in the tritype section.

with ego structures, which are conscious fears, choices and motivations. for the e7, this is constantly planning what should happen and getting frustrated when it doesn’t.

additionally, there are trap structures, which are things that the type does too much of. tying into the ego structure, idealism is the trap that e7s fall into, constantly planning how the future should ideally go, and being disappointed when their perfect plan doesn’t turn out perfectly, then starting all over again.

there’s also passions, which are desires that unconsciously tempt the types. for e7s, this is gluttony, which causes them to be scattered and excessive because they’re constantly searching for pleasure, so they’re prone to going too far into the pleasureful side of life and not enough on the less fun parts.

now here’s a list of some attributes from the e7’s trait structure that i think fit for thaw!slime/charlie: open-mindedness, hedonism, laid back attitude towards others, rebellious, but still very diplomatic to authority, anti-conventional, more connected to ideals than reality, repression of pain and refuge in pleasure, belief in one’s own wisdom, persuasive, smoothness hiding aggression, persona hiding their anxiety

i also think that thaw!slime has a 721 tritype. this tritype is also known as the people-focused one/the enthusiast.

it has a double positive harmonic (7 + 2). 2 makes him focus on the good in others and himself and amplifying it, for example, how he naturally thinks the best of quackity, and how he managed to see the good in foolish, even when he had lady death’s mantle and was incredibly cruel. 7 is him actively avoiding negativity by using momentum from fun experiences, focusing instead on the playful and fun thoughts, so as to avoid the frustrations he feels with the world. again, this can be seen with thaw!charlie trying to distract himself with the festival, or by focusing on the beauty of the city, to avoid his thoughts and worries about the changes he’s been through.

he is also double frustration object relations (7 + 1). frustration stems from not getting needs met. in object relations, the frustration of 7 means that he seeks the need of comfort and stability through exciting experiences that are shallow enough that he doesn’t have to deal with anything too complex or difficult. and for a 1, the frustration type entails that he protects himself from the frustration of people not following the rules by becoming the ultimate authority on what’s right and wrong. we can see this first in thaw!charlie with his obsession with everyone following the rules, and how he immediately points out to glatt how he shouldn’t be in las nevadas, which feels very much like something that thaw!slime would do too. we can also see a glimpse of this in how he’s genuinely confused over why the others wouldn’t be comfortable with quackity’s diet because in his mind, this is completely moral and allowed, since that’s what slimes do too. his morals are absolute, and he can't understand why people wouldn't follow the same rules he does.

his tritype’s stance is double dependent/compliant (2 + 1), which also is very relevant. for example, he follows the rules and social standards. even if it’s not what he wants, it’s what he considers to be right. he also focuses a lot more on others’ needs rather than his own, as seen through thaw!charlie “lying” to not concern quackity about why he’s acting so off, as well as by thaw!slime himself, with how he was willing to stay in his quackity form to hug thaw!charlie for as long as he possibly could, just to comfort his kin.

-thaw!quackity

in contrast, thaw!quackity is an 8w7, which, as you may notice, the type is just an inversion of thaw!charlie’s 7w8. so what’s the difference?

well, while they definitely share traits of each other, for example, both dislike being controlled and are fairly rebellious in nature, though e8s are more outwardly rebellious and naturally distrust any authority, while e7s are much more diplomatic with authority and dislike hierarchies regardless of where they stand in them. e8s also care far more about having power in things, while e7s don’t care for power as long as they have freedom (sound familiar? ;])

the wings indicate that they share some traits, for example, the e7s with 8 wings are more intense and bold than their 7w6 counterparts, and 8w7s are far more active and aggressive than that of 8w9s, but are still ultimately more of the former type than the latter.

quackity’s tritype is an 863. this is a double aggressive stance, double attachment object relations, and double reactive harmonics. slime has one aggressive type in his tritype, that being his core e7, so he’s assertive in his right to have fun, happy experiences, while e8s are assertive in setting their personal boundaries and e3s are just more aggressive in reaching their goals. thaw!slime has a double compliant stance, while quackity has one compliant type in his tritype, which is the e6. again, this is the one compliant type that slime doesn’t have in his tritype, just like how the only aggressive type thaw!quackity didn’t have in his tritype was a 7. e6s focus on building a secure environment for themselves and others, while e2s find security in meeting others’ needs before their own, and e1s find security in following the rules.

for object relations, quackity is double attachment, while slime is double frustration. slime becomes the ultimate guiding force for things and chases exciting things so that he feels more secure in his place in things, while thaw!quackity does whatever he can and acts however he needs to to get unlimited adoration and love from others (3), and also creates plans and maps to the detriment of his own inner faith (6) (think: how he second guessed his gut feeling with the second ram).

despite all the differences, e7 and e8s are actually very similar enneatypes, they’re both aggressive types, as stated before, and are visionary types who aren’t afraid to engage in conflict (even if to different extents). also, their passions are incredibly similar, with e7’s being gluttony, and e8’s being lust, both of which have to do with an excess of something that is good when in moderation. and finally, both dislike feeling controlled by others and their expectations. 

hopefully this all makes sense, and thank you for making it to the end, let me know if you have any questions ^^

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"A Deer Mistaking Candles for Headlights" by Crywank for tHAW!Quackity

this song can be listened to with manberg!quackity in mind, so i'm going to analyze that now

(under the cut is a lyrical breakdown of this song for quackity)

“You could call me a coward and you'd be correct/ Oh, my neck is safely off the line now/ I'm keeping my mouth shut until this is over/ Why bother speaking my mind?”

just a note before we get into this, this is an unreliable narrator analysis, aka: i'm not actually calling quackity a coward or any or these things, but i think he would call himself these things when thinking of himself at that time.

with that out of the way, quackity almost never stood up for himself or others when he was in manberg. and when he did weakly protest against tubbo's execution, schlatt punished him severely for it. he was never safe enough to speak his mind back then, but he still hates himself for not doing so more. hence the theme of deep self-loathing for one’s own passivity that is seen throughout this song.

“You can call me a liar and that would be true/ Though I do disagree, I don't challenge you/ I am docile and lazy, I show no respect/ You can call me a coward and you'd be correct”

this entire song is basically the embodiment of the fawn response, and quackity definitely went through his fair share of fawn responses during manberg, where he was forced to go along with things he would never normally go along with, in order to keep himself more safe, and avoid any more dangerous confrontations from arising. The ram expected him to give up his self-respect (hence the 'i show no respect' line) in order to give Him more ‘respect’ (even though it was more just forced obedience, since respect should go both ways), and the singer here is talking about how much they don’t like the fact that they feel so obligated to forget themselves for someone else, out of fear that something bad would happen if they were to stray from this expected method of behaviors. and that very much what quackity went through while he was in manberg. and he hates how pathetic that whole experience made him feel, both for how the ram treated him, and how he had to treat others in order to protect himself.

“Distant but rational/ Bringer of rage/ To get to a level where I will engage/ I am a tentacle, incapacitated obstacle/ I am obsolete and apathetic/ Thoughtlessly apologetic./ Watch my actions -or lack the thereof/ Negate the person that I said I was”

manberg!quackity would always take responsibility for things that weren't his fault, to the point where it just seemed like second nature to him to apologize; even now, quackity still has to stop himself from apologizing unnecessarily, lest he fall into old habits. and we see him actually falling into this habit again after q loses his eye.

this specific passage is also very reminiscent of tubbo’s execution. it took a child almost getting publicly murdered to get quackity to somewhat look past his fear of the ram retaliating and stand up for his values. but in the end, he still didn’t do a lot to stop the execution from happening, other than just weakly rebutting against it happening. it was still a lot for him to do within the context of everything, and of course, his small dissents were very significant to the ram, based on his reaction to just that minor retaliation. it’s more than understandable why quackity couldn’t do more than that, for his own safety, but he still hates himself for not doing more, enough that he considers himself a monster for it, even though this obviously isn’t true and he did what he could at the time. quackity has so many regrets surrounding his time in manberg, and he hates himself for how he was then, which he projects onto q for the first part of the story too.

“You could call me a phony and I would agree/ Oh, I see the many versions of me that I perform/ Moulded to suit/ I know the real me just convolutes”

thaw!quackity wears so many different masks to hide his true emotions and to keep up all his different appearances. but every single mask he wears is crafted by him to perfectly fit both the situation and person. he doesn't let the mask completely down even with q. he stopped his habit of taking off his shoes when he gets home once q started living with him, so that q would see a very specific side of quackity. a more put-together side. a less human side. and it can be argued that this tendency to wear so many masks really started with manberg. before then, he still wore his emotions mostly on his sleeve with people, unless he was gambling. but manberg changed all that, made him more closed off with his genuine identity, it made him have to perfect his different masks for his own survival. of course, he only got more closed off from being his authentic self around most people the more things happened to him, but this all started in manberg.

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The Quackitification™

little analyses + bonus pictures under the cut :D

mediums: #2 pencil, standard 8.5x11 copy paper, royal purple crayola colored pencil

analysis time

references analysis

pre-thaw!q is intended to be q at the meetup with phil (minus the beanie) so i referenced those meetup pictures a lot when drawing him, and just really wanted him to contrast with the other qs in how carefree and happy he looks. to make it seem as though, well, he's from another world than them.

i referenced a lot of different quackity pictures with the middle 3 qs, so those ones weren't really based on any specific picture. they were all just mixes of different cc!q pictures, just like how q is kind of a mix of cc!q and c!quackity during these times, though the amount of each that he has varies depending on when in the story you're looking.

current q was heavily referenced off of that one photo of the LN!quackity photoshoot that cc!quackity did a while back, because at this point, q is his dsmp character, mentally, and now, physically. i just wanted there to be such a contrast between the first drawing being referenced off of a picture of cc!q being a cc, and the last drawing being referenced off of cc!q dressing up as his dsmp character. only it isn't really dress-up for poor q anymore.

okok now eye direction analysis time

i very intentionally drew each q looking in a different direction, so now i'm going to talk about my reasoning for that

the q from before the events of thaw has his eyes closed because he doesn't yet know the awful truth that the fun story he wrote actually happened somewhere. he looks so joyous, but at the same time, it's mostly because his eyes are still closed to the reality that he will have to grapple with throughout this story.

next we have beginning/desert!q. he doesn't have his blessing yet, and his eyes are wide with fear. he's looking to the right to indicate that the cc is still in there. after all, in q's world, he preferred using his right hand when writing, but he had to change that as he began adapting to this world, so as to not blow his cover. but desert!q hasn't yet had to do that, he's still the cc, just more scared and.. lost than usual. he's still currently abiding by the same rules and worldview that he had in his original world, so he's looking to the right, to what he knew in his original world.

then we've got post-bet!q. he's got the magic eye now, and he has to deal with way more issues than before, as he learns more about how fucked up this world is, and how horribly twisted his storytelling became here. he's looking down because now he's not just scared now, he's guilty, he blames himself for all the bad things that happened to quackity and he blames himself for all the bad things that happened to him too. he no longer has that optimistic outlook about the world, and has begun losing his old identity much faster than before. this is also where he starts adapting more to this world, and, eventually, learns to write with his left hand. there's a shift towards behavior that is more like manberg/pogtopia!quackity that's beginning in him now. he's started to look away from his old morals from before he got here and has begun doing and thinking things that he would have never done/thought before this story took place.

butcher!q is looking to the left. this is for several reasons. one, to signify how, kinda like how charlie put it, it'd be hard to tell the two gamblers apart if it wasn't for the blessed eye, because their ways of seeing the world have become so similar now. and two, it's set up for q's eye getting blinded, since it's his left eye that he loses, and that's where he was looking (at least i'm Assuming, since we haven't actually gotten a description of his blind eye from the outside pov yet) when he got blinded.

and then we have thaw!q as we know him after chapter 66. his blind eye is stuck looking to the left, and his seeing eye is looking forward, with his expression carefully neutral. he looks more like quackity than he ever did before. and he looks more like the quackity he always used to imagine than he ever did before. more importantly though, he Acts more like thaw!quackity than he ever did before, even though he has been progressively acting more and more like him all throughout the story. he's purposefully looking forward to show a sense of confidence. no longer will he allow himself to have downcast eyes or show such visible emotions (or emotions that aren't anger, at least). now he will look ahead confidently, with his best poker face, trying to seem unbothered, but deep down, the experiences and worldview of quackity will always weigh on him without him meaning to, just like his blind eye will look to the left.

misc notes

i made the hair slightly longer with the latter three qs, to show that he's been there for longer

i also made his hair longer to make him resemble my thaw!quackity design a little more (though it still isn't quite as long as my quackity's is, just because that would take some Insanely fast growing hair to get there in a month)

i initially wanted to give q some of his beauty spots, but i quickly found that it was very difficult to keep their placement consistent enough, which bugged me, so i cut that idea out

i struggled a bit with q's scar, since we haven't seen a *whole* lot of descriptions of it yet, especially not of when it's been completely healed over, as it's still currently fresh in thaw. but ultimately i settled with this design, though it took me a couple hours to figure out how i wanted it to look

i used a duller pencil when i drew pre-thaw!q, and at first this wasn't intentional, but i decided to sharpen it after i finished him, so cc!q's lines look a lot softer and duller than the other qs. but i decided halfway through this project that i'll Make it intentional, as a way to comment on how q used to be so soft before coming to this world, and he progressively got sharper and more put-together, just like his linework (though post-bet!q's linework is a bit messier and all over the place, since he's kind of going through it and hasn't quite perfected that mask of anger just yet. though, if i could've, i probably would've made his linework ever so slightly less dull than pre-thaw!q's but not nearly as sharp as the other qs. unfortunately, i can't really accurately control the dullness of my pencil at will, so that didn't happen-) but yeah, happy little accidents ^^

fun fact: i drew the first 4 qs on the same paper, and drew current q on his own separate page. he is also about 4x the size of the other qs, and is significantly more detailed

i thought about fully coloring everyone, but decided that i'd probably never get this thing done if i did that. though maybe one day i'll revist this and color them all, who knows?

now for some bonus pictures

this was my initial q design before i decided that actually, his scar looked way too much like quackity's and wasn't neat or straight enough for my liking. so uh, yeah, here's thaw!q if his scar was more thaw!quackity-ish! one of the many casualties during the great q design war™

a couple of wips, as a treat for making it all the way down here

okay that's all, thank you for making it all the way to the end of this post ^^

as always, reblogs are very much appreciated, and also make sure to check out the original fic by @alexanderwesker that i've been talking about throughout this post, if you haven't already! ^D^

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icarus flew

more stuff under the cut :D

couldn't decide if i liked philza's shadow looking over him or not

also yes his shadow does look like a giant crow >:]

tundra background that i ultimately scrapped

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somebody please help this poor man

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An Archive of Our Own, a project of the Organization for Transformative Works

Chapters: 1/9 Fandom: Dream SMP, Minecraft (Video Game) Rating: Teen And Up Audiences Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings Relationships: Alexis | Quackity & TommyInnit Characters: Alexis | Quackity, Cara | CaptainPuffy Additional Tags: Character Study, Therapy, Traumatized Alexis | Quackity, Alexis | Quackity-centric, Hurt Alexis | Quackity, Alexis | Quackity is Not Okay, but he will be /th, Sad Alexis | Quackity, Human Alexis | Quackity, Alexis | Quackity Needs a Hug, Las Nevadas Alexis | Quackity, Alexis | Quackity and TommyInnit are Siblings, Alexis | Quackity Needs Therapy, and he gets it, Therapist Cara | CaptainPuffy, Past Alexis | Quackity/Karl Jacobs/Sapnap, Past Alexis | Quackity/Wilbur Soot, Cara | CaptainPuffy and Jschlatt are Siblings, Villain Jschlatt (Video Blogging RPF), Past Abuse, Past Sexual Assault, Implied/Referenced Sexual Assault, Nightmares, Alexis | Quackity Has PTSD, Alexis | Quackity Has Trust Issues, Alexis | Quackity Has Abandonment Issues, Alexis | Quackity Has Mental Health Issues, Alexis | Quackity Has Issues, Realistic Minecraft, Implied/Referenced Abuse Summary:

Quackity had been reluctant when Tommy had suggested going to therapy, but, well, the kid had been insistent that it would help him, and it had seemed to have helped Tommy quite a bit ever since he had been under the care of the Pirate Captain-turned-Mind Healer that was Puffy.

 He had finally resolved to give it a shot after one too many mornings of him waking up from the same recurring nightmares– if one could call them simply that – that his mind had concocted to torment him, memories of cruel words and touches echoing through his mind and body. He felt the panic dancing throughout his lungs and chest, as he laid still as a stone statue in his bed, just waiting for the feeling to go away.

 Enough was enough, Quackity had thought once his panic had dissipated a bit. He was done feeling so scared; it was about time he actually tried to do something about his problems instead of shoving them in a corner and hoping he would forget about them one day. Besides, how bad could therapy possibly be?

The answer was: Very.