@themoomoorn replied to your post “Who's winning the racism contest, Three Hopes with...”:
Finally, someone who states it plain that Ike did not in fact defeat racism (even if it's of the magical kind), but rather fucked off afterwards because he's a chad or some bullshit
TBF Tellius doesn't say racism can be solved by rekting a religious person and no one praises the moron who suggests this plan
But there's still something to be said about how FE10 ends with Ike fucking off after the war, when said game started this way - no one gave a fuck about Daien and the "post war" situation in FE9, so Begnion ruined it scott free :/
Hopefully this time Elincia, Miccy and Sanaki are going to get along - even if in the crap world that is Tellius, Sanaki will basically have to deal with the consequences of a civil war in Begion (Senate vs Empress who is NOT the apostle!), Miccy will only bank on popular support to become Daein's ruler despite not being part of its royal family - and Elincia already had to deal with "politics" in part 2.
I'm more interested in a post-Tellius scenario when the hawks leave Serenes because even if Tibarn is Reyson's "friend", they need to eat meat, and they might want to slaughter some ravens for what happened to Phoenicis ; depending on how we played, given that all of Goldoa's population was in the Tower of Guidance, Kurthnaga might only rule over 25 peons and the "beast" tribe will have to deal with King Skrimir.
Oh well, I'm pretty sure if a third Tellius game was released, the devs would still find a way to push Ike, even if he's released as a FE6!Karel.
Whenever I read the Torn Pages of a Story document, I don't get the sense that Tiana and King Daddy's relationship was even all that romantic - she threw away her old life for a more privileged one on a whim, and likely little else. It's kinda like how lowkey unfortunate Jeralt and Sitri's relationship was.
I think it might have been romantic but not like... in a standard way that we understand romance. It seems more like falling in love with the idea of the person and having a mutual respect. I think Tiana may have been in love with the idea of the tough foreign king who was different from what she knew, but she didn't truly know him.
I mean, she couldn't have genuinely known what kind of man he was in his own home and such when they first met, so it seems like if say, two people met at a bar, kept meeting because they had a little crush and always met at that bar, then thought they were in love based on the information they had on each other (and maybe he did love her, and she just didn't know him well yet... but the way she never tries to intervene or help Claude just tells me none of that stuff bothered her and was not enough for her to leave him).
Personally I feel differently on Jeralt and Sitri, because I'd argue if you view their relationship negatively that Tiana and Unnamed King Man were worse. They also had more time together to be worse, but the vibes I get from Tiana's marriage with him is that she just kind of... lets him do what he wants? Almost like she figures it's just Almyran culture or something so it's not important, so she lets it happen.
What I would've preferred, no matter how unfortunately racist Almyra got written to be, is that based on the context of the story we did get that Tiana would've recognized all this and helped Claude in secret. Maybe she'd be scared of the king, maybe not; but maybe she just also felt like she still wanted the king's love and that helping Claude might be something he wouldn't want, and that it could become a relationship ending problem between them.
Now granted, I'd say yeah, it should be. If someone treated my child like that I'd definitely want to walk away. We don't have any indication that the king was abusive to his wife (wives???) unless I'm not remembering everything, so maybe she just wanted to stay with him/it wasn't that she was too afraid to leave? Which just... tells me she chose to stay with him over her child's wellbeing.
For whatever reason, she condoned it, and for whatever reason, she barely gave her child love and attention (he was so desperate for it that any time they spent with him like a normal parent was something he cherished because it was so damn rare). For whatever reason, she didn't step in or tell the king to cut the bullshit and actually love his son. It seems like either she didn't care... or she agreed with it, which both options are very shitty of her.
It could be that she was influenced by the king's ideas of what would make their child strong, because I can't imagine why she wouldn't say anything if she had differing views/morals on that. Either they were actually very in love and held the same beliefs from the get go, or she admired/agreed with his way of raising a child. Based on how she's described by Judith and such, I actually wouldn't doubt that. She doesn't seem like a doting and loving mother type, but more of a get up and brush off the dirt type of person. That would indicate that both of them had similar thoughts to begin with.
Obviously a child doesn't need to be strong if it's that or your child feels loved and cared for, but Tiana seems to lean more on the side of how the king feels about raising a child. I think it's pretty likely they really did fall in love or at least had a marriage based out of respect for each other and wanted a powerful and respected partner. They didn't seem to have conflict regarding how to raise their child, even though for, you know, normal parents, that would be an absolute deal breaker. The king may have been a parent, but imo Tiana was no better for letting it happen.
still thinking about baby claude just wanting to be hugged and loved. sometimes i think of baby claude, still chubby and smol, sitting on the floor and he sees his mom walk over and he raises his lil arms for uppy, but she never picks him up and holds him. he gets sad and pouts but he doesn't cry abt it anymore (as a lil toddler!!!) bc he knows it's not something he usually gets anyway so it's not a new worrying thing that nobody will hold him.
The fact that fans really don't seem bothered by the extra racist baggage and implications that get thrown Almyra's way in exchange for frothing about Cyril and the fact that the route puts the onus of change on the church and Fodlan itself and excuses most of Claude's behavior...like dude
For sure, and all the comments I see that say Claude was fair and just, yadda yadda, always leave out how terrible Almyra gets portrayed in this game. I mean in Houses it wasn’t... totally great and there were still some unfortunate undertones happening, but it’s blown to extremes in Hopes.
Notably from what I’ve seen, it’s the people who support the actions in GW that never mention the Almyran problem, or the fact that it’s the poc characters who are doing the morally questionable things. I remember when the game script leaked and my first thoughts about GW were “oh great, of course it’s the only brown main character who does all the shitty things”. Then I got deeper into it with the Nader and Shahid stuff, Claude declaring war on all of the rest of Fodlan, and of course let’s not forget them trying to squeak the King of Almyra’s bullshit treatment of his own child by with lol he was half asleep.
Because to be frank, it’s pretty Not Cool to me when I see that the Almyran King specifically is one of the worst parents in the game. I’d even say what he does is borderline abusive. There are only a small number of other dads in the game that are actually scummy, like... you know, Mercedes’ father, who... you know, died because Jeritza looked at him and went “wow, scum of the earth who deserves to die”.
Part of why I didn’t like GW is because it felt so... icky seeing how Almyra and especially Claude and Nader got handled. I wish they just left the morally questionable things in Edelgard’s route like they did with CF instead of deciding their fandom’s waifu was more important than an unoriginal storyline about the brown people being invaders and all that. 🙃
@themoomoorn replied: Incidentally also the hottest dad by a country mile. No wonder Adrestia was pissed at Faerghus - they got the hot dads, so Lambert had to go.
I mean listen, I don’t hate Leopold or Waldemar but lbh, Adrestia does not have hot dads. Faerghus needed all the hot dads to keep everyone warm in the cold Faerghus winters.
@themoomoorn replied to your post “Genuine question, not trying to start a fight, why...”:
My favorite TS tidbit where you get the Golden Ending is that if you keep Roland safe, then the ideal goal is to not set poor Avlora on fire with Wolffort's fire traps, as that would be reprehensible. No, you don't use them there because the right thing to do is to instead use said traps on Exharme and his standing army! 🤦
