ANEURIN BARNARD as RICHARD III and RUPERT GRAVES as THOMAS STANLEY THE WHITE QUEEN Episode 8 The King is Dead

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ANEURIN BARNARD as RICHARD III and RUPERT GRAVES as THOMAS STANLEY THE WHITE QUEEN Episode 8 The King is Dead
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Brass Rubbing: John Lord Le Strange and his wife Jacquetta Woodville, 1509, Middlesex, Hillingdon.
John, Lord Le Strange was born in 1444 and at the age of five succeeded his father as the 8th Lord Strange of Knocking and 4th Lord Mohun. In 1461, he was knighted and a year later received a license to enter into his father's lands. By 1450, he was married to Jacquetta Woodville, second daughter of Richard Woodville and Jacquetta of Luxemburg, therefore a sister to Edward IV's queen, Elizabeth Woodville. During the 1470s, Lord Le Strange was on several commissions to array supporters of Edward IV against the adherents of Henry VI, or for foreign war. He also swore allegiance to the king's son prince Edward. Lord Le Strange died on 16 October 1479, leaving his 16-year-old daughter Joan as sole heir. He may not have lived to see the marriage of Joan to George Stanley, son of Thomas Stanley, third husband of Margaret Beaufort.
Jacquetta is still commemorated at Hillingdon, however, in the beautiful Lestrange brass. The brass was commissioned by their daughter Joan in 1509 and is considered to be one of the finest brasses in Middlesex. The slab was originally situated on a chest tomb until the restoration of the church in the 1840s. The Latin inscription on the tomb reads: Under this tomb lies the noble John Lord LâEstrange, Lord of Knocking, Mohun, Wassett, Warnell and Lacey and Lord of Colham; with a portrait of Janet (sic) at one time his wife, which same Janet was sister to Elizabeth, Queen of England at that time wife of Edward IV; which same John died the 15th day of October in the 17th year of the reign of Edward IV; this tomb Jane, Lady LâEstrange caused to be made with the portrait of Janet at her own expense 1509. The brass is 6 feet high and 31 inches wide on a marble slab. Lord Strange is featured in armour with a bare head. Jacquetta is wearing a waisted dress, tied with a loosely hanging decorated girdle. An outer gown is open in the front, fastened across the chest by a band decorated with roses. She is wearing a plain headdress. Both are standing under a double canopy and between them is a small effigy of Joan. - from Sarah J. Hodder. «The Queen's Sisters».
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The White Queen features a huge ensemble cast to fill out its storyline of romance and palace intrigue and betrayal. Most of these characters are drawn directly from actual history, and while some are either shown out of context or don't appear long enough to make any real impact, the one undeniable--and perhaps most underrated--character is surely Thomas Stanley, Earl of Derby. His first appearance is as Margaret Beaufort's third husband. She marries him to secure her son's safety, and he marries her because she's fabulously wealthy. This is about as convenient a marriage as any in the 15th century.
If anyone but Rupert Graves had played the part, Stanley would have been entirely forgettable. But the actor brought such charm and wit to the role that everything from his knowingly arched eyebrows at Margaret's vow of chastity to his sardonic grin at all her machinations became imprinted on my brain. It only seems appropriate then that Stanley should have been the one to topple the entire house of Yorkist cards and hand Henry Tudor the throne.
when i say stanley carried the second half of this series this is what i mean
Margaret wielded both personal and political power. (...) Family was paramount to âmy lady the kingâs mother,â who fought fiercely for those she lovedâeven if it sometimes meant opposing her son, the king.Â
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To the other question - Margaret and Thomas likely consummated no? No evidence they had a chaste marriage until she actually took the vow of chastity years later.
Hi, sorry for taking so long to reply! This ask got buried in my inbox but I know itâs related to this discussion. My guess is that Thomas and Margaretâs marriage was indeed consummated based on the vow of chastity she took in 1499 (which was confirmed after his death)âin her vow, she implies sheâs had previous (carnal) knowledge of men. To be fair, looking at the text closely she doesnât specify if sheâs had carnal knowledge of all of her husbands, and we know that at least one of them she knew intimately (Edmund).Â
In the presence of my Lord God Jesu Christ & his blessed Mother the glorious Virgin St Mary & of all the whole company of Heaven & of you also my Ghostly Father I Margaret of Richmond with full Purpose & good Deliberation for the Weale of my sinfull Soule with all my Hearte promise from henceforth the Chastity of my Bodye. That is never to use my Bodye having actuall knowledge of manne after the common usuage in Matrimonye the which Thing I had before purposed in my Lord my Husbands Dayes then being my Ghostly father the Byshop of Rochester Mr Richard Fitz James & now eftsence I fully confirm it as far as in me lyeth beseeching m Lord God that He will this my poor wyll accept to the Remedye of my wretched Lyfe & Relief of my sinfull soule and that He will give me his Grace to perform the same. And also for my more Meryte & quietness of my Soule in doubtful things perteyning to the same I avowe to you my Lord of Rochester to whom I am & have been sence the first time I see you admitted verely determined (as to my chiefe trusty Councellour) to owe my Obedience in all things concerning the weale and profyte of my Soule.
The only thing we can know for sure is that she promised to live in chastity henceforth, though since thatâs the renewal of her previous vow (âwhich Thing I had before purposed in my Lord my Husbands Dayesâ) after her husband died, she was already living in chastity at least for some years before. A clue might be that her marriage to Stanley truly was consummated like she said, âafter the common usuage in Matrimonyeâ.Â
TL;DR: Thereâs no way to know for sure, but itâs very likely that Margaret Beaufort and Thomas Stanley had a full traditional marriage which included at least consummation before she took her vow of chastity in 1499 and they began living separately đčx