#till lindeman

[muppetvisionthreeeeedeeeeee]

Loved the new external Rammstein’s Till Lindemann for Mein Herz Brennt videoclip

Heinrich Unheimlich

[reiinraus]

i might be a bit insane over this picture

[morgana-lefay]

Till Lindemann, live with Rammstein @ Belgrade, Serbia (28/04/2013) - Made in Germany Tour. 📷 Bojana Janjic

[kendrixtermina]

Yo, thank you for that analysis. People have a hair trigger when it comes to these sorts of discussions and rightly so, however snap judgements are never useful. This is complicated and honestly just awful on both ends. I feel for these girls who had an awful experience - it shouldn't of happened...but it did. I also have some sympathy for Till who probably felt he did the best by them and has found out that it really wasn't enough. He's gonna have a rough turn around but I think everyone is in firm agreement that it's a necessary one.

Yeah...

I guess for evolutionary reasons human beings are never going to be completely normal about sexuality, a lot of energy & vulnerability goes either into expressing or repressing it.

[kendrixtermina]

the problem i see with those till lindemann parties is that in most cases they didn't openly communicate from the beginning that they were sex parties. Tell people that this is what you're inviting them to and the ones who aren't interested will probably just say no. It's not that unreasonable to feel unsafe and scared when you realize you have been lied to about the intention of an invitation. So if they didn't want anyone to feel uncomfortable they could have made sure everyone was on the same page about what was going to happen from the beginning.

Well, you can't exactly advertize an orgy. Or at least that's probably what he thought. Still there are very much ppl who want them.

The idea was probably to get everyone together who might be interested & 'surprise them' & that those who wouldn't want to be personally involved would just have a regular party with booze & watch the show. For the many ppl who report positive experiences that's precisely how it worked out.

That said, he certainly did fail to consider that not everyone has a forceful personality & some people might freak out. (& in that freaked-out state for example see the security guys as not for their benefit but possible goons to trap them etc. It's not like rich guys doing that is unheard of. It's probably no coincidence that the whole thing exploded now after stories of that became so frequent in the news) or feel conflicted/pressured.

Personally I like casual sex but I've read various articles of ppl who had a bad time of it for reasons that wouldn't have occurred to me - It's not something you can do unless you're confidently in touch with your instinctual sense of 'I want this' or 'I don't want this'

The reports are inconsistent about whether it was communicated, in some cases it was & in other it wasn't. It definitely should have been consistent at least at the e-mail stage, eg. no one should have arrive there & be surprised that there's making out going on.

I can't blame ppl for getting freaked out at all; It was poorly thought out.

I remember one youtube newscaster mentioning that the one thing you really gotta be afraid of in showbiz is the Yes Men that will surround you like piranas and that will just tell you you're the greatest & never veto or sanity check anything you do, because that makes it easy to lose touch with realistic expectations. You lose the constant feedback you'd normally get from ppl surrounding you.

By which I don't mean 'oh hes a poor baby blame the bad bad staff', again as someone who's into BDSM he should have thought of measures to ensure everybody's comfort. There's nothing wrong with living out fantasies (& I mean not just his own but those of his fans, which no one seems to consider like passive victims none of which could possibly want to fuck a dude who's very much a sex symbol. ) but there have to be sanity checks to avoid stuff like the shitty experiences that some ppl describing in the news.

Again I'm just lamenting that the media is boiling it down to this dichotomy of cancellation or support when we could be having an intelligent debate & sensibilization for the various issues at play.

I certainly wouldn't say that I 'support' or 'stand with' him cause he did make errors that had predictable consequences that one should be sensibilized for in this day & age.

But on the other hand, while this is a fuck up, I don't see it as meriting total demonization you're seeing in the media.

If the roofies thing had been true or anything about people not being allowed to leave, that certainly would be 'burn in hell' territory & I would currently be thinking of the most metal way to destroy my CDs, but from the actual evidence I just don't think that happened & it's unfair that the media keeps spreading this version without any corrections.

[herrlindemann]

what's your favorite hair color on Till?

Hmmm...I don't have one. He's probably the only person who looks good with any hair color (and haircut). He could dye his hair pink and he'll rock it.

[singfurmich]

Till's backstage photo for the LIFAD tour.

[kane-town]

Till Lindemann Любимый город "LUBIMIY GOROD” (Beloved Town)

Любимый город может спать спокойно, И видеть сны, и зеленеть среди весны...