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Chikome Tekpatl Teskatlipokatl

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tw: homophobia, transphobia, sexism, indigenous erasure, racism: Queer Indigenous Hatred by Machista Chicanos

This will be my last post.

I first started this blog as a way to explore my “queerness” as being an Indigenous person, while also reblogging what I thought was interesting and great historical moments of “queerness” by primarily people of color and Indigenous folx. 

However in the past few days, this homophobic, transphobic, machista, and racist person, Tolteka, has been harassing me and attacking me because he does not believe there are queer indigenous people and denies that colonizers brought the western gender binary/ideas of sexuality. 

This is not okay!

Unfortunately this isn't the first time I've dealth with this type of Chican@ mentality. 

Before I finish, I want to clarfiy a few things I’ve noticed and dealt with among primarily Chican@ spaces that are NOT okay.

Being Mexican/Chican@ does not necessarily mean you have Indigenous roots in Mexico. (There are many Mexicans who are European, Arab, Black, Chinese, etc. It doesn’t mean they are not Mexican, it just means not everyone has Indigenous ties to the land)

Not all Indigenous roots in México are Mexica (Aztec). Mexica are a group of Nahua folx. There are many Nahua folx, a lot of whom are Chichimeca (which is in itself a blanket term for many Nahua groups).  

Nahuatl is not the only native language that existed in the area now called México before colonization. Nahuatl and many other native languages are still spoken today and are NOT EXTINCT.

Being Mexican/Chican@ does not mean you are entitled to any and all Indigenous practices in México. 

It is NOT okay to romanticize and claim a pan-indigenous identity, then mix all these different indigenous group art without meaning or context.

Indigenous people from what is now Mexico are not extinct or dead. Stop talking about us in the past tense. 

Reading books by non-Indigenous anthropologists/historians about Indigenous people does not mean you know more than Indigenous people about their own cultures.  

Sexism, machismo, and fetishizing womxn is NOT respecting our ancestors. 

Bashing queer indigenous people is NOT decolonial. 

Thank you for reading. 

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Pt. 5And no, I actually have nothing against gay people. I called you out specifically for your homosexual agenda and false interpretations of our theology. Obviously there was gay people before the conquest and it was accepted to some degree. But duality was a big part of mexica way of living and understanding. Ometeotl had male and female aspects (ometecuhtli/omecihuatl). Thats why the mexica considered homosexuality to be a crime against the state, because it upset the balance of male-female

Pt 6 aspects (ometecuhtli/omecihuatl). Thats why the mexica considered homosexuality to be a crime against the state, because it upset the balance of male-female family traditions

What do you keep talking about Indigenous folks in the past tense? We are still alive to this day and you aren't one of us.

Homosexuality and heterosexuality are ideas brought by the spaniard. Masculinity and femininty don't mean the same in Indigenous communities. And EVERYONE is a part of ometeotl, including queer people. 

Get out of my ask box you are basic and ignorant. 

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pt.1 Yes idiot, our Mexican heritage because the majority of Mexicans have indigenous ancestry whether you like it or not. White people in mexico only make up 10% of the population. You're the one making assumptions here, how do you know if I have indigenous roots or not? I find it funny that you so blindly accept oral tradition from these "elders" or Danzantes as if it wasn't exposed to 500 years of colonizing distortions, biases, and human ulterior motives.

(pt. 2) Books contain biases and filters, too. But they contain information that is recorded so much closer to the pre-European source than modern orakl accounts. And I'm referring to the books that were labeled the "Florentine Codex" that were written after the conquest by Sahagun with the help of Nahua teachers and Tlacuilos. I'm well aware of what the amoxtli is, more importantly the Teo Amoxtli is what kept all of the knowledge of our ancestors theology. (pt 3) Oral tradition was not the basis of knowledge recording in Tenochtitlan. Maybe outside in the "tribal" areas. But in Tenochtitlan, books were the basis of instruction. And we had thousands of them. Only 12 pre conquest mexica books or "codices" survived along with hundreds of manuscripts that were prepared by scribes after the conquest. Only a fool would think that reading these materials are somehow a bad thing.

Having "Indigenous ancestry" doesn't mean you have Tolteca, Mexica, Olmec, Maya, Chichimeca, etc ancestries. Fuck your entitlement. Indigenous people still exist, we are here, and we are not your ancestors or your fetish.

You've clearly never actually dealt with these "codices" because they are all pictures except for spanish writing. You can't read those materials because you don't know what they mean, and neither do your anthropologists,

You can blow up my ask box all you want, you just mad cuz you're straight up colonized Chicano who has to use books to support his ridiculous rejections of "queer" Indigenous people. 

My elders will always know more than your anthropologists. Don't be mad and aggressive cuz you are colonized. 

Why call yourself mexican? You're just a spaniard pretending to have indigenous ancestry. 

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pt.1boo hoo! are you offended? I'm attacking you for degrading our heritage as mexican people. For what? so that you could promote this "queer culture" of yours on this blog. I could care less if you speak nahuatl, that doesn't make you anymore educated on the subject of my ancestors theology. You say that these are colonial interpretations from the original nahuatl that was taught to you by these danzantes you're associated with. So from the original Nahuatl, it is still being described as....

"same sex eroticism" and "patron of MSM" ?? all I needed to read was that you were taught this from some "elder" or Danzantes to know this was a Fraud. I know the history of these type of Danzantes who shit on our heritage with their new age fraud interpretations of our culture or as they claim it is being passed down as "oral tradion". And no, I do actual readings from reknown mexican anthropologist/historians like Miguel Leon Portilla, Alfredo Lopez Austin and numerous others. An addition  to first hand sources from the 16th century like the Florentine Codex, Ballads of the Lords of New Spain and Cantares Mexicanos. NONE of these books ever mention anything homo erotic like you are claiming xochipilli to be.

Mexican heritage? Just because you’re Mexican it doesn’t mean all Indigenous folks are your heritage. Not all Mexicans have Indigenous roots. 

You are just a straight up machista, homophobic Chicano who can’t accept that the colonizer brought strict gender binary systems and hatred of “queer” expressions.

And if you think an anthropologists/historians are somehow a valid source, you are fucked. Those interpretations are colonized, just like you.

FLORENTINE CODEX? You don’t even know the right name, you can’t even understand the amoxtli unless you understand what each image represents. Our wisest elders don’t even have access too or can fully come to a conclusion as to what each amoxtli means, but your “anthropologists” can? 

The spaniards had the goal of colonizing, and you are the perfect example of a colonized person. Congrats on being the spaniard’s dog cuz you are barking just like they did.

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no dumbass, I'm not missing the point. I've asked you several times where you're getting your source to this interpretation. My only guess is that you're making this stuff up on your own to put it on this homo erotic blog of yours.

I myself as, an indigenous person, am translating from cuiloni and tecuilontiani, which are folks who were main participants in ceremonies and danzas for Xochipilli. 

I am not making any of this up, I am just offering interpretations in English (which I am saying is NOT a correct translation, and any done in any other language than Nahuatl will ALWAYS be incorrect). My sources are my culture, my practices. I am an indigenous peron from México, I am a Nahua person.

I repeat, interpretations are not correct, that’s why they are interpretations. There is NO way to properly describe/translate in colonial languages like English or Spanish. 

I have told you what Indigenous group I belong to.

You have failed to respond. You attacked me for no reason, I am telling you these are interpretations from the COLONIAL viewpoint, yet you are not listening.

What sources do you have? Wikipedia doesn’t count.At this point, I can question your roots. Your tumblr name is “tolteka”, where are your roots, what groups do you come from?

Or are you just a machista Chicano romanticizing my roots then attacking me for offering interprations I have explained are just interpretations.

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I'm only limited to 250 words so I'll just make my point loud and clear in this last post. If your source is this "elder" that translated this info to you about Xochipilli being the "Patron of MSM" then I don't even won't to bother arguing with you.

It is like you aren't reading my responses.

I am telling you that is an INTERPRETATION in the english language based in its colonial systems because there is no way to properly describe it. I am not saying Xochipilli is a patron of msm, but rather that is how the west would interpret it. (In my blog, I even say all interpretations are based on colonial, western ideas that we have to challenge) 

If any person describes any Teotl as having influences over "male" or "female", that would be false too because it doesn't properly explain the difference in gender systems.

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it sounds like your just pushing for a gay agenda with Xochipilli, regardless of its TRUE meaning.What sources are you using to translate xochipilli? I can list you many first hand post conquest sources that don't mention anything gay related.

Look, I am not gay. At all, so please don’t assume. You also assumed I am male in your tumblr post.

I never said Xochipilli was gay, ever. 

I don’t need “post conquest resources” (And they wouldn’t even mention anything “gay” especially since the term homosexual didn’t appear until the 1800’s), the majority of my resources and knowledge come from my elders, most of whom are Mexica, even tho I am from a Chichimeca group. 

Honestly, looking at your blog, you just seem like a Chican@ who thinks all indigenous Mexican cultures are theirs to explore. Romanticizing is a horrible thing to do.

Tinahuatltlahtoa?