tonightimalive replied to your post “i feel…meh on some of sam’s answers re goblins, but also just...”
That’s why I loved meeting nott, because it was like a reversal of his last character...and then it turned out to be the same thing in different clothes
I was always taking Nott’s backstory with a grain of salt (especially given how vehemently--and clearly honestly--she argued for the murder of what we presumed was her clan early on). But there’s definitely always been an underlying hope that, even if Nott never made peace with the idea of being a goblin, that at least her/the audience’s understanding of goblins in Exandria would be complicated. And it is something that we’re seeing complicated re: orcs with Fjord! And while Tieflings don’t fall into quite the same “always evil” trope, they are canonically (in D&D canon) written to at least heavily lean that way. So there’s definitely a lot of disappointment there, compounded by the fact there is so much stuff the cr cast does really well.
kimabutch replied to your post “i feel…meh on some of sam’s answers re goblins, but also just...”
strong agree. I'm trying to keep in mind that it's bigger than a single person and a very pervasive trope, but it's frustrating still. I have a tiny bit of hope that sam expressed openness to there being good goblins in matt's world. a tiny bit.
Yeah, by far the most comforting thing he said on Talks tonight was that he had a lot of questions for Yussa’s butler (did we ever get his name?? I can’t for the life of me remember). And the presence of a non-evil goblin character definitely makes me feel better about the prospects of them exploring this somewhere further down the line. Still, I wish Sam had acknowledged that people aren’t so much upset about him hating goblins, and that people are instead uncomfortable with the implication that an entire race/species could be inherently evil--especially given the history that narrative is tied to. I don’t know what exactly got tweeted at him, and I know nuance is harder to communicate on Twitter (also I can imagine that some people were just straight up mean), but I know the cast can take criticism without interpreting it as a personal attack, and I wish that had happened here.
So, yeah, I’m not mad, exactly, and it’s hard to place the blame on a player for their individual backstory, or the DM who is--even if Matt heavily homebrews--drawing from a world created by other people. I really wish there were bigger conversations happening amongst the writers at Wizards of the Coast on this subject. And rectifying the problem is really only a matter of shifting perspective--it’s so easy to move form “all orcs are evil because they were ‘created’ by an evil god” to “Orcs are often ostracized and viewed as ‘evil’ by other races given their original creator.” Shifting the “evil” perception into being a bias shared within the world, as opposed to a truth of a given race is a relatively easy solution to a complicated problem without entirely overhauling existing canon (not that I would have an issue with that). It also allows for more interesting character and narrative exploration! Honestly one of the most annoying things (for me) about “always evil” races is that it’s such a boring concept! Where’s the fun in an entire race/species sharing the same moral alignment??
caduceus-tealeaf-derolo replied to your post “i feel…meh on some of sam’s answers re goblins, but also just...”
same. especially when he played scanlan,
God I have so many complicated feelings about Scanlan. I think a lot of Scanlan’s characterization stemmed from the fact they were first playing at home, and the cast clearly had a lot of familiarity with each other, and a good understanding of each other’s boundaries. There were a lot of jokes that I’m sure would have felt very innocuous when happening in a home game, that suddenly feels very uncomfortable once played in public. A lot of my initial hang-ups with Scanlan were addressed or mellowed out over the course of the campaign (the main thing that wasn’t was his penchant for modifying people’s memories, but I feel like we’re getting a good tragic look at the flip side of that this campaign). But I am happy Sam chose to go in a very different direction this campaign, even if I also have my hang-ups with Nott. (Though all of my hang-ups there are narrative driven and don’t have much to do with Nott as a character in and of herself. I love Nott to bits and she probably qualifies as one of my favorite characters this campaign. It’s been a confusing week.)