#tortief

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hi! what would kittens of a female calico with amber eyes x a male black and white cat (60% spotting) with amber eyes look like?

Male kits will be either black or red, female kits will be either black or tortoiseshell. If both parents carry dilute, each kit has a 25% chance of being dilute (red > cream, black > grey, tortoiseshell > blue-cream tortie). Otherwise, no kits will be dilute.

Every kit will have 40-100% white spotting. (remember, calico = tortie with at least 40% white spotting)

~ E

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What would the female kits of a purebred charcoal bengal father and a tortoiseshell mother (carries dilute and tabby, under 10% white if any white at all, long-furred) look like? Could one of the kits resemble the father?

Well, charcoal is an interesting pattern specific to bengals that I don’t know much about, but I’ll try my best. According to the resources I’ve found, charcoal bengals come about by combining the Asian leopard cat agouti gene with the domestic cat non-agouti gene. I’m having trouble finding more detailed information, so I’m going to assume that this cat is genetically heterozygous agouti. 

If anyone has more detailed information on the genetics of bengal patterns, please send it our way! I’d love to be able to provide better information about bengal patterns when we get asks about them.

The female kits would be black/brown or tortoiseshell. They’ll probably have a 50/50 chance of being tabby instead of solid. I’m not 100% how their tabby patterns would work out due to their father’s genetics, but I’m told marbled patterns are often the result of purebred rosetted bengals breeding with non-bengals. 

I think one of the kits resembling the father to some extent would be pretty realistic, at least given my limited understanding of bengal genetics, but I would advise against giving the kits rosettes -- marbled patterns are more likely, in my experience.

~ E

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what would the kits of a longfurred pale cream tabby point (male) and a tortiseshell look like?

If the tortie is longhaired, the kits will all be longhaired. If the tortie is shorthaired but carries the longhaired gene, each kit has a 50/50 chance of being longhaired vs. shorthaired. If the tortie is shorthaired and doesn’t carry the longhaired gene, every kit will be shorthaired.

The female kits can be either red/cream-based or tortie-based. The male kits can be either red/cream-based or black-based. 

If the tortie carries dilute, each kit will have a 50/50 chance of being dilute (red > cream, black > grey, tortie > blue-cream tortie). Otherwise the kits will all be non-dilute.

If the male carries solid, each kit will have a 50/50 chance of being solid,except the red/cream ones (red/cream kits will always be tabbies). Otherwise, every kit will be a tabby.

If the tortie carries a pointing or albinism gene, each kit will have a 50/50 chance of being a point (or mink, if she carries the sepia gene). Otherwise, every kit will be non-point. 

~ E

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Hi, I have these three couples I'd like possible kittens for I hope you can help me. First are a ruddy Abyssinian tom and a longhaired bobtailed tortie molly with 70% white, a shorthair black tom with 40% white and a longhair chocolate point molly with a snowshoe pattern and finally a ginger classic tabby molly and a solid grey tom, both over 40% white and shorthaired. Thank you very much and sorry if my English is a bit bad :)

First of all, your English is great. If you hadn’t said anything, I would’ve assumed you were native.

Now, onto the cats:

Ruddy tom x tortie molly

Male kits can be red/cream-based or black-based, female kits can be black-based or tortoiseshells. If the tom carries solid, each non-red kit has a 50/50 chance of being solid vs. tabby. Otherwise, every kit will be a tabby. If the tom carries a non-ticked gene, each tabby kit will have a 50/50 chance of being a ticked tabby vs. a mackerel tabby. Otherwise, every tabby kit will be a ticked tabby. Every kit will have between 0-60% white. Unless the tom carries bobtail, each kit will have a normal-length tail. If the tom does carry bobtail, each kit will have a 50/50 chance of being bobtail.

Black tom x chocolate point molly

If the tom carries longhair, each kit will have a 50/50 chance of being longhair vs. shorthair. If he doesn’t, every kit will be shorthair. If the tom carries chocolate, each kit will have a 50/50 chance of being chocolate vs. black. Otherwise, every kit will be black. About half the kits will have 0-60% white, about a quarter will have 40-100% white, and about a quarter will have no white. Unless the tom carries pointing (unlikely), none of the kits will be point. If the tom does carry pointing, kits will have a 50/50 chance of being point.

Grey tom x ginger classic tabby molly

All kits will be shorthair. All male kits will be red/cream-based and all female kits will be tortoiseshells. If the molly carries dilute, each kit will have a 50% chance of being dilute (cream instead of ginger, blue-cream tortie instead of tortoiseshell). If the molly carries solid, each non-red kit will have a 50/50 chance of being solid vs. classic tabby (remember, red is always tabby, so ginger or cream toms and the ginger or cream patches on torties will be classic tabby for all the kits). Otherwise, every kit will be a classic tabby. About half the kits will have 0-60% white spotting. About a quarter of the kits will have 40-100% white spotting. About a quarter of the kits will have no white spotting.

~ E

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Hi, is it possible for a brown male mackerel tabby with copper eyes and without any white and a female calico (maybe caliby instead?) that's 70% white with green eyes to have a tortoiseshell (that's not expressing tabby stripes) female kitten with copper eyes? And if so, what might the other kits (male and female) in the litter look like? If you'd be so kind to answer this I'd be forever in your debt! (even if it's just to tell me this is all impossible!)

This kit seems totally plausible (whether the female is a calico or caliby!) as long as she has at least a little bit of white on her (anywhere from 0-60%). 

As for other kits in the litter, her sisters could be fellow torties, tabby-torties, brown mackerel tabbies, or solid black. Her brothers could be brown mackerel tabbies, solid black, or ginger mackerel tabbies. If you want, her siblings could also be dilute versions of these colors too (blue-cream torties and tabby-torties, grey mackerel tabbies, solid grey cats, and cream mackerel tabbies), though they should probably be outnumbered by the non-dilute siblings. Every kit should have somewhere between 0-60% white spotting.

~ E

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What would be the kits of a calico she-cat with roughly 60% white (cap and saddle) and a brown mackerel tabby tom with no white have? The tabby in the orange spots of the calico is also mackerel.

You can have red toms, non-red toms, tortie she-cats, and non-red she-cats.

If the tom carries solid, each kit will have a 50/50 chance of being solid vs. mackerel tabby. Otherwise, all the kits will be mackerel tabby. The red toms and the red spots of the tortie she-cats will be mackerel tabby no matter what.

If both parents carry dilute, each kit will have a 25% chance of being dilute (grey, cream, or blue-cream tortie depending on their base color). Otherwise, every kit will be non-dilute. 

Each kit will have anywhere from 0-60% white spotting, though most likely somewhere closer to the middle of that range.

~ E

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What would the kits of a solid brown tom and a brindled tortoiseshell molly look like? They both have 0% white and the tom carries the classic tabby gene

Ginger toms, black toms, tortoiseshell she-cats,and black she-cats. If the molly carries chocolate, about half the black cats (and black patches of the torties) will be solid brown instead. If both parents are solid, their tabby genes don’t matter -- all the kits will be solid. If both parents carry dilute, each kit will have a 25% chance of being dilute (black > grey, tortoiseshell > blue-cream tortie, chocolate > lilac, chocolate tortie > lilac-cream tortie).

~ E

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If a longhaired solid tortie molly with no white mated with a shorthaired gray spotted tabby tom (carrying mackerel) who had about 30% white what kind of kits might they have?

Either all of the kits would be shorthaired or about half would be longhaired.

Half of the female kits would be torties and half would be black. Half of the male kits would be red and half would be black. Either half the kits would be dilute (tortie -> blue-cream tortie, red-> cream, black -> grey) and half wouldn’t be, or all the kits would be non-dilute. 

As for tabby patterns, either all of them would be tabbies or half will be tabbies and half would be solid. Of the tabbies, either 50%, 75% or 100% of them will be spotted. They’ll probably be mackerel otherwise. 

About half of the kits will have a little white like their father and about half will have none like their mother.

~ E