This belongs on the internet for so many reasons.
I can't put this into words, when I try it doesn't do it enough justice. The reason this is worth reading is the emotion that fueled this had been building up for years, and it shows. Original Post: "This country has redefined hypocrisy."
Jess ...yeah, but all of the children in those countries are terrorists. they're all indirectly responsible for 9/11. plus now we don't have to worry about them coming to take our jobs.
Derek false.... only afghanistan and Pakistan
William That's absolutely wrong. Sorry.
William He's actually created terrorists in Yemen by killing children and enraging the parents against us, who weren't against us before.
Derek right and how much "knowledge" do you actually have on the subject besides what you read on the internet
Derek move to fuckin Canada
Derek ....oh wait do you work at USAFCENT... no. stop believing everything you read
Jess i'm pretty sure yemen was one of the first, back in like 2002.
Jess plus definitely...DEFINITELY in Iraq and i've recently heard of the phillipines being attacked as well.
William So only someone who works at USAFCENT can have a political opinion based off major foreign and domestic news sources from a wide variety of ideologies and biases? Are we questioning the legitimacy of CNN and TIME magazine as well? They've even covered the children in Yemen, sorry you've missed it?… And then tell me to relocate from a country I love so much that I spend an infinite amount of time more than the average citizen learning about and studying… Really… I know I talk about retiring to Iceland, but Canada? Also, it shouldn't matter at all. None of this. Those children are exactly the same as American children, some actually were American children… but because they were born in a different country doesn't make it OK. I don't agree with my tax dollars doing this, I apologize that we live in America and I have freedom of speech, I should get my ass to canada, I know, but I will voice my opinion and raise awareness all I want. If you have a rebuttal I'd be glad to hear how children's lives aren't the same.
Derek It's war. Get use to unwanted casualties. Especially when those cowards use children as shields. And how many ppl have been protected from those strikes. A lot more than those accidentally killed.
Derek And while u sit around "researching" I'm actually put there contributing and making a difference. There once a time when u were ready to defend this country so sorry it didn't work out for u. Back sit back and grow your beard and form your opinions while my brothers and sisters work to give u that freedom.
Lupe Yea, just kill all of somalia, those people smell and suck at physical labor
William You didn't even know there's been drone strikes in Yemen and you're supposed to have a valid opinion? Putting research in quotes doesn't do much after demonstrating a complete ignorance of a conflict that's been occurring for a decade... There's no reason for that condescension when we simply disagree on foreign policy, and it's certainly no reason to abandon the ideology you protect and tell me to move away for exercising it. JFK welcomed criticism like mine because it leads to improvement. With your logic only the military should vote because as a civilian who's not “contributing” and just sitting around “researching” I must have a useless opinion especially since you're telling me to leave for voicing it. I'm making deductions based off your comments, but you're pulling stuff out of your ass when you decide what I would fight to defend. What is your point with that anyways? You do know the country is made of both civilians and soldiers, so how does it help your argument/why even mention that I didn't become a soldier? I retained that passion for the government and as a civilian I'm content with the FOIA, voting, debating and discussing, and writing or calling representatives and politicians as my involvement. Sorry?
Lupe Dude.. how did the guy with a beard lose on the Voice? He was a much better singer than that girl that one America sucks at voting!!!
Eric Thank you for defending our nation Derek. Now you may want to try learning a little bit about it. Judging by your posts you are either a troll or severely misinformed, narrow minded and or delusional. I really hope you do the armed forces a favor and not make any more outlandish comments on topics which you seem to have not been reading up on. I've written legislature in the form of hate crime statutes, which indeed are law now, I was a presidential classroom attendee. Thank you for the defense of our skies, but reality check buddy. The military does not make you a superior individual, unless you are some high brass you are the same as everyone else. P.S. your'e duty is defending William's right to make these statements, not to mention his right to show you up with some facts...
Derek Let me just say the truth. William u are a worthless citizen that will amount to nothing. Oh... And check your facts.
Derek That fact that u all have the time to write these lengthy posts is prove enough. So I'm out. Go smoke ur bong and fuck off.
Derek And Yemen was 2002...... Ha.
Derek And I'm writing this on a cell phone so *proof.
Derek And yes I think I'm better than all of u. Except Lupe. He's like an apache helicopter.
Derek Which has killed children all over the world
Derek But before I go let me school u in how things work in the real world... The president rarely approves drone strikes myself. The power is delegated to the secdef who in returns brings it down to the secretaries of the required armed forces. Which then delegate the power to majcoms. The majcom will send a request to a numbered Air Force. They then make a strike package at the caoc. That package makes it to wing level. The wing then puts it in a squadrons hands. The squadron will get the personnel to carry out the task. The president is barely ever involved in the process. So your whole argument has been incorrect from the start. The only time he gets into it is when a super high priority target is on the line. Drones will perform ISR until the time is right and collateral damage is minimized. With the amount of sorties we do a month... Classified very high number, you would be happy to know children are barely ever hit. So when u see it on the news, yes it's sad, but no one loses sleep because 1 out of a super high number isn't bad at all. U just got fact raped. Here's some vasoline.
Derek Himself* fuck autocorrect.
William Dude... really... how insecure are you that you had to tell me I wouldn't amount to anything lolol
William You didn't think this whole thing was actually about specifically Obama... I'm aware he literally doesn't do a lot of those things... but thanks for the attempt at a lesson.
William And Yemen was as recent as November 7th 2012.... "ha"
Eric William was questioning the morality and legality of the strikes in accordance to international treaties, opposed to questioning operating procedures and calling the president trigger happy... I know the intelligence agency also has a drone program( out of curiosity, do they follow the same operating procedures as airforce strikes?). But i didn't read any "red button" rhetoric here, i dont know why you alluded to that derek.
Derek U all got schooled, and no rebuttal. Figures. Have a good day.
Eric By no rebuttal do you mean the FOUR posts after your comment... You really arent the brightest guy...
Derek No rebuttal just two Daytona state idiots trying to make a point.
Eric Stetson you mean
Derek Lmao.
Eric You need to grow up kid.
Derek Once again lmao.
Lupe SO whats up with dow jones? Is that B up or down points today?
William Derek, I'm trying to keep this political but you seem too insecure to handle that. When you pick out arbitrary crap like my beard and where I went to school, all you do is show everyone how insecure you are and how weak your argument is. Basic psychology dictates that your condescension and childish insults are ONLY because you yourself need lifting up. At this point I don't feel like handing out compliments even though that's actually what your sad little ego needs. Instead I'll “hand out” one fact, I don't need to defend myself or my education because I'm not even close to being the person you think I am. Honestly, I think the arrogance you carry for being in the air force blinds you from all sorts of other things, like a ten year long conflict that's been reported weekly..... But I forgot, you air force guys get that secret news letter that can't be shown to the public and you have crazy amazing insight into everything on the news.......
Evan i've enjoyed reading this.
Derek And again lmao.
William Oh, so that's what it sounds like to have no argument, "lmao"
Derek That's my I'm done wasting my time with trash like u.
William Nice, call your friend trash, not like you look terrible enough already. Go read a book.
Derek Friend? And again lmao.
William I really am sorry you're not smart enough to differentiate personal bullshit from politics and because we don't share the same opinions we can't be friends. Good luck with that reality check you need.
Shaun derek you must be the biggest retard in the armed forces...and if you were really a badass you would be in the field like a real soldier because you aint protecting shit from your desk bub. Your arrogance itself is proof positive that you are a clueless puppet. so why dont you go back to your cubicle and save the world superman...you might wanna think about opening your mind too you dumb fuck
Shaun you dont deserve to call yourself an officer... real men who Actually fight should never have to salute a child like you
Lupe I like turtles
Derek U have no idea bro. Merry Christmas.