we like to call this one “bullying the Fe”

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we like to call this one “bullying the Fe”
Fi
My favorite thing about high Fi is their growth patterns. Since we live in a world where the “universal morality” of Fe is what is prioritized and perpetuated, Fi start out fucking up. Hard.
When children screw up, there are two ways they can take it: conform or rebel. When a child conforms, that’s Fe, and when a child rebels, that’s Fi. But, as all Fi’s know, when you’re younger, you just want to avoid feeling bad. So, Fi’s become real people-pleasers at first. They think that if they do everything everyone else wants, they will never have to feel bad again. Then, they learn that isn’t true.
So, the next stage is rebellion, retribution, retaliation. They decide if they feel bad, so will the people that are making it so. They decide they want to feel good at whatever cost. This comes after they’ve internalized for so long that it can’t be kept in anymore. It’s often a self-destructive period, marked by intense depression and rampant escapism. However, they will learn what it means to stand up for themselves.
Lastly, when the dust settles, Fi learns that they can’t just keep it in all the time, no matter whose feelings it hurts. They learn to prioritize themselves, but in a way where they can also give loyalty and love to others. They learn that they don’t need to be stepped on to make people happy. They learn that if the only way to make a certain person happy is to throw themselves under the bus, then that person isn’t worth it.
So, next time you want to make your problem an Fi’s problem, stop. They went on a long road to get to a place where they care about themselves way more than they care about you, and to them, passive-aggression, internalization, the silent treatment, etc, are only reminders the bending over backwards was the worst thing they ever did for people. And then they get mad.
If you wanna stress a high Fi into Si or Te, you better be prepared for the consequences.
Ok it’s time for me to have a fucking rant on Fe doms bc I give the domestic ( @chosengamer) a lot of shit for being an Fe dom. As an Fi aux, you can understand why I have certain opinions on Fe and it’s pure ridiculousness. BUT THIS POST IS NOT ABOUT THAT. WE ARE TAKING ABOUT SWEET CUPCAKE FE DOMS. And the not-so-sweet side of them.
1. Obviously, Fe doms are huge sweethearts in their own ways. They usually do this by making sure everyone in a group feels comfortable and content. They radiate kindness and calmness in their element, and make sure everyone Ina group is included and heard. Sometimes that even means talking down the usual loudmouth, which bring us to…
2. Fe doms are NOT all sunshines and rainbows and fucking brownies. Especially immature Fe doms, or Fe doms with underdeveloped supporting functions, can lend toward (sometimes by accident) non-conflict just to maintain harmony. However, those that embrace their supporting functions (and perhaps a bit of Fi) WILL NOT STAND FOR YOUR DISRUPTIVE BULLSHIT. It’ll take a hot minute for them to find the right balance in the way they shut down people ruining collective harmony, but the quickest way to get an Fe dom from 0 to 100? Be an asshole. They will not hesitate to fight you. Especially if the rest of the group is cheering them on.
3. Fe doms are ridiculously perceptive, regardless of their auxiliary perceiving function. They notice any person who looks uncomfortable in a conversation. And they will either tactfully change the subject, or they will give a sympathetic “are you okay?” that will actually kinda make you wanna spill your guts in a way Fi doms could only dream of (sorry, but ENxPs get told all kinds of info for some reason).
4. Even so, if you ever need someone to just vent to, Fe doms are a pretty good go to. They are great listeners, and tend to leave solutions (and interruptions) to the back burner so that you feel comfortable talking to them. They also tend to leave judgments aside as well, unless you were being a major dick in the situation. Then they might politely (or not so politely) tell you that you were kind of being a jerk. And they’re so easy to vent to bc…
5. Fe doms genuinely care about you and what you’re feeling. They’re the friend who asks “How was your day?” every time you see them. And they listen every time! It doesn’t matter if you had a super happy or super crappy day, they will sympathize perfect so you end up telling them all about your day the next time they ask you.
6. However, Fe doms are notoriously indecisive. Especially since they defer to others’ feelings. If you ask an Fe dom what they want to do, they are always the one that goes “I dunno, what do you wanna do?”, which really only gets frustrating after a long time of exposure or if you’re also an indecisive person. Otherwise, it’s another way Fe doms make their friends and loved ones feel special.
7. Speaking of, Fe doms are total mom-friends. They bake cookies or cook dinner for everyone on special occasions. They help you with chores and homework even when you don’t ask. Oh, and god forbid you tell them you haven’t slept enough or eaten enough! I have a pretty bad habit of not eating (ENxPs are pretty notorious for not eating, and stimulant ADHD medication really does not help), and sometimes I’ll tell the domestic some of my world-record bad eating days (one day I only ate four slices of bread, another I only ate a third of a tofu bowl and a cup of mint ice cream), which causes him to ask what I’ve eaten in the course of a day or to make sure to take me to dinner so I don’t fall over and die before getting home. I complain, but I love it.
All in all, Fe doms are everyone’s best friend. They are great at fostering an environment of good cheer (and sometimes bad jokes). They are there for you when you need it always. And sometimes they bring food too! They’re sweethearts and wonderful people, and honestly if you wanna wrong them, take advantage of them, or be rude to them, you deserve the ass-kicking they will give you. You also deserve any ass-kicking their high Fi/Ti/Te friends are gonna dole out to you for hurting their sweet mom-friend. Fe doms come with at least one entourage of misfits who need validation, if not several.
Fe doms don’t deserve the amount of flack I give them, especially for how important one of them is to me. (And don’t think I won’t kick your ass if you’re the least bit mean to him)
Do you ever just see a post about cognitive functions, and when you get to Ne (extroverted intuition), you’re just like “THATS IT???? THAT IS ALL???”
I get really salty and eye-rolly about Ne stereotypes not only because it’s my dominant function, but holy shit, I have ADHD and the amount of times an Ne post will sound like a collection of ADHD stereotypes is frankly extremely annoying.
AND THE UNDERESTIMATION! It’s very disheartening to read a post that describes these really accurate or intelligent habits of other cognitive functions just to get to Ne and all we get is “they say ‘uhm’ a lot”… I’m not saying it isn’t true, BUT OF ALL THE HABITS!! It is VERY EASY to tell an Ne-dom, and it’s not bc we’re ADHD airheads who say “uh” a lot.
1. Ne doms are ridiculously good at guessing. They instantly generate possibilities and filter them into the most likely options before you ask them. We discover the craziest, most useful things looking for something to surprise us.
2. Ne doms are fucking hilarious. We make instant connections to old inside jokes, to funny things we’ve heard, to new ideas. The guessing also helps them find what others will find funny.
3. Ne doms are goddamn creative. They might be the ones who say “I almost cried thinking about how cute a bunch of wiener dogs running into battle would be”, but they’re also the ones who will say “Why don’t you just move this part closer to the motor if you’re having connection problems?” or who will just squish a loop in order to secure a line inside a tube. They are artists and musicians and innovators and architects. And they make it look easy. They’re masters of tangents and can find that six degrees of separation between math homework and a coconut bra, and you won’t know you got from one to the other till you’re there. We concept-dump like no other, where we come up with an idea and flesh it out on the spot.
4. Ne doms social wizards. They can extrapolate so many things from posture, clothing, hair, place a person is sitting, and make connections between those to figure out how to approach them. And because they collect and explore ALL possibilities, many of those connections aren’t rooted in stereotypes.
5. Ne doms are super curious. They’ll be the first to ask “What if?”, and will be the first to investigate because they live for connections. They are all about exploring, both in the physical realm and in concepts and ideas. They learn so much from pursuing these curiosities as well.
6. Ne doms are fucking optimistic as hell. I’m cynical, and I’m still super Pollyanna when my friends need it. Every time you’re afraid of the future, an Ne dom will tell you “Anything is possible”, and it won’t seem scary. They see all the things that could go wrong, just as you do, but they also see all the ways things can go right. And they see all the ways you can manipulate your outcomes. They also know that “just because it doesn’t happen now, doesn't mean it won’t happen ever”.
7. That skill of seeing all also makes them super adaptable. They can prep for any outcome they can think of (unless they’re “sure” it won’t happen). This makes it super easy for them to accept change, if they don’t already crave it. They can mold themselves to any situation or person without losing themselves.
And that’s only a few of the ways to tell someone’s an Ne dom!! Only some of the ways we are special!! That’s why I get so annoyed about Ne stereotypes. We are way more than “LOL sO rAndOM!! XDD” (most especially because we have stress Si, but that’s another post). We are intelligent in the ways most only dream of. We get to end goals, conclusions, solutions, resolutions, preferences, etc, quicker than nearly any other type. We have such great ways of innovating and inspiring! Why do you think ENTPs seem like such inventive geniuses? Why do you think ENFPs are secretly insightful as hell? Why do you think ENxPs love a fucking challenge?! We are almost exclusively getting our hands dirty with our futures, and we’re the sole ones who are looking at the road ahead with hope and excitement and FUCKING AMAZEMENT because possibility is such a beautiful force of nature.
We shouldn’t have to prove ourselves so often. The future is coming, whether you’re ready or not. (Because we are.)
Quick and Dirty Typing Guide
So I saw this ask, and I kind of have a problem with it bc the “list of preferences” isn’t a very good typing method. SO, I decided to share my quick-type guide I like use for BASIC TYPING. I like to ask a few basic questions for quick-typing. Mind, they’re based in some stereotypes and are only a couple questions, but they’re just for guiding to a type when there isn’t a quiz readily available. Then I suggest reading up on the cognitive stack to compare (a single-letter difference can make a HUGE difference in the cognitive stack, the least amount of difference being the E vs I comparisons).
My letter-by-letter comparisons:
E vs. I - Avoid questions like “do you like people?”/”do you prefer books over parties”/etc bc that is some extreme stereotyping bs. Try:
“How long does it take for a social situation to exhaust you?” I - they tend to only be able to handle a few hours for the most part. The more people in a social situation, the less time (though it really depends on the person they’re with). Though, some can go up to a day with the right person, but that tends to be a single person. E - they can either do long stretches of time with a few people, or a few hours or more with many people. The only exceptions are the “ambivert” types (ENxPs), but even they can go for longer stretches of time than their introverted counterparts (depending on the group or person).
Either way, these are trends we’re talking about here, and they fall similarly to to “how do u feel about people” kinds of questions. My preferred question is:
“Do you take time to yourself when you need to process information or do you find someone you trust to talk it out with to process?” I - they can process and think things through by themselves, but they do need that time to themselves to do so. For example, when making a big decision, they may mull it over by themselves for a few days or maybe grind it out themselves in a few minutes to a few hours. They do not need to externalize their thoughts. E - they tend to be the ones who need to talk things out to process, but they do need someone to bounce off of. When Es have a big decision, they may go talk to a parent, a sibling, a friend, etc., to explain the context and talk about where they want to go/where they should go/etc. They don’t get very far internalizing their thoughts.
Both questions are based in stereotypes, though, since the E/I only refers to if you introvert or extrovert your dominant cognitive function. More on that later.
N vs S - I’m sure there are some really stupid and stereotypical tests on this, none of which I’ll use. I won’t say I’m not biased towards intuitives (I am), but sensor stereotypes tend to be very annoying and rigid and narrow-minded, and I’m not for that.
"Define time." Yes, I’m aware this request is confusingly vague. That’s on purpose, it’s meant to make people default. S - they will tend to default to facts, concrete experience. Measurements particularly, because sensors tend to perceive in either a single point or a very limited set of points (why they end up being more detail-oriented than intuitives). N - they tend to default to ideas, abstract concepts. They tend to paint a whole picture (or worse, a theatrical production) because they perceive in MANY sets of points and how they all relate (that “big picture” thinking).
Another pretty stereotypical one, but without the intuitive bias, because it does semi-relate to how each type actually perceives.
F vs T - I kind of hate the whole “feelers have a lot of feelings” thing. Not because I don’t have a lot of feelings, but just my feelings aren’t what makes me a feeler. So, avoid the “feelings” questions.
Ask them about something they hate and why they hate it. T - they make judgments and decisions based on logic. They are like a quick “true/false” machine. They generally give their reasoning based on what makes sense, so they will tend to hate things that are irrational, illogical, or don’t make sense. F - they make judgments based on values. They have a hierarchy of “right/wrong” that they go through to even decide how they feel. They usually give reasoning based on their beliefs, so they tend to hate things that violate their core values.
This is probably the least stereotyped differentiation on this guide, but it isn’t flawless. Anything that doesn’t really require much thought (or is too on-the-spot) can cause people to default to their tertiary function (if their tert is a judging function) which can be opposite to their actual judging function. You kind of wanna incite a rant with this one, that’ll really get you insight.
P vs J - The number of times I’ve heard “I’m not a P because I’m really judgmental” or “I’m not a J because I’m not judgmental”.... There’s not a lot I hate more than that.
“When you’re taking a trip, what is the first thing you do?” P - they are gonna lean more towards the “leap before they look” type. This question is meant to figure out if they’re gonna wing it, and Ps generally tend to wing it. J - they are the “look before you leap” kind of person. They’ll answer this question with a structured plan (and possibly a scheduled itinerary) of method of travel, trip activities, what/when to pack, and so on.
Contrast this with the F vs T question, this is probably the most stereotyped question of all the letters. The P or J in a type actually refers to whether on not a person extroverts their perceiving function or their judging function.
Like I’ve said, it’s not super accurate, but it’s really easy to get into a ballpark for a type. Further reading (especially of cognitive functions!!) will help to pinpoint a type.
Another thing, you can be very borderline on a letter, but you cannot be both. Because even switching one letter will significantly change a cognitive stack. But, that is a post for another time! Either way, everyone tends to be one letter or the other, and any doubt can be cleared up in your cognitive stack.
Thanks for reading, and happy typing!!
ENFPs making a decision
Inspired by this post, via my s.o. @chosengamer
Ne: Well, I have constructed a detailed, vivid flow chart of what could happen if you choose x and what could happen if you choose y Fi: and I'm in the process of labeling each possibility with color-coded sticky that will tell you how you feel Te: how much time do we have Fi: what? Te: do we have to make this decision immediately
Scenario 1- Ne: no Te: we will decide this later -postpone decision until a scenario 2 or 3 happens- Scenario 2- Ne: yes Te: WHY DIDNT YOU SAY SO. THERES NO TIME TO COLOR CODE. WE MUST MAKE THE MOST EFFECTIVE OPTION IMMEDIATELY Si: we canNOT dally, remember that time we fucked up bc we waited too long Fi: I really don't know about this Ne: -getting drowned in a bucket by Te- Si: also we can't pick the -wrong- option bc remember all those times we fucked up Te: THIS ONE (somehow picks the option Fi doesn't like) Si: Time To Wallow :)
Scenario 3- Ne: no Te: we will decide later Fi: I feel like we have time to decide now Te: -narrows eyes- I'll allow it Fi: -continues color coding- Si: remember that situation that was similar to this one Ne: let me take down repeats of past mistakes Fi: seems like option x is the best option Si: hey I'm gonna tell a funny story kinda similar to x where we fucked up Fi: NO
i really adore this image
everyone is looking all dapper and fancy for this bizarro mafia-style photoshoot- even the five-year-old gets a special fun-sized suit and tie that’s done up all proper
and then
fucking Yamamoto
rolled out of bed five minutes ago, flung on a jacket and went ‘yeah sure this’ll do’
look at them, kicked back and chilling like the work week just ended. there’s no shame. no regret. just yamamoto’s low-key hatred of coordinated formalities
picked up some merch while I was at comic con yesterday!