#fe dom

[rainytypology]

MBTI Grip: Ti

Brief explanation. May change/add more later.

List of MBTI notes

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 Grips occur when a type is under an immense amount of stress. Their other functions give up mentally and "shut down", which allows their inferior function to take over. A type in the grip begins to act like the unhealthy version of their inferior function, very unlike and opposite of themselves. Grips can last for a short while or longer, depending on how long the stress persists.

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Inferior Ti: ExFJs

Inferior Ti types may have a hard time explaining their own decisions and reasonings. They know what they want to say but don't know how to say it. Logical deduction and such can be confusing to them, so they may not feel "smart" compared to types with a better use of Ti (or thinking functions in general). They may be overly critical of themselves and feel self conscious.

 In the grip, Fe doms may lose hope in humanity. They may start to lack in feeling empathy/sympathy for others, overall just passive about people. Fe makes choices based on what they think would bring social harmony and for everyone's benefit. In a Ti grip, they "lose" this ability and try too hard to seek for the most truthful and logical answer. They overthink and over analyze.

Fe types should learn how to deal with criticism better. Know it's okay to have disagreements - everyone has different opinions and beliefs, you can't control that. Learn to take the time to sort and think through problems. Take time to care for themselves, make sure their own needs are being met rather than worrying how everyone else is doing (often an Fe dom problem).

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MBTI notes

[typingcharacters]

Love Quinn (’You’ Netflix) - ENFJ

ENFJ [Fe-Ni-Se-Ti]

Fe: The 'Extroverted Feeling' (Fe) is a function of objective judgment, where its users start from the premise that its values ​​must contemplate the external needs of the social atmosphere, valuing the well-being and structuring of a more harmonious society. It is quite natural that the user of Fe understands social dynamics, as well as human behavior (how we act, how we get emotional, our motivations...).

Fe (Unhealthy): The unhealthy Fe user can play many different roles and dissociations when unhealthy. They can be extremely manipulative, and use their skill and knowledge of other people for personal gain. Furthermore, the Fe user can be quite resentful when individual actions disrupt and disrupt the social environment, precisely because they see these attitudes as selfish. If Fe users have been subjected to injustices in a social aspect, a bitterness can develop in their directive to the point of going against authorities, institutions and humanity in general. And in this case, unlike user Fi (healthy), who seeks to understand their own actions, in a sense of self-blame and try a corrective attitude, for Fe user, the world is seen as responsible for their pain and they will charge moral condemnation in every opportunity.

➥  Fe [Dominant]: At the end of season two, we find out that Love Quinn plays a different persona than her true personality in attracting Joe. She incorporates a sweet artist focused on her personal life to make him fall in love with her. This knowledge came from her astuteness in understanding the profile of the victims selected by Joe and acting as someone other than herself, as a form of psychological manipulation. In season three, her commitment to her social roles becomes an even stronger tie in her life, especially through her efforts to be a good mother and wife. She starts from a series of attempts to rekindle the marriage, and uses the advice of her new friend Sherry to make it come alive. Love Quinn sets out to be the ideal "mother and wife" commonly seen in the community, taking family photos, throwing community parties, and actively participating in their proposed activities.

Ni: The 'introverted intuition' (Ni) is a function in which the user assumes the role of an observer far from the literal world, trying to understand situations through a chain of events that connect forming patterns, thus, a function of convergence. The Ni user will constantly "feel" that there is something more to discover and is not content with what he sees only on the surface. These hunches of Ni user are called visions. An elaborated vision inevitably develops on the basis of these abstract relationships, designed to give predictability to the life and continuity of the narrative. The world is never seen literally by the Ni user. Furthermore, these users prefer caution and are always thinking about what "comes next" to prepare for possible events that might happen.

Ni (Unhealthy): When Ni users assume their unhealthy form, they can rely too much on their intuitions, to the point of ignoring tangible reality, avoiding any kind of situation that could be compromising according to their hunch. In addition, their suspicions can bring to light a false interpretation of events, and feel that there is "something more" to everything, even reaching paranoia. The user of unhealthy Ni can also get stuck in his tunnel vision, to the point where he doesn't see any other possibilities in his life than the one he has already pre-established, going so far as to be extremely perfectionist in order to achieve his vision. If he doesn't have tunnel vision, his central focus may be the search for something meaningful and metaphorical, which if healthy, elevates Ni's thoughts and brings light to his perception of the world, but if extreme, it can lead to exaggerated perfectionism.

➥ Ni [Aux]: Love Quinn is not seen as an observer of the world all the time, besides being more present than the dominant Ni, but as an auxiliary function, her role is played along with her Fe as a way of perceiving the world through a own perspective of convergence, after judging the situation in an valuative and objective way. Love Quinn constantly presents her intuitions in how she perceives situations beyond the surface, especially in her relationship with Joe. She prefers to trust her hunches from her conscience rather than something she has withheld through past events. In the final episode of season three, Love Quinn discovers that Joe cheated on her with Marienne when she intertwined the fact that he was always late from work (a pattern of behavior) with the "sudden" death of Marienne's ex-husband. She observes the patterns of situations and comes to the conclusion of the situation: her husband did not love her, after encountering a new obsession. This all stemmed from his feeling that Joe was acting strangely and later observing this pattern. Other situations where her Ni is evident is in the creation of her tunnel vision in her relationship with Joe in season two, when she organizes a scheme to become a new "obsession" of him and possibly have a deeper relationship. This whole relationship still builds on Love Quinn's attribution of meaning, making it deeper by saying they are "soul mates" in something like "we were meant to be together", repeating this even in her death. She spends the entire season acting through that vision, finding ways to keep Joe in a relationship with a fake persona. She finally manages to keep this relationship more productive after telling Joe she was pregnant.

Se: 'Extraverted Sensing' (Se) is a 'camera' function where its users observe the world exactly as it appears in high fidelity. It is a highly realistic function and a Se user's focus is linear rather than divergent (Ne). They will want to delve deeply into the experience of one thing, rather than spreading out in a broad and limited way. Unsolicited tangents can be very upsetting for them. In addition, users of Se find it extremely easy to act in the moment, both adapting and improvising.

Se (Unhealthy): The Se user in their sick phase may be overindulgent with sensory pleasures, plunging into excesses and addictions. Also, when unhealthy this leads them to avoid thinking about the future, wanting to stay fully in the present and live in the moment, and this can lead to situations of impulsiveness. In other situations, the Se user's stress can manifest itself in unhealthy opportunism. The function Se will always be looking, to great advantage, for the best possible experience and, when distressed, this impulsiveness can lead to certain unethical behaviors.

➥ Se [Tert]: As a tertiary function, your Se manifests her Self in an uncontrolled and exalted way, inevitably in an unhealthy way. In season three, at times when her marriage to Joe wasn't so good, Love followed her feelings of impulse, abusing sensory pleasures like having sex with Theo. The manifestation of Se not healthy can also lead its users to have certain unethical behaviors, this passage is seen in Love Quinn throughout the season when she kills Natalie to keep her marriage "on track" and when she does the same with Theo, for the " well" of his family.

Ti: 'Introverted Thinking' (Ti) is a logical and subjective analysis function, which starts from your own internal thought system when solving problems and judging situations/events. The functioning of the IT is more informal, holistic, qualitative and improvised in nature. In this sense, the user of Ti tends to reduce norms/ideas/social things into parts, but not necessarily with the pretense of putting them back together. These thoughts will occupy the mind of the Ti user continually and can cause things to lose their value as the process of reduction takes away all meaning. The user Ti will be constantly questioning himself about everything, and being guided by the motto: "what makes sense to me?"

➥ Ti [Inferior]: As an inferior function, Love Quinn represses her Ti constantly to remain in her judgment via Fe, which mostly starts from an impulse to protect other people. The manifestation of her inferior function represents a disconcerting part of the character that often needs Joe's help to "fix" problems. Love kills Natalie to "protect" her marriage and doesn't check the general aspects of the crime, such as hiding the body, check the phone's GPS, among others. Also, the critical part of Love Quinn always appears in the dark, and this happens when she attends Sherry's party and severely criticizes each of the party guests pointing out everyone's faults, however, she remains with a smile on her face. In a moment of stress, Love Quinn takes on a more discerning role, criticizing her mother's book, and Sherry and Cary's "false and media" marriage.

[mbtiofwhys]

Ann Takamaki

ESFJ

Functional Order: Fe - Si - Ne - Ti

Spoiler warning This article will cover Ann’s analysis and there’ll be references to Persona 5, alongside with events from her confidant.

Judging Functional Axis

Extroverted Feeling (Fe) / Introverted Thinking (Ti)

Ann is a sweet and caring girl, who often offers moral support and cheers others up, more than giving logical advice. All her focus as a person and mostly as a phantom thief lays on giving people hope and the will to fight through her own strength - she wants to be a source of inspiration for everyone, both as a model and as a vigilante. As a Fe dom, she often comes up with fun and engaging activities to do all together, she is the most enthusiastic towards parties and holds very dear the general happiness and cohesion of the group. She doesn’t want to leave people behind and is very hard on herself for not being able to help Shiho when she needed it: this is why Ann wants not only to make up for not acting sooner, but also feels the need to help a bigger number of people. She is also very welcoming of new members in the group, even if they got off on the wrong foot - think about Yusuke (who she found kinda creepy at first) and mostly Makoto. Ann was very harsh with Makoto, as she saw her as a threat for the group and as a person who doesn’t care for others and only looks for her own benefit. After discovering Makoto’s situation though, she understands her better and apologises, effectively making the first and most important step towards reconciliation. Furthermore, both Makoto’s investigation and Mika’s rivalry are two good example of what happens when Fe is under stress: instead of approaching the situation rationally (inf Ti), Ann lashes out against them and resents them on a personal level. She can’t focus anymore and tends to act in an irrational, emotional way, using her Ti to attack people instead of reflecting upon what’s happening. Her confidant in particular shows the development of her Si (we’ll talk more about it later) and her Ti. She makes peace with the fact that Mika is a better model than her because she’s confident and puts a serious effort in what she’s doing. In the end, Ann finds her own merits and learns to build the self-assurance she was looking for in order to confront Mika in a more mature way, so she can pursue her dream of becoming a model to inspire people from the covers.

Perceiving Functional Axis

Introverted Sensing (Si) / Extroverted Intuition (Ne) 

Ann’s auxiliary Si is admittedly not very easy to spot, as it doesn’t show that much during the regular plot and is absent during most of her confidant since she starts in a loop. The whole point of Ann’s confidant in fact is to become stronger: a stronger person, a stronger thief, a better model, a better friend. But dealing with Shiho’s attempted suicide and the whole Kamoshida scandal affected her so much that she shuts down her introverted, auxiliary function and responds to stress by charging forward full speed ahead. She’s insecure of herself and her strength, and instead of taking a moment to reflect on herself, her experience and the steps she needs to take from that moment onward (healthy auxiliary Si), she proceeds with a trial and error approach that in the end only leaves her frustrated. It’s only when she understands that becoming a model is though and focuses on what she has to do, little by little, that she’s able to proceed on that path with a clear mind. In the end, she becomes less of a airhead and more aware of the attitude that allows her to successfully build relationships with her coworkers. She’s also satisfied with “not being a top model just yet”, but she’s determined to proceed by steps and slow progress. Generally speaking, her Si can be observed in her being more sensitive than intuitive, she doesn’t think much in abstract and doesn’t look for a bigger picture. Her Ne is still present though, as Ann can be very open towards new options and, inside the group, is often the first one who questions their action when a solid counterargument comes - usually from Akechi.

Also typed as ENFP

We can understand why ENFP is a popular typing for Ann, especially since her Ne is more easily spotted than her Si - it also seems that ENFP is a frequent mistype for ESFJs (take a look at Mayuri from Stein’s;Gate if you’re curious.) As we’ve stated, this can be explained with a loop, and looking at her confidant, Ann is a pretty textbook example of what a FeNe loop looks like: only relying on what people think about you and trying everything that pops up in your head in order to accomplish your goal of being liked, accepted or becoming a source of admiration. We agree that her Si isn’t very strong, so we also proceeded by elimination in typing her:

ENFP would mean auxiliary Fi, but if there’s a trait that is beyond doubt in Ann, is her high and strong Fe. Fi, even if auxiliary, would imply a stronger sense of self (which Ann lacks) and a more individualistic approach to life, especially if identity and morals are involved. Ann’s focus lays on other people, not on ideas and even less on her own sense of self;

ENFJ implies auxiliary Ni + tertiary Se, where Ni provides the envisioned, clear goal that one wants to reach and Se pushes the person towards taking concrete action to achieve said goal and being generally proactive in life. Ann isn't like that, as she tends to be fickle and open to try different approaches to reach her goal (which, by the way, is far from clear and defined);

Generally assuming that she’s an Extrovert (which in our opinion cannot be questioned) and that the functions involved are Fe, Ne, Si and Ti, this leaves two options open: ENTP and ESFJ. We believe that is agreeable that ENTP cannot be an option thinking about Ann. So, this leaves ESFJ.

On a final note, we’d like to add that fictional characters aren’t real people. Typing them is fun and can be a good way to learn MBTI, but plot writing and consistency are two factors that must be taken into consideration as well. Regarding Ann, these are two problems that we’ve found, as the regular plot doesn’t show her personality in a rounded way and, functionally speaking, only tends to focus on her Fe. So, we’re aware that there aren’t a ton of evidences that point to aux Si, but some can be found nonetheless - so, ESFJ seems like the only type that suits her.

[typhoulogy]

How each dominant function is perfectionist

Te-dom: everything is running perfectly in the external world - results are predictably consistent with expectations.

Ti-dom: the logical system is perfectly consistent, accounts for every contingency, and works without error.

Fe-dom: one’s behaviour secures positive social feedback, while everyone honours their social roles and responsibilities.

Fi-dom: personal beliefs and actions are perfectly consistent with one another.

Se-dom: one’s actions are perfectly in sync with the environment.

Si-dom: all expected details are present and well-accounted for without anything unexpected and therefore disruptive happening in place.

Ne-dom: the stream of inspiration that allows for growth in leaps and bounds is neither blocked, nor exhausted. 

Ni-dom: everything falls into place according to one’s vision, and no observed action is unpredictable or misunderstood. 

[dearmbti]

Dear ENxJs, why do I feel like your constant movement is just a way of avoiding dealing with existential angst?

[entpstruggles]

My ESFJ mom can’t understand that I don’t like people touching me, she just doesn't get it lmao

[lilylollipop96]

Tertiary Se will be the death of me.

[solarpunksoftie]

MBTI types as aesthetic blogs

Se Dom: Stim aesthetics (slime, glitter, squish)

Si Dom: Nature/Plant aesthetics (succulents, gardening, sunsets)

Ne Dom: Fandom Aesthetics (character mood boards, harry potter houses, media inspired art)

Ni Dom: Travel aesthetics (maps, famous cities, ticket stubs)

Fe Dom: Aesthetic request blogs

Fi Dom: Interior decorating aesthetics (colorful kitchens, cozy fireplaces, cute wall art)

Te Dom: Satisfying aesthetics (flawless assembly lines, calligraphy, perfect magnets)

Ti Dom: Study aesthetics (old books, chalkboards, calculator messages)