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eternally upset by the fact that there’s no button to hug people in tw3, especially after harrowing events (like the reason of state quest)
also eternally upset by. dijkstra
BANG! BANG! // Ves of the Blue Stripes
She’s the prodigy of the Hound, she’s a mean motherfucker, she’s gonna shoot you dead!
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Hi!! Sorry for asking but I can't get blorbos out of my head and I need to annoy someone.
What do you think of Roche and Ves's relationship? Could Ves possibly turn against Roche and overthrow him? I still can't get over that quest with Milfgaard where Ves straight up disobeyed and maybe at some point questioned his leadership in her mind. It's sad to think that the most important person in Roche's life could just left him all alone and now I'm torturing myself by thinking about it :,)
Anon I think about the Vernon and Ves relationship so much you have no idea. The main thing that strikes me about it is the odd undefined space that they exist in, largely as a result of their circumstances. As commander and soldier, the other aspects of their relationship are there but sort of silent. To try and define it could potentially be an abuse of power on Roche's part. So we have to question as the audience: Is it father/daughter? Older brother/little sister? Potential lovers? We don't know, but we do know that these two are attached to each other, nearly inseparable.
Roche rescued a teenage Ves and she's been at his side for years. They've seen their king die, their country fall and possibly rise again, they've lost the Blue Stripes, their friends. Their community. All gone. But after that they were always together.
That one blip of separation and disagreement in the Witcher 3 is there. But it's not a failing of care or loyalty on either's part, not really. Roche was (necessarily) in a position where he had to keep alliances with Nilfgaard a secret. From what we've seen the only people who knew about that whole arrangement at the time were Thaler and Emhyr. Could Roche have been open with Ves about this? Maybe. But he kept it quiet, so we don't know.
Ves' side in that is also worth talking about. From her perspective, Roche is abandoning Temerians to Nilfgaard which is distinctly out of character for him. But its also a situation which directly mirrors her own background. A village being razed, it's people murdered? The only thing that changes is instead of it being Scoia'tael attacking it's the Nilfs. Of course she'd be upset by what looks like Roche's negligence from her perspective. She doesn't know that he's doing what he can to maintain a fragile tentative alliance.
Of course the interactions surrounding that gives the most credence to the father and daughter interpretation of their relationship. Between Vernon trying to ground Ves the first time, the complaining about what she's wearing not because it's tits out for Temeria but because he was afraid she'd be hurt, and then grounding her again. One thing is clear: he cares for Ves. A lot. He's terrified he'd lose her.
And if you're worried about her leaving, I'll remind you of what happens after. Vernon tries to go to Kaer Morhen alone, and Ves doesn't let him. She follows him, that whole issue with the village more or less behind them. They go back to Temeria together, Ves gets brought into the fold where killing Radovid is concerned. And if Geralt chooses it, they can even see their kingdom live again, even if they have oversight from Nilfgaard.
What happens to them after? We don't know. But I imagine they wouldn't separate, not unless they had to. They love each other too much, even if they don't get to say that aloud.
Currently thinking about how Roche must've taught Ves how to use throwing knives, since he often uses them in combat, and you can challenge Ves to a throwing knife contest in that one quest. And she's really good at it. i'm just emotional about them
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if (and hopefully/probably when) Iorveth comes back I think i’d actually prefer that his conflict be with Ves if it came down to any specific person. Like Roche is such old news in the game storyline and he got his ending in a semi-truce with Nilfgaard.
but Ves has so much of her life before her and stands to direct the future values and operations of the Temerian military in a more active sense than an aging Roche. I’d just love to see how she internalizes Roche’s teachings, and if she’d be able to finally break the cycle and begin to repay Iorveth and the Elves through her own service, or if she’d succumb to the environment that raised her and become another member of the ‘dying species’ that Iorveth has to laugh at as it withers away