#veterinary school

[sspacegodd]

Wii Veterinarian School

[doodlehorseafternoon]

The real struggle of graduating vet school and now being colleagues with so many doctors?

Can I call you by your first name now or will I forever be uncomfortable doing so

Stay tuned, this week on “New Doctor”....

[johnnfail]

Where are you going to college? Or are you?

i definitely went to veterinary school.

[askavettech]

Hey Jay! Recently I have found myself back in the world of veterinary medicine after taking a few years to decide what I wanted to do and finish my undergrad degree in Management instead of Animal Science which is what I was pursuing when I started my college journey. At the age of 27 (for the next two months) I have decided that I do in fact want to pursue my dream of applying to vet school and I have been trying to connect with folks who have experienced applying and I was wondering if you would be open to sharing your experience with me. Hope you're doing well recovering your knee! Talk soon,

GT

Ahahhahhhhaahhh you poor naive FOOL!

I'm just kidding - we're happy to have you back in the field!

But I won't lie to you, the journey to vet school is butts. I'm still on it, still wanting to go the distance, but it's stiiillll butts.

So GT, first things first, RESEARCH YOUR SCHOOLS. You gotta know their minimum requirements, their prerequisites, their DUE DATES, their additional fees (it's all about additional fees), and anything else you can get from their websites, emails, and VMCAS.

Ahahhahhhhaahhh you poor naive FOOL!

I'm just kidding - we're happy to have you back in the field! 

But I won't lie to you, the journey to vet school is butts. I'm still on it, still wanting to go the distance, but it's stiiillll butts. 

So GT, I’m gonna give you a bulleted list of what I think are the most important things you need to know before and while applying for veterinary school starting in the 2024 cycle.

Set up an account at VMCAS (aka Veterinary Medical College Application Service) The site doesn’t open until January (when the application cycle for 2024 starts), but keep the site bookmarked and check back frequently so you can stay updated.

On that note, check out AAVMC (American Association of Veterinary Medical Colleges)  Here you can get the lowdown on ALL the veterinary schools, which can inform your decision on which to apply to

The most important information you are going to want to focus on; 1. DUE DATES - for all applications, fees, and coursework a. Put them in your calendar, on sticky notes, on your forehead - whatever you need to do to not miss them. Once they’re passed, you’re out of luck 2. Minimum prerequisite course requirements (coursework and grades) a. Also, know that prerequisite coursework expires after ten years. It's BS and I’m dealing with that right now ugh 2. Letters of recommendations 

You will need at least three - no exceptions - and at least one needs to come from a licensed veterinarian

All your previous academic records, relevant experience, volunteer work, and anything else that is even slightly animal/veterinary related that can beef up your application

You will have to dig back through your old transcripts (you’ll need to get an official one) and get all your old coursework - it is very important to get your grades and courses correct/exact on the application

They’re gonna ask for very specific dates, hours, and numbers so just do the best you can in documenting this

The next part of the application(s) is all about personal essays. The standard application has its own base essays and then each individual application for each school has its own essays.

Spend the most time on this. Every admissions person I have talked to says that the essays are where it’s at. Try to make yourself stand out from the crowd - explain your reasonings for wanting to be a vet beyond “I like animals,” and do your best to tell your story.

Sidenote: If you plan to apply to the two colleges in Texas, there is an entirely DIFFERENT application called the TMDSAS (Texas Medical & Dental Schools Application Service) you will have to make an account for, fill out, have your letter of recommendation sent to, and pay for. It's very annoying because Texas thinks it's just so special. (I live in Texas I can say these things)

I wanna say that’s everything? I’m sure there is more, but the listed websites help a lot too. 

I also want to say, don’t get discouraged. Most people don’t get in on their first try. Not saying you won’t! It’s just statistics. So if you don’t get in, keep trying! Lord knows we need more vets! 

Best of luck to you and if you need any more help, you know where to find me!

[dogtorari]

Today in lab I learned how our kidneys and urinary system cleans itself out/filtration and how urine is made.

[cleopatrachampagne]

all creatures great and small, james herriot

this is some important advice for any career working with animals. focus on the little triumphs and learn from the disasters, don’t commit if you aren’t willing to live an unpredictable life, and when in doubt have some more damned whisky.

[phantom-of-the-keurig]

I had a meeting with my mentor for the semester and for some reason I was extremely nervous even though he was super nice and easy to talk to. Anyway he asks me what kind of animals I’d like to work with / what my goals are post grad and for some reason my socially anxious ass went,

“Small animal and exotics…..OH! And Alligators.”

[adventuresofanoverachiever]

Student Loan Debt Is Not Just Useless Degrees

Student loan debt has been a hot topic in the news lately, and many people are vocal with their thoughts.  I wanted to use this post as a way to counter some of the negative comments I see about student loans using my own personal experience with my $200+ in student loan debt.

1.) “They learned absolutely nothing in college and obtained worthless degrees with absolutely no future.“

Many of those with my current education combo are nearing retirement age, and I’ve heard from several different employers (in different sectors) that it’s a growing concern that more younger veterinarians need to enter my particular field of study (related to research).  I had no issues finding a job after graduation.  Throughout my studies, I had several job offers, and I’ve still received the occasional verbal offer (”You’re a vet, our clinic needs more help.”)

2.) “Maybe they should be saving their Starbucks latte money to pay off their loans.”

I don’t drink coffee, and I don’t drink alcohol.  Yes, I will occasionally get a fancy frappe (or bubble tea), but not often and usually when I hung out with friends.  I was guilty of eating a ton of fast food during school, but I ordered things mainly off the dollar menu.  I also skipped breakfast.  Although I’d occasionally do a weekend trip (once or twice a year), I haven’t had a major vacation in many years (brought work with me if I did travel with family/friends), and I traveled cheaply.  I do have dogs, but what’s a veterinarian without a pet?  Veterinary care was cheap while I was in school since I got discounts on everything.

3.) “You signed the loan papers, you owe the debt!”

I did agree to take on the debt, and it’s my burden to carry.  I was also counseled on loan repayment options too, and I knew that income-based plans (which forgive loans after 20 or 25 years of payments) were an option.  I was also informed on the Public Service Loan Forgiveness Program.  I knew going into my debts that forgiveness programs existed and would be a viable option for my career goals.

4.) “If you don’t like the high cost of tuition, There are plenty other options that don’t require you to go to college and pay that much”

I came from a low-income family, and I am a first-generation college graduate.  If it wasn’t for student loans, I would not have been able to obtain my degrees in the first place. College isn’t for everyone.  Sure, there are high-paying jobs that don’t require a college education, but college definitely was for me.  Is it fair to deny me the opportunity to attend veterinary school because I was born into a family that couldn’t financially support my education?

5.) “These students who owe hundreds of thousands of dollars b/c they went to an expensive college...it's on them to pay for it. “

For my undergraduate education, I went to an in-state public university.  I was forced to attend veterinary school at an out-of-state school because my home state does not have a veterinary school.  Veterinary school is expensive, and many students are only accepted into one or two schools if they receive an acceptance at all.  Veterinarians are not paid enough for the debt they incur.  While I may qualify for PSLF, the majority of my classmates will not.

6.) “I went to school with a full scholarship.”

I had a full tuition scholarship for my undergraduate education and a partial scholarship for living costs.  It’s extremely difficult to get a full ride scholarship for veterinary school.  I don’t know anyone in my class that had one.  A lot of scholarships are geared towards undergraduate students, and the scholarships for veterinary students are limited and highly competitive.  I had a partial tuition waiver and scholarship for my veterinary school education due to my specific program, but it only partially covered my tuition.  My living expenses were 100% covered by loans during veterinary school.   I received a graduate stipend and tuition waiver during my grad school years (except my last semester), but it was not nearly enough to cover all costs (especially medical - student health insurance was awful). 7.) “I worked 4 jobs to put myself through college”

I held a few jobs with variable hours to earn a little extra income during undergrad; however, in order to remain competitive for veterinary school, I spent a majority of my time outside classes volunteering and shadowing.  This is all while pursuing a double-major and minor.  Holding a job during vet school is not feasible for most, although I did make some funds during the summer between my first and second year of school.  There was also a period of time in the lab where I was not paid, but I had to be in the lab when I was not in class.

8.) “further education is free if you join the military”

A few of my classmates did go into the army after their 1st year of veterinary school, but that program is ultra-selective and only accepts a few people a year (usually 0-2 per school).  Yes, I could consider applying for it now that I've finished schooling, but I’m personally pursuing a different avenue for loan repayment.  It’s also not a decision to be taken lightly, and it doesn’t work for everyone.

9.) “My son worked 3 jobs to pay his student loans off. If he can do it, so can everyone else. It's called responsibility “

At my current income-based payment plan, the interest I would incur is more than my payments.  I could take on a second job, but even with that, I’d barely be making much progress and would burn myself out.  I’m in a higher income bracket than I was growing up, but it definitely doesn’t feel like it.  My loan payments are on pause, but I’ve got a higher cost of living and have been working to pay off some other debts.  For many veterinarians, they are already working well past the normal 40 hours a week.  There’s no way they could take on a second job, and many veterinarians are already burnt-out from the spike in pandemic pets.

10.) “If the government wants to jump in and help with outrageous student loans, then cancel the interest. The banks still get their money, the student will still learn responsibility, and the taxpayer won't be saddled with even more debt they didn't accumulate.”

Canceling $10,000 of my student loan debt would only partially erase some interest on my student loans, so it’s not placing my educational burden on the taxpayers. Canceling all interest on my student loans would erase well over the proposed $10,000 loan forgiveness, so that would be a better deal for me personally.

And the most recent one I’ve seen: 

“So the people that have become doctors, lawyers we’re gonna cancel their debt?“

Veterinarians don’t make much for the debt they incur.  I know individuals with only an undergraduate degree in engineering that make well over my salary.  Some of them have been out of school for a while and are experienced in the real world, so I’m sure that contributes.  However, my point here is that it’s not fair to single out individuals with a professional degree.  A professional degree does not equate to a high salary in all cases.

I’m not looking for sympathy from the Tumblr world, and I know there are many who are in a much worse situation than me.  There are people who are struggling to live with their student loans.  Some of them made bad decisions in their education, but that’s not the case for everyone with student loan debt. The main purpose of my post was to point out that there are quite a few misconceptions about individuals with student loan debt. 

 I may be in crippling student loan debt, but I have a plan to tackle it.  I can handle it, and I’m not personally asking the government to forgive my student loans without me doing something to earn it.  I do, however, think student loans are in need of an overhaul (lower interest rates, revamped forgiveness programs, etc).