#vnc loki

[kamadramallama]

more vnc

[yuuta-okkotsuu]

ye saga continues

[resssistance]

Oh, not Noriaki Sugiyama voicing Loki in VnC...

[ryusei0]

I have to admits that the Oriflamme boys stole my heart

So I didn’t only notice the lions and the throne thing but there is another thing.

First lets talk about Luca, although he is still a child he held the position as the grand duke, thats why he is trying to act mature despite his young age while he should act as his age. it is normal for him to act childish most of the time because HE IS STILL A CHILD! but he even told Noe that his action was not ‘mature’ when he attacked them. Luca is trying his best to live up to the expectations while holding himself sometime.

=what I had notice=

Luca seems to have some kind of behavior or a habit when he is nervous, scared, worried, angry, shy,emotional, irritated, annoyed or uncomfortable in general. he clenches his fists or holds any part of his clothes\bag and sometimes he bring his hands near to his chest as if he was embracing himself. I think this is his body’s respond of what he is feeling or a way for him to calm himself down and staying stable. as a child he is living under stress and pressure of both his position and Loki’s condition, so I think it is possible for him to have this kind of behavior.

but there is only one time that was different a little bit, when they sensed Faustina’s presence. Luca was terrified, while his left hand stayed on his thigh his right hand went directly to clench Loki’s trousers, then Loki calmed him down and patted his head

-this baby seems to have an extremely soft and fluffy head I want to play with it XD-

and this actually reminded me when Ruthven patted Luca’s head saying he was worry about him, Luca immediately went back and moved away then covered his face with his hands because he was shy with his uncle’s attitude. I think he doesn’t want Ruthven to treat him as a child because as I said before he want to act as a mature and show that to everyone around him.

YET! Luca didn’t move away from Loki’s hand. which makes me think that the only person who Luca acts normally,freely or comfortable in front of is his big brother Loki

here again I remembered when Jeanne said “there could be no safer place than master Loki’s side”

I think she meant -other than Loki being powerful- is that Loki will provide a whole protection to Luca both physically and mentally. Loki is kind of a source of safety to Luca, he can feel safe and secure the most when he is with his big brother, Loki's side is Luca's comfort zone.

not to forget that Luca described Loki as his precious person.

Loki please MOVE this child still a baby he need you in his life

and as usual pls tell me what do you think

[what-on-earth-is-love]

predictions that came to me in a dream: if vnc is going to have another nonbinary character it's going to be loki and i assume that purely on their name because of the loki in norse mythology canon

[nasod-bird]

I want to see a situation where a malnomen isn’t an entirely bad thing.

We saw Jean-Jacques give up his true name willingly to protect Chloé, and we also saw Chloé give up her true name to get revenge on Naenia for Jean-Jacques.

What I want to see was not either of those, and how our protagonists react.

What I want to see is a situation where a person hates their true name so viscerally that they thought anything would be better than it, so willingly gave it up and became a curse-bearer.

Personally, I think and hope the person that will fill my desire for this is Loki.

This was an idea that briefly touched upon in Chapter 13.

Lord Ruthven says this when Noé brings up healing Loki:

“Salvation takes many forms. Being freed from the curse does not necessarily bring happiness to the person in question.”

I wonder if that was something Lord Ruthven interpreted from Loki, if it was something Loki told Lord Ruthven but not Lucas, or a mix of both.

I think this is something Vanitas already understand on some level, but Noé does not.

When Noé tells Vanitas that Jean-Jacques was the Beast and that Chloé became a curse-bearer of his accord, he says this:

“…Well, this was a wasted trip.”

At that point, he didn’t understand why either if them became curse-bearers willingly, just that they did.

This was after he was visibly saddened after he came too late to save Catherine and had to kill her in Chapter 10.

Even though afterwards Noé shakes him and demands to know what salvation is, Vanitas states that he has no idea. I’m of the opinion he does know on some level, and is either unwilling or unable to voice it.

However he also quotes words from Chapter 1.

“No matter what you want… I will save you without fail.”

Note he doesn’t say ‘heal’. Noé just interpreted this as salvation = being healed from a curse-bearer. This almost definitely comes from seeing Louis killed in front of him by his teacher as he lost control as a curse-bearer. And based on his narration at the end of Chapter 1, it still doesn’t seem like he gets over it by the time that narration occurs.

Back to Loki. He doesn’t seem bothered by the fact he’s chained up all that much. Of course he could just be hiding it for Lucas’ sake.

In the shadows in Chapter 38, right before Naenia gets incarnated, there’s a figure that looks to be Loki. And notably, his hands are not bound. I wonder why. If we go on the theory that he was bound willingly, he might genuinely not be bothered.

And that leads to what I want to see, either from Loki or someone else: a person that became a malnomen willingly for no reason other than that they loathe their true name to the point where they’re willing to do anything to get rid of it. Even warp it into a malnomen.

I feel like Loki is a good canditate for what I want to see. His given name is Loki, which is the name of the trickster god of Norse mythology. This opens up the possibility that Loki’s true name is something along the lines of Ragnarök: the events that include a great battle and lead to a death of a number of great figures, and that will submerge the current world in water.

He already makes references to the fact that “we went to the trouble of smashing her corpse up for her,” implying he was around for her death, and may have taken part.

In that vein, I theorize that his malnomen might be something like Jörmungandr, the world serpent who heralds Ragnarök by releasing it’s tail. Malnomen are shown to be related to the true name: Millie is the theater of ice and snow, and the malnomen of Canorus, she who plays snow crystals.

Lupe Garou, wolf who hunts crimson, is the malnomen of Bucolicus, he who composes Idylls. An “idyll” is defined as:

“An extremely happy, peaceful, or picturesque episode or scene, typically an idealized or unsustainable one.”

So the malnomen Lupe Garou destroys the idylls composed by Bucolicus.

And then that brings us to the first malnomen/true name pair: Eglantine, prison of briars and Florifel, she who guides spring. When one thinks of spring, they usually think of flowers. Prison of Briars can be interpreted as “the briars that strangle the spring blooms.”

They are related like Jörmungandr is to Ragnarök.

As to why I posit Jörmungandr instead of Fenrir for the malnomen? Because based on my  understanding of Norse mythology, Jörmungandr encircles Midgard, which is surrounded by water, and so large it grasps it’s own tail. When it releases its tail, Ragnarök begins, sinking Midgard into the water. It can be argued that Jörmungandr is the thing that keeps Ragnarök at bay.

Going along with this theory, if the malnomen Jörmungandr is born from Ragnarök, then “healing” the malnomen could be analogous to  “the ouroboros releasing it’s tail, and heralding the end of the world as we know it”.

This could explain why Lord Ruthven doesn’t want Loki healed.

However, this is all conjecture.

Please feel free to comment and correct me on my understanding of Vanitas no Carte ad well as Norse Mythology!

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p>Edit: I forgot about Bucolicus and Lupe Garou. And Eglanine and Florifel. Ack.

[misschastel]

(Oh well, good morning sir...you’re hot)

[ryusei0]

The sleeping lion!!

guys guys I was just reviewing some chapters but notice something!!

Luca is sitting here as the grand duke right ? so this is the grand duke Oriflmme’s chair or thron

first I thought it was the for queen Faustina but no she had a different thron

now!! we have two lions as the thron’s arms, even its legs are designed to be a lions limps

so what ? isn’t this just a design ? I don't think so!!

remember what Machina said after the meeting to Ruthven ? a sleeping lion in the Carbunculus castle is about to wake !!

what if the lion is the symbol of the Oriflames?? and the sleeping Lion is Loki himself !! we know that ‘sleeping’ doesn't have to be actual sleep maybe he was just resting his body or power, he becomes a curse bearer yes but he doesn’t seems to be very obedient to stay like this for the rest of his life, and if Ruthven was telling the truth Loki doesn’t mind staying as a curse bearer because being one is not his biggest sorrow

not to mention that Ruthven described the lion as a savage beast, and even warned Machina.

so the sleeping lion is someone powerful and actually will attack anyone mess with them even if they were Machina who is a member of the senate

and Jeanne once said that there is no place saver than Loki’s side plus Loki is one of the beastias which means he is already powerfull

please be true T.T I want to see Loki and how he will be involved in the actions.

Machina trust me if you bring him out of that garden I will love you more !!

even if the mentioned one wasn’t Loki I am exited to see the face of someone like Ruthven had called a savage beast and views as a danger being !!

pls tell me your thoughts!