#wad.amsterdam2

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Fuck dan’s promoters for real (context: person was planning something for the end of the show like the orange hearts and stars)

for reference:

i went through op's tweets and at some point i thought they managed to get Rosie and Dan's team on board??

"Dan doesn't like projects" my ass! when i said his promoters didn't know the fuck they were doing i really meant it.

if we're starting a war with Dan's promoters, i'm 100% with y'all, just let me know.

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dan literally loves projects and even highlights them in his ig stories. like how did the dutch promoter think we would fall for that lie? like their story kept changing as to why they wouldn't allow the project and then the truth finally came out that they thought it would make too much of a mess with papers left all over? so they compromised with just the front row? like just tell the truth don't put the blame on the performer. the fact that this guy kept making a point that he was the *manager* seems like it was mostly a power trip.

allegedly, he was probably the actual manager working at/for the promoter's company which is Greenhouse Talent Netherlands? (they are also responsible for the Antwerp show) but it doesn't matter because if Dan's actual team (aka his personal assistant and the merch manager) tells you that it's okay it means Dan is okay with it. too much of a mess? it's just paper! i assume, A4, it's one of the easiest things to clean up even if someone would leave it on or under the seat. how could this Dutch manager think that a "too organized" project didn't have a plan to wrap itself up? a fine? okay, but only if it wouldn't be cleaned up. like, why not give it a go? i honestly don't understand how can a promoter care about the venue more than the venue itself. the venue people didn't want to make a decision, they basically forwarded the email to the promoter, the promoter forwarded it to Dan's team but when they didn't get a reply (which is strange because emails apart you usually have phones of the people you're closely working with) they said it was up to Juul? like, there was no actual forbiddance.

another thing that is even worse is lying on Dan's behalf. imagine the situation when we didn't know better. yeah, sure, a person whose whole career depends on audience interaction and participation hates when that audience is trying to thank him. those lies were so not thought through. like, if the promoter knew how easily we can communicate with Dan and his team he wouldn't say shit like that. but he doesn't know, because he doesn't know Dan, his audience and the whole point of the tour. promoters do not fucking CARE. and they think that they are supposed to have more power than Dan's team. which is very interesting but doesn't make sense to me. promoters are getting hired basically, and yes, Dan depends on them but they also depend on Dan. no performers = no job. so if a performer's team asks you to shut down your stupid rules, do it. you can ask for a physical confirmation to cover your ass if something goes wrong but DO IT. it's in everyone's favor. Juul and her friends spent hours and their own money to organize it then to just get things confiscated last minute. like, bro, shouldn't that much effort ring a bell? i'm sure they did a better job than that promoter's manager would ever do. and they are not even getting paid for it. Vii was fighting for this project like phandom's life depended on it. just to make Dan happy! and the promoter was like, "yeah no, i don't think so." bitch, it's just paper at the very end of the show! Dan loves when we're being creative and when we put effort into things. you can't say "Dan doesn't like projects" when we have proof that he does. you just can't lie on your client's behalf and get away with it.

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@ people, who went to the 2nd Amsterdam show, were there people on the balcony? judging by the story it's empty?

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We’re All Doomed World Tour: European leg

25.02.2023, Amsterdam (evening)

Rai Theater

Capacity: 1 750 (SOLD OUT)

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i wasn't at the amsterdam evening performance (saw the matinee), what happened? some project of fans that was shut down? soz if this is very easy to find out but I feel like im missing something here...

yeah, here

phannies still won, though

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I mean, I wouldn’t be surprised if the promoters didn’t even forward the email to Dan’s team 😒

well, yeah. but then they still didn't give a no. so it doesn't matter. it just shows how uninterested everyone is in Dan's tour, except his close team and us. and those uninterested people are getting paid for it.