#warren young

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I’m sorry, but all I can think of when I hear the name Warren Young is the mutant offspring of Warren Kepler and Rachel Young from Wolf 359. 

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War-ren: What is it good for?

By now, we’ve all seen it. The complete and utter character decimation of the single greatest character Warren Young has ever written. (Yes, I know about the play. No, I don’t think it was better than Bloodlines. I just think it was more pretentious.) 

I know I haven’t talked a lot about my visit to set (I’m also literally not allowed to talk about much, because of papers and NDAs and other stuff I had to sign), but now I can finally say: the scene in the graveyard that changes everything Bloodlines has ever been about? I was there when they filmed it. And honestly? I think I’ve been in denial ever since. 

I can’t say I haven’t been watching, even knowing that this is where we’d end up. I think I wanted to watch Warren earn the choice, or for it to be some epic head fake, you know? Like, you know how you just watched your favorite character inexplicably murder a hero in front of your eyes? Don’t worry about that. Actually, he was possessed! He wasn’t in his right mind! He’ll have to deal with the consequences of his actions, even though he didn’t make them of his own volition!

And, I tried to rationalize with myself. When I went to set and watched them film this scene, there were still eight episodes we hadn’t seen yet. There were eight episodes for Warren and the other writers to earn this absolutely mental choice they made with Luther. Every week I’ve been watching, waiting for a hint of where we were headed, hunting for the puzzle pieces that would make the final picture slot into place. 

The truth? There aren’t any. 

Warren just decided to ruin Luther for fun. For a laugh. For a throwaway moment when he couldn’t think of anything better to do. Because he was bored. 

I can’t say I know Warren just from spending a couple of days on his set. But I can say, with complete certainty, that he doesn’t know Luther after living with him for three years. He doesn’t understand why people love a “villain” (heavy on the air quotes there, paired with a side of eye roll). 

Bloodlines is a show that absolutely has pain and suffering in it. But it’s also about how you move through it. How you can be triumphant. And what I can say about Warren? 

He may not know what he’s doing with Luther. But he does know that he hates what we’re doing with him. So he found a way to put a stop to it. He wanted you to know, with every shot from that episode, that Luther is a villain, yes. But one thing more than that? He’s irredeemable. 

He doesn’t care what you think of Luther. He doesn’t care if you find peace in Luther. He doesn’t care if you want to see someone get a redemption arc (that, arguably, he’s been earning the whole time). 

All Warren cares about is if you’re watching the show, his show, the way he wants you to. 

Watching you all reward him with #YoungBlood is exhausting. Seeing people say that they can’t wait to watch the team bring Luther back from this is... heartbreaking. But the worst part, overall, is knowing that I have to keep watching Bloodlines move us through... whatever mess we’re about to embark on. 

[vickyvioletdraws]

Watt

"Never suppress a generous thought!"

-Mental Metas blog

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oops, we stumbled onto canva and made book cover versions of all of the fan fic mentioned in the first episode of That Vampire Show.

(if you don't know, That Vampire Show is our interactive fiction podcast about fandom and its relationship with mainstream media. Kat Wright, high school senior and fan fic writer for her favorite TV show, Bloodlines, wins a writing contest hosted by the network that makes the show. Her winning fic is called "A Life Stolen," and it's about reaching for things the two characters she ships think they might never have -- immortality and humanity, redemption, peace.)

The first cover is Kat's winning fic -- the other three are the ones Warren reads snippets of before getting to A Life Stolen in the first episode.

If you want to hear the words that inspired the covers, you can listen to That Vampire Show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts! (make sure to start with episode 1!)

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this is our legacy

(a real conversation between a tv show creator and the star of his show in our fiction podcast about fandom, that vampire show)

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Yes, Warren Young’s favorite movie IS Goncharov and yes he has a speech to rival the one about Hitchcock about it

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In the first episode of You Are What You Love Marissa Tandon and Lauren Grace Thompson explain that the reason young women love Dean Winchester is because they identify not with the successful, emotionally intelligent women they see in media, but with the emotionally challenged fuckups represented in media, who are generally men.

To complete the fandom cycle: 

I, who falls into almost the exact same demographic as Kat from That Vampire Show (created by Marissa as an exploration of fandom), find Warren to be a more interesting character. 

Why? Because Kat’s angst hits too close to home. I can’t enjoy angst about college applications and parental expectations, because I’m neck deep in that hellhole IRL. But Warren? A guy who at his best sucks, who’s ruined his best relationships for his career, and who is probably about to commit copyright offences on AO3. That has nothing to do with me. That’s angst that feels good to consume.

I’m feeling brave, so @tandonshows, bracing for impact, and I hope this goes down better than Kat’s attempt at communicating with the creator of her favourite media.

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I would kill for art of Cam and Warren at Thanksgiving