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One of you pretty recently posted this specific moment where Jared can barely force himself to respond with his generic season four bearding answer.
You know, the answer where his favorite part of Supernatural = meeting Genevieve during season four.
Because…future wife. Heterosexual man. Nothing to see here, people. MOVE ALONG.
So…yeah.
Big struggle getting the words to leave his tongue.
Then, we have Jensen sassily chiming in with, “No…favorite. Not regrettable.”
And finally, Jared echoes Jensen’s sentiment of “most regrettable” but with an added little quip of “most expensive.”
Yup.
Just…
Yup.
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Anyway…*ahem*
-here’s this necessary pair-up:
Jared (on his favorite season): *starts priming himself to recite his generic season four bearding answer*
Except Jensen is not in the correct headspace to handle it.
Jensen (cutting in): “-Other than the one you met your wife in.”
He does NOT want to hear it.
He’s like…can’t we just…not?
Hooooooo boy…
J2 tinhat ramblings with Genevieve and Danneel content (you have been properly warned)-
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I was just re-reading some articles from ye olden days centering around the fledgling fauxmances of Jensen & Danneel + Jared & Gen (mainly Jensen & Danneel this time around), and I highly recommend it for the sheer number of times you’ll come across phrases like “Jensen and Danneel were very secretive about their publicly unknown romantic relationship,” and “while it’s unclear exactly how their long platonic relationship turned into romance...” etc. etc.
Meanwhile one of the first links to pop up when I was searching for Jared and Gen dating articles was Speak the Truth LOL (which is a very well-traveled tinhat site just in case anyone wasn’t aware).
And I’m sure we all remember Buddy TV calling Jared + Gen/Sam + Ruby “one of the most confusing TV hookups of all time,” stating that “rarely has an actual couple had less on-screen chemistry.”
And there was Ted Casablanca being all like pssshhhhh, NO!! “Jared and Jensen would sooner marry each other than who they’re currently rumored to be getting hitched to.”
And I can’t not include a few of these headlines (about the highly suspicious twin engagements/weddings):
“Fellow star Jensen Ackles announced he was also engaged. Something in the air?”
And-
“2010 is becoming the year of CW weddings! Jensen Ackles has followed in the footsteps of Supernatural costar Jared Padalecki, who was married on February 27th.”
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Jared (on his and Jensen’s marriages fauxmances and how wonderful it’s been): “Has it??”
Um...I mean...uhh...
“-it’s been wonderful...”
Travis Wade: “I’ve never seen two guys love each other more. I’m surprised they have wives at home!”
Uhhhhhhh, well...we do. We totally do. Totally legit.
Heavy tinhat content ahead! Please keep scrolling if that’s not for you!
J2: parenthood, the children, and all that jazz!
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Okay, so I LOVE talking about the kids and doing J2-Daddies posts, 🥰 but I don’t think I’ve really shared many of my in-depth thoughts on what I personally believe is involved in the care of those children/the dynamic(s)/what is known when and by whom/various routines/etc., and it’s a very very important thing to talk about!
I’ll start with some of the basics, one of those basics being the fact that Jared and Jensen both very much wanted to have children, and I have no doubt that future children and parenthood plans were huge parts of their initial contracts with Gen and Dan.
I think that some of those contract specifics may have been overstepped since then...like the number of children at least in Jensen’s case, something he’s hinted at a few times by sharing the fact that he originally only ever planned on/wanted a single child, two at the most. He even used the word “contract” at one point (Pitt-17) while discussing the topic publicly with Jared (they both did actually). Jensen mentioned very briefly that the contract had been too loose and hadn’t held enough water, and his comment was in response to Jared having said that he (Jensen) needed to be more specific in these kinds of verbal contracts with Danneel, like for example “two total, not two more.”
*want a link to my post about the “contract” slips? Message me!*
Regardless of that, however, both Jared and Jensen clearly love being parents, and they are wonderful parents!
I’m SO glad that their dream of one day being daddies-
(on goals/hopes, things not yet accomplished, the below GIF)
-has now been so thoroughly actualized!
The next logical thing to talk about I suppose would be my thoughts on whose children are whose and how all of that works.
I do think that the Js technically live in their own houses, separately and with their respective children and ‘wives’ (fauxmance partners/co-parents), but we know that they’re together as much as they possibly can be, which is a lot even as far as the public is aware and much more than that in reality for sure, and I think that, depending on what’s going on/circumstances/etc., they spend stretches of time varying in length and frequency together in one house.
Take, for example, this comment by Jensen when asked if he and Danneel share household chores (nola-17)-
“It is split up. When we’re not there, she handles it. When we come home, she’s like ‘here’s the keys to everything.’”
The ‘we’ there was in reference to himself and Jared, and the implication seemed to be that he and Jared are together in one house at least some of the time and moreover that they’re given some time and space for just the two of them (and the kids) when they’re home.
I believe that Jensen and Jared each fathered their own three children, yes, but it’s also VERY evident that they love and care for all the kids as their own and that they very much take on the role of a parent not just with their three but with all six.
Let’s look at some dimension-lending examples that support this theory, although it’s really not needed since the Js have pretty much verbally confirmed the one-family-love to be true.
Just for fun, though-
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Tom: “Hi, Dad!”
Jared & Jensen simultaneously: “Hi Tom!” (Vancon-14)
Jared: “We didn’t get to see our family last week. But that being said, our kids get to see their parents doing something that they love.” (Houscon-17)
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Jensen: “The hits just keep coming with six kids!”
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^ almost correct! But actually he was just being a dad with his kids, not babysitting 😊.
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Jensen: [Jared] wasn’t there, so I was watching the kids.”
^ See what I mean? A separate occasion, by the way.
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Jared: “[Shep] and Jensen had a special bond from day one.” (PHXcon-16)
*Jensen pats his heart during a conversation about Shep*
Jared: “They’re kindred spirits.”
Jared (about JJ, m&g): “I love how her face lights up when I pick her up from school. She’s wrapped around my finger.”
Jared (about Arrow’s beautiful long eyelashes): “She’s like a Disney princess!”
Jared (about JJ): “She plays [Jensen] like a fiddle!”
Jared: “Tom said a word in music class that started with an ‘f’ and ended with an ‘uck.’”
Jensen: “Wonder where he heard that? *pauses for a second* Me. ”
Jensen (to Jared): “Don’t worry about getting too old. We are raising the next generation of hunters.”
Jared: “The boys have started to ask where babies come from. I try to distract them. I’m like ‘look a raccoon!’”
Jensen: “No you don’t! You send them to me!” (NJcon-18)
Jensen: “I’ve already had the talk with Shep.”
Jensen: “I get a text message from [Jared]. And he’s like ‘hey, I need you to send Tom a video.’ So I sit down and make a little video to Tom and send it to him.”
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As far as what Jared’s kids call Jensen and vice versa, ‘uncle’ seems to be what was chosen right from the start, which makes sense.
Some ‘Uncle Jared & Uncle Jensen’ examples:
Jared (about his boys): “They call Jensen ‘Uncle Jensen.’”
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Jensen: “Instead of saying ‘stop,’ she says ‘go away.’ (...) She got it from Uncle Jared.”
Jared: “Aww, I miss JJ.” (Asylum-16)
Jensen: “Uncle Jensen is trying to get some work done out here.” (Chicon-12)
Tom: “Uncle Jensen.”
Jensen: “I hear you, big guy! I hear you!”
Jared (mimicking Tom when he was missing Jensen): “Uncle Jensen-Uncle Jensen-Uncle Jensen-Uncle Jensen!” (Jib-14)
Tom: “I love you Unca’ Jensen!”
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We can only vaguely speculate about what the kids will know and when concerning their parents’ arrangement, if that even is part of the future plan which it very well might not be.
But my guess is that when they reach a certain age, each child will be told at a minimum that Jared and Jensen share a beyond-platonic intimacy (even if it’s kept very vague), because the alternative for the Js is never being able to exist openly with each other even privately with just their family.
And surely as time passes, the kids will pick up on more and more about the full truth, plus they’ll likely be given additional information as they get older (that’s IF they’re not told outright at some point).
And of course we don’t know if there’s any intention of coming out publicly some day or if there’s the hope of coming out publicly some day should circumstances allow for it, but that’s an entirely different matter and would probably involve the decision to have Gen and Dan deny any prior knowledge of the Js relationship (in fact the non-platonic aspect of the Js relationship would likely be presented as something that had unfolded between Jared and Jensen not long before telling the public about it).
Just a side note that popped into my head-
In a collection of written interviews I found from the late 90’s that were conducted with anonymous closeted celebrities, a fairly common answer to one of the questions (about coming out) was that if it were to happen, it would happen after retirement from the industry.
It was heartbreaking to read, however, that the majority of the interviewees felt they would never have the option, realistically speaking, of coming out, at least not while still being able to protect their livelihoods.
I’m getting off topic here.
Although I do want to get into the above a lot more thoroughly in another post.
But for now...back to the kids!
Let’s touch on some more parenting details.
To expand a bit on what I said about Jared and Jensen being the fathers of each of their three respective kids but at the same time caring for all six with a parent’s love and dedication (and AS parent figures in the eyes of all six), I think the same basic principle applies to Gen and Dan.
I don’t think they are as involved in the daily lives of each other’s children as much as Jared and Jensen are (meaning Gen with Jen+Dan’s kids and Dan with Jar+Gen’s kids), but certainly they are to at least a somewhat-regular degree due to Jared and Jensen and therefore the inherent interconnectedness of both families.
And regardless of how I feel about either Gen or Dan personally, regardless of how you feel, they are two of the four parents of six beautiful children, and whatever happens between the Js, whatever happens between Jen and Dan or Jared and Gen, just whatever happens...these four human beings will always be connected through their children at the very least, and that is why there is nothing but good will toward all of them in my heart.
I say that with complete and genuine honesty. I really do.
Alright...
I am too sleepy to carry on. The rest will have to wait for a part two.
But I will conclude things by adding these precious, wonderful photos for you to ‘cute’ over! 😊💕
Heavy J2-Tinhat content ahead with a focus on Jared & Genevieve’s wedding but with mentions of both weddings.
Turn back NOW please if you know that reading this will upset you!
Thanks!
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First, a quick overview of the dates and locations of both weddings:
Jared & Genevieve: The Valley Country Club (Sun Valley, Idaho), 2/27/10
Jensen & Danneel: Crescent Court Hotel (Dallas, Texas), 5/15/10
So, even just based on that tiny bit of info alone, it’s already weird that neither J was married in a church despite religion playing a role in both of their respective families (especially in the Ackles family).
Also, neither marriage was blessed by a priest.
A bit strange...right? *ponders*
Another interesting fact: Jensen was alone at Jared’s wedding (without Danneel), and Jared was likewise alone at Jensen’s wedding (without Gen).
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But, anyway, moving on to the main point of this particular post: a few extra tidbits about Jared & Genevieve’s wedding that I haven’t talked about yet.
I have things to add about Jen & Dan’s wedding as well, but I’ll save that for another time.
1. There were two wedding cakes! Which definitely caught my attention, because that’s...pretty odd without the reason being some dietary restriction someone in the wedding party has or something like that. But no....even then it would still be a very unusual thing to do.
Here’s the cake that was cut by him and Gen:
The second was baked in the shape of Texas and was also colored accordingly (I’ll re-find and add a pic).
Which two people constantly bond over a deep, shared love of Texas, though? A love of Texas that also happened to play a huge role in kickstarting their relationship with each other wayyy back in the beginning?
I mean, I don’t know. Just sayin.
2. Jared and Genevieve messed up their wedding kiss and had to try it again to ‘get it right.’
Hmm...
(since this is the second try, it’s VERY hard to imagine what the first try was like...)
3. The flowers chosen for the ceremony were white lilies, a particular kind that are very commonly associated with funerals, death, and mourning. So commonly, in fact, that when I did some verifying research, it was the first-used description of the flower’s symbolism on all but one or two of the sites I browsed (the only description on some of those sites), and when I tweaked my search to “funeral flowers,” it was the first flower listed on every single page I visited as recommended for funerals, mourning, and sending in sympathy to grieving loved ones.
A collage of various text-clips from some of those sites, just to give you a general idea:
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So, make what you will of that. Or don’t!
4. The set-up/decor of the ceremony, right down to the specific lights, was borrowed from a show called Wildfire (from the wedding scene) that Genevieve acted in.
Now, I don’t know what I’m trying to imply that might mean...but I do know it feels like a weird, impersonal thing to do...
Doesn’t it? 🧐
5. Jared and Gen did not initially go on a Honeymoon. Jared was spotted flying right back to Vancouver the Monday after the wedding. The two did take their supposed ‘honeymoon’ later on.
My thoughts? Jared, as we know, struggles with anxiety and depression. Getting through the faux-wedding with a smile (wellll...he tried his best to smile anyway...*see below image*) was already hard enough in more ways than we could probably ever imagine. A faux-honeymoon immediately afterward would have just been way too emotionally and mentally difficult.
I’ll leave you with these photos of Jensen during Jared’s rehearsal dinner:
And this wedding hug between the two of them that continues to break my heart into a thousand pieces every time I see it:
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J2 Magnetism continued:
I just posted an ask about the TCAs, and I completely forgot to include something that I meant to.
We were looking at the way the Js gravitate toward each other:
And I forgot to post the pair-up of the above TCA photo with this Paley photo that I just love:
That’s an even more extreme example of their beautiful J2 magnetism!
And here’s another example! All I could find (without having to look through my folders for too long) was the version I’d edited for a future body language post, so I’ll just quickly explain the circles so it makes sense.
Circle 1 is just to illustrate the lack of space between the Js and the mutual lean in toward each other.
Circle 2 is to show that Jared’s also leaning even more so with his neck to bring his head closer to Jensen’s (which is a very intimate thing that both Js unconsciously and consciously do often with each other).
Circle 3 is indicating the angle of Jensen’s shoulder, which shows that he is either not extending that arm around Danneel or is only barely extending it. To clarify, I don’t mean his hand placement, I mean what he’s doing with his arm specifically (which is pulling back and away from the touch).
Also, since now I had to go and start myself on this topic lol, please don’t think I’m insulting anyone when I make observations like these. My own personal thoughts aside, it’s purely observation. And body language is body language. A lot of the time we’re literally not even aware of the less-obvious specifics of what we’re doing.
It’s also really difficult, impossible actually, to fake all of the body language, all the time, that one would naturally have with someone they’re intimate with when in truth that intimacy isn’t there (just like it’s impossible to do the reverse of that all the time with someone you are intimate with).
So...yep! That’s really all I’m saying. I promise.
Edit: and here’s one more, because CLEARLY it belongs in this post: