I feel like an asshole because dumb positivity posts make me angry.
But… After all this time…
after the rampant homophobia
after Jmo flat out quit acting in her scenes with Lana
after iconic Swan Queen moments were blatantly given to captain swan.
after maguire was brought back
after five years in which the only cast member who’s grown in her understanding of LGBTQ people also happens to the captain of our ship
After years of Adam coddling racist, sexist homophobia
After all that, you still believe swan queen is endgame? The only endgame on this show is heterosexual mediocrity.
I get this. I respect it. I also respect that for some hope is dangerous.
But, well, I also think it’s dangerous to force people with hope into the closet to avoid infecting others.
I think there’s a difference between fans having hope and reasons for said hope versus what the awful 100 did. Fans don’t have explicit knowledge. They have wants and desires and a particular lens.
Are some smart people sharing insight that reinforces my hope? Yes they are. And I enjoy living in that space versus the deep well of cynicism that’s easy to fall into. And maybe justified.
Understand that my favorite ship is Stef and Lena Adams Foster from The Fosters. I almost never get sucked into a show that isn’t explicit. And with Once, I am on the edges of the fandom, here as much for the fanfic as the show. I have skipped many episodes and even full seasons.
Personally, while engaging with dumb positivity, I’d encourage every swan queen fan to cleanse their palettes by binge watching The Fosters, to see these two fabulous lesbian moms raising their bio/adopted/foster kids.
But honestly, I have watched a lot of tv in my life. And I don’t think CS is endgame. Not saying swan queen is, but I don’t believe CS is endgame. It’s too obviously toxic. They don’t make each other better. It would be simple to change this just slightly if they were heading the endgame route. But the show continues to double down on the lies and selfish choices and kisses without any signs of true love. Idk, I think Swan Queen is possible. Is it worth it due to all of the bts shit? That’s a great question. I have said no more than yes, but this season has sucked me back. Probably because there’s no Callie on Grey’s.
But that’s just me. I have more fun when I choose hope. So that’s what I tend towards.
All good points.
That said, I 100% believe that they will show CS as being true love. There is a strain of contempt for women in this show that gets stronger every season.
Someone involved in producing ouat hates women who’ve found independence outside of a relationship with a man.
Look at what they’ve done to Emma. No one who loves women would do that.
That’s what I keep saying: the underlying message of this show is that a woman cannot be whole/happy/competent/whatever without a man. They spent so much time building Emma up as having the strongest magic in existence, and yet in scenes where she should use her magic, they have her cowering beside Hook as if he could do anything. What message does that send??
Where we see toxic, the writers see a true love fairytale romance, and that’s an issue.
Even death & soul obliteration couldn’t free Regina from the useless man her character was destroyed for. There is no hope that CS will end or that SQ is endgame.
Also, sidenote… in a way, I’d be terrified for what would happen if SQ was endgame. You’ve got CSers threatening physical violence on Swen at cons and they’ve proven themselves to be misogynistic racists who already ferociously hate Lana. I’m scared for what the fallout would be if their precious ship was taken away. It wouldn’t be pretty.
I am reblogging this because i feel this is an important topic of our fandom. It brings thoughtful, honest points of toxicity of ANY fandom and a lens on ours. I personally, have never had an issue with the Captian Swan fandom, nor OutLaw Queen fandom. I do see however, on other Swen bloggers, hostility from other shippers. I refuse to believe all CRers/OQ are as unsupportive of the larger fanbase. It just saddens me greatly and quite honestly pisses me the fuck off with “fans” spouting the venom of hate, and hostile acts these poor souls chuck at other fans. In my eyes you are no longer a fan. You are just an asshole. Fandom is and should be, something to bring people from all walks of life together. To bond over, and to celabrate. I adore Swen for this very reason, and in extension, the greater fanbase. As to EndGame Hope… I am of the opinion that SQ pobably won’t be ENDGAME for various, buissness end of OUAT. I still ship it however, because to me, FOR ME rather, it is a story, a love I find personally compelling. A story in which gives more depth to a rather shallow lake. I come from old school fandoms. SailorMoon, Star Wars, Horror films. Before the explosion of fandom culture, all we had was hope. We knew none of our ships, or plots, would be canon, but we still put out our narratives. Sailor moon in fact, is the backbone of modern day fanfiction culture (you are welcome for that btw 😉) So, for me, the desperate need for this particular ship to be canon, can be a daunting one. Who cares if it is, our ship sails with, or with out the wind. We make it sail. Us. Ask those SQ questions on social media, and cons if you want to, or don’t. Its our, and your ship after all. Then again, this is the first generation of LGBTQ people to have a real shot at having great repesentation and that is fucking important as hell. Not just for us LGBTQ ppl, but for humanity in general. I fucking believe that from the bottom of my black pessimistic heart. So, to all the haters no matter who the fuck you are: no one cares go back to whatever rock you crawled under. Your trolling and hateful speech is not welcomed into this fandom. To Swen:fuck canon. Its our ship. To my fellow LGBTQ ppls: we got a long ass road ahead. Lets make it together. Lets make it count.
To Swen:fuck canon. It’s our ship.



















