namorio: death siblings part I
aka lady death & godking of the underworld
— born out of my immense love for namor, then rio, until i started seeing their connections 💚 also because i have been connecting them both but separately to pearl pangan
aka let the tinfoil hat wearing begin!
I. Death and GodKing of the Underworld
— Rio: cosmic entity already born at the dawn of time, roughly 13.8 billion years ago
— Namor: born in 1571 as the firstborn son and mutant of Talokan praised and revered as K'uk'ulkan, the Feathered Serpent God "of this realm and the realm below"
↪️ from BPWF: obviously because he's been around since 1500s, but I like that this seemingly sounds like "at the dawn of time" type of existence considering their world is forever altered by Spanish colonization
↪️ I like that him being crowned as king can also be due to Fen being a princess in the comics. Also with what Coogler said:
He was made king before he was even born; it was something he didn't have a choice in, it was destiny
Their connection: Underworld = Death
in Namor's wiki, this is what's stated about Talokan
[...] Aztec stories his father had once told her, including of the Aztec underworld paradise Tlālōcān, which inspired him in the naming of their underwater paradise, with the translation into their tongue of Yucatec Maya, "Talokan."
Talokan is based on Tlālōcān, one of the underworld realms in the Aztec codices ruled by the Rain God Tlāloc. It is a paradise for the souls of those who died of a water or a storm-related death. In the comics, Tláloc is the Storm God of the Tēteoh.
which ties in with what the old lady said regarding seeking him:
Others who have searched for him with ill in their hearts have never returned. Lost to the depths forever.
— Namor: born from a Yucatec Mayan mother and Aztec father, speaks Mayan with Talokan clearly named after the Aztec underworld paradise translated from Nahuatl
— Rio: per a Variety interview with Jac Schaeffer:
Giovanna came in with the Dia de los Muertos [look] and having her be Latinx
I know Mesoamerica =/= Latin America (at least not all) but I wanted to concentrate on Rio having a Dia de los Muertes look.
Dia de los Muertes - Day of the Dead in Mexico deeply rooted in Indigenious (Aztec) Mesoamerican tradition
La/Santa Muerte - The/Holy Death also rooted in Mesoamerican belief particularly the Aztec goddes of death Mictecacihuatl
The Aztec god of death Mictlantecuhtli was mentioned for the first time, although briefly, in Wonder Man ep 1:
I don't mind that it's mixed with Catholic belief/practice since both Namor and Rio's names are in Spanish too, which is the race that brought the mentioned Abrahamic religion in their continent/s
Since Mictlantecuhtli rules over the Mictlan, the final resting place, I like the imagery of Namor causing deaths by water and sea until Rio takes them to rest
[I'm honestly still confused if the two mentioned gods are just one even if the latter link separated them to Lady and Lord, which makes sense since Rio is also called Lady Death, but I'm sticking to the central theme of (Aztec) God of Death]
Their connection: Mesoamerican Gods of Death/Underworld
In the former link, one of the skeleton figurines don a skirt with an:
image of a cactus with an eagle perched atop it eating a serpent
which I just find cute since Namor is revered as the feathered serpent god
— Namor: godking of an underwater civilization
— Rio: her name Rio Vidal translates to River of Life
Their connection: river of life = underwater civilization -> water = re/birth
Fen took the vibranium-laced potion to save her baby Cha'ah Toh and because of the persuasive words of their shaman, when they awoken from their long slumber, they needed the oxygen from the water to breathe
Their lives, their existence there ended — Namor
↪️ in a way, the Mayans were given a second chance at life but at sea
Now, for the actual births
We see Fen giving birth to her baby Cha'ah Toh at sea, fulfilling the shaman's words of her son being the firstborn of Talokan
We see Agatha giving birth to Nicky near a body of water which is what Rio's name translates to, in the same scene, we also see Rio approaching her with a flower in hand intending to do her duty as Death
Out of her love for Agatha and their son, she bestowed for the first and last time a special treatment no one ever had in history: to give Nicky time
I was also realizing just now, how Namor being a mutant combined with their vibranium in his body gives him a life long enough that Death lets him take his time, Nicky, the son of Death, lived in borrowed time and there was nothing she could do to change it, and she said it herself: it must be
Her dedication to her duty to take what has to be taken was once outweighed by love, but it cannot last. Just like how Namor's dedication to his people led him to do what he never wanted in the first place
As mentioned in part III how Namor's people were given a second life at sea, his birth marked and created the underwater civilization/kingdom where his people thrive and live long lives away from war, disease, and a hateful language.
His mother's people had to "die" in order to live again.
Which ties in with the following quotes:
I know she was thinking of Nicky here because his other parent is basically Rio aka Death, but the same rang true for Namor's people being "reborn" and born as Talokanils; which I connected to
I think it's fitting to add him here since Namor is technically part of the BP/WFverse along with Wakanda's ancestral plane where the souls of the deceased rest + it truly was not the end for the Fen's people
Now for Rio, it is self-explanatory with the lines she said in the series:
I am the natural order of all things
In the end, all roads lead to me
Everything leads back to her because she is the natural cycle of life and death, and though everything must come to an end aka her, the decay of all living things, a new life starts from it, from her which is what and who Nicky symbolizes -> Agatha's mentioned quote
Plants and flowers symbolizing life
I also realized the dandelion on the last trial and the flowers on her deathbed caused by Rio, can be similar to Chaac leading the shaman to a plant sprouting from a blue rock; both symbolizing life just in a different scale of personal love and salvation of a people
— Rio: in Ep8, she discussed at length with Agatha how Billy
[...] is an abomination, he is disrupting the sacred balance;
What he wants from the road is a violaton;
His brother isn't out there, not yet anyway; the son of the Scarlet Witch stole a second life, I can't let him do the same for his twin, I have to take him
When Agatha and Billy got out of the last trial and when Billy gave some of his powers to revive Agatha's own, this is what Rio said:
I'll let you decide, one of you stays with me, the other walks free
↪️ which is still consistent with her earlier dialogue of Billy stealing a second life hence taking him/giving himself up will mean he won't be able to do it again for his twin this time, but since he already did with the help of Agatha, Rio needs/has to restore what Billy disrupted aka the sacred balance she's responsible for by taking a life to fill in what he stole
— Namor: he made it clear that endagering Talokan and its people begets retaliation to Wakanda
[...] or if I discover a single Wakandan ship in the ocean, I will kill the princess. I will come to Wakanda and I will kill you
↪️ which he did fulfill when he returns to find the dead guard and a dying Abha after he spoke with Ramonda who threatened to expose Talokan and whose orders caused his people's deaths
To Namor, anyone who is a threat to his people's safety should be eliminated which is why he wants to burn the world with Shuri whose nation is also at risk due to the resources it has. He reiterated that if Wakanda didn't join them against the surface world
I will wash Wakanda from the face of the Earth
↪️ During this scenario, Wakanda is now a direct threat to Talokan. To him, it does not matter who or what a person's rank is, his people is above them all because he is responsible for them just like Rio is responsible for the cycle of all living things. (Unintentionally) Killing the queen and wreaking havoc to Wakanda is his way of avenging the deaths of his two people and the threat to exposing his nation
To kill Queen Ramonda was never his plan. It was a reaction because they killed a couple of girls of Namor's kingdom, and it was just a punishment. 'You kill people, I kill your people'.
Their connection: Rio -> Agatha for Billy and the restoration of the sacred balance; Namor -> attack to Wakanda for the guard, Abha, and Talokan's safety
I noticed a small parallel between the death scenes during the mentioned events, and how what Agatha and Billy said rang true even for Namor and Ramonda's situation:
He floats, he looks down — Agatha
He's gonna drown, it's a bad place - Billy
I equated Namor killing Ramonda by water/flood to Billy choosing a drowning boy for Tommy's soul to transfer to which Rio rectified later on, both figures restoring the balance of what they are responsible for
To expound a little, Namor took a life for the guard and Abha is like Billy who took a life/body for Tommy, both by the way of water with Namor's hydrobombs and Billy's choice for a drowning boy
Their connection: give and take of life
— Rio: self-explanatory as a cosmic entity
Agatha telling Billy on Ep8:
This is futile. You know it. We can't fight Death.
He ages slower -> he is not in a hurry to meet Death and Death is not in a hurry to come get him
Also, I saw a post regarding lobster's immortality and how Namor had lobsters on the golden plate of his garment/cape, which I directly linked to Rio of course (I know he's clearly not immune to death since Shuri almost killed him but the concept of him+immortality is fun to play with in my connection of him with Rio)
I wanted to add a little tidbit from the original BPWF script that he once saved a couple's life which is the narrating old lady and her husband, I just think it's cute in a way he also does save the people of his mother's land
I have four more sections to go but since the photos are limited, I will separate it in part II