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In a conversation with Inverse, Patrick McHale revealed how 'Over the Garden Wall' was inspired by 'Breaking Bad,' the spinoff series that Cartoon Network rejected, the surprising backstory to one fan-favorite character, and more.
“WHAT WAS GREG’S FROG’S BACKSTORY GOING TO BE?
It was a bit like Siddhartha, but with frogs. And it involved his relationship with his absentee father.”
Storyboards and character sketches. A lot of stuff changed by the time it got to the final episodes. That’s my stack of rough and cleaned up storyboard drawings. Maybe I need to start working on a cintiq… But then I wouldn’t have all these originals!
Hello Patrick McHale, I was wondering if you could take the time to answer my question. Did the team of Over the Garden Wall ever throw around the idea of leaving Wirt in the Unknown, and just Greg making it back? Did you guys have any other alternate ending ideas? I'd love to know, thank you for the time. (Also wondering if the black turtles held any significance... minions of the Beast perhaps? Any hints would be much loved.)
SPOILERS BELOW!
THOSE WHO HAVEN’T WATCHED THE FULL SERIES SHOULD STOP READING!
I think we talked about every possible ending imaginable. I recall being on the phone with either Amalia or Tom (maybe both) and just… like… listing out ending after ending after ending. And even after we figured out what seemed like the best solution… it kept changing as we changed little bits and pieces during the boarding process.
Early on we had Wirt and Greg getting lost on Halloween night in episode 1 (rather than a flashback in episode 9). And at that point… in episode 10, we actually had Wirt and Greg get home during Christmas time. So when they got home no one in town had seen Wirt and Greg for MONTHS and it’s never explained. It could have been cool, but seemed too overwhelming conceptually with all the other stuff going on in the final episode.
Another ending was… to leave Wirt in the Unknown and only Greg gets back. But… it just seemed cruel and uncomfortable to split them up in the end - plus it didn’t really show Wirt’s full arc of learning to accept his responsibility of being a brother.
Early on Wirt and Greg actually got lost in the Unknown by RIDING the little black train (rather than almost getting hit by it). That was actually the whole concept of the series - that Wirt and Greg get on a train on Halloween night, and realize it’s going to “Death” and so they jump off half-way and end up somewhere between life/death/dreams/reality. So in the last episode we reveal that the beast is actually not a bad guy… he’s just trying to get them on the train, because that’s where they belong. Wirt and Greg realize they can either accept their fate and get on the train… or they can wander the woods and become old and crazy like the woodsman. they decide to accept their fate, and they get on the train and head off into the darkness…. We think they died. But then reveal that the train was never going to “Death” at all…. the scary place the train was going to was actually “Life”! All along Wirt was subconsciously fighting the will to survive. because… confronting your problems in life, for him, was more frightening than death. I still like parts of this, but… when it comes to characters accepting their own death… it gets tricky to write it for a kids cartoon. it was also just hard to get the train concept to work without it feeling convenient and overly magical. plus a lot of people brought up similarities to Harry Potter and Spirited Away and Polar Express which turned me off the idea too.
I think i’m writing too much. I’ll stop here.
I saw a reference to "Hedgehog in the fog" on a "Over the garden wall" shot...Was it only a shot you liked from that or are you really into Yuri Norstein's films? (I love them).
Hedgehog in the Fog is one of the main influences on the style of Over the Garden Wall. I’m pretty sure that’s one of Pat’s favorite animated films and he talked about it a lot during the production. We added that shot in post-production as an homage to it.
Concept art for Adelaide from the book Art of Over the Garden Wall.
Originally, Adelaide had a flock of sheep from which she obtained wool for her yarn. She needed a servant to tend to the sheep since she could not go outside, and it would be revealed that the sheep had once been lost children as well, turned into sheep by Adelaide.
As Pat McHale said though, “I was never able to figure out what to do with all those children turned sheep. We couldn’t just leave them as sheep, but we also couldn’t suddenly introduce a whole gang of new ‘lost children’ characters.”
The Intro of Wirt’s tape for Sara. I absolutely adore how to was made in addition of the show. <3
Is that… a painting of the Beast in Quincy Endicott’s parlor?
Does this perhaps seem familiar when thinking about otgw? Cuz I sure think it does
appreciation callout for jason funderberker
he literally smiles when he notices wirt even though wirt is very obviously displeased and bitter toward him. the kid is just trying to be genuinely nice to his friend !! the animosity is one-sided !!
one of his moves on sara is to tell a lame halloween joke
he understands that his joke was, in fact, lame but he’s not afraid to get out there and try anyway
his entire performance of telling that horror story
removes his hand when sara tells him to with no protest. he doesn’t try again or anything. he understands and moves on
based off of a teenage patrick mchale
his costume is a mystery but he’s obviously a very dapper fellow
his new girlfriend is dressed like a bluebird and i feel like that suggests he’s a lot like wirt in that he too needs some help in growing as a person, just as actual bluebird-human beatrice does for wirt
the dvd commentary explicitly mentions wirt’s problem of idealizing people, as he does for jason funderberker. that and jason’s behavior throughout the show suggests that he’s not as bad as wirt thinks
he just wants to be friends
please be nice to jason funderberker
Also from the commentary: “Everyone’s finding themselves in high school. And everyone’s pretty lost. Except for Jason Funderberker.”
So the premise for Over the Garden Wall: Distillatoria made me think of this lost episode idea from Pat’s original pitch bible for Tome of the Unknown, and a theme that was hinted at but mostly unexplored in the series.
Don’t read if you don’t want spoilers for the graphic novel, just in case I’m right!!
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Hi, i have a question, the truth of the backstory of the beast one day it will be revealed?
It’s difficult to answer this question without first understanding what truth is. Unlike reality which has an objective truth, fiction is subjective both to the creator of the work, and the audience. Much like Schrodinger’s Cat, different truths in a single work of fiction can simultaneously exist. And, as time goes on, the truth intended by the author just becomes another truth that may or may not be acceptable to all that observe it. Consequently, the farther one moves away from the fountainhead of the original work the more distant and vague the truth becomes. It is obscured by the fog of time and by the opinions of each person that has seen it. So, it seems that we will never really know the truth and, at the same time, we also already do.
Hope that helps!
edelwood trees are hollow on the inside,,, which is rather creepy if you think about them being, first and foremost, actual human beings
And those Lorna headcanons that everyone’s been waiting for for twenty years:
- Uses a grimoire that’s surprisingly plain; however, a pentacle lock sets her book of spells apart from the others. Is the lone tome that requires a key in order to open. Filled with more recipes than one would believe is physically possible to fit into such a small space, but somehow there’s always enough room to cram in more.
- Has smudges of flour somewhere on her more often than not. Absolutely will blush if you point this out to her and probably respond with “oh, aye, it seems I do.”.
- While an accomplished cooker, baking is where Lorna truly excels. If you name it, she can likely make it. Breads, cookies, pies, cakes, tarts, custards, and so on.
- Great at banishing poltergeists, negative entities, and unsettling energies. Definitely the individual you should seek out if you’re having trouble with something that goes bump in the night. She may appear fragile, but she’ll kick its ghostly ass faster than you can say “who you gonna call?”. If you’re smart, you fear Lorna just a little.
- Sews poppets. Auntie Whispers taught her this skill, but warned her that she must be careful when (or if) she decided to distribute them as people sometimes didn’t have as pure of intentions as she did. She took this advice to heart, and only makes the dolls when she knows for certain that more good than bad will come of them.
- Perpetually cold to the touch. Believed to be a side effect from the banshee possession.
- Can become invisible.
- Owns a besom that she uses right before rituals. Said besom is quite powerful as it has protective sigils carved into it by Beatrice and is routinely splashed with full moon water lovingly provided by Sara and Wirt. Greg also made Jason (his frog) kiss it once so whatever phantom that wished to inflict harm at the time will be infected with warts which will “make him think twice before he messes with us again!”.
- Gained the ability to hold entire conversations with black turtles. She didn’t talk to them as much as soon as she figured out where they came from and who they serve.
Over The Garden Wall + Historical Time Periods
so i was reading about the purgatory theory
and it seems pretty legit, but it got me thinking. what about beatrice? what does her family turning into birds symbolise? so here’s a bit of what i came up with.
-their family is all very close. this can be shown literally by their living quarters both as birds and as people and figuratively by how they all asked wirt about beatrice immediately when they realised he might know her, etc.
-that means they wouldn’t want to leave one another behind, in life or in death
-(it can be assumed that they were all wiped out around the same time, presumably by a plague or invasion given their varied ages)
-just keep this in mind
they were turned to birds, right?
-birds symbolise impermanence; the flitting between life and death perhaps
-the beast kept them in a temporary state, neither here nor there (explained later)
-but beatrice’s family didn’t leave
-now
-when beatrice returned back to them, they all just so happened to become human again
-humans are creatures of finality, who settle and make a home
-now rather than being birds, uncertain and floating in an unsettled and vast unknown, they’re people. settled down. finally. in a home. presumably forever
-they return to mankind can be interpreted as a final death, and peace based off how happy they were.
BUT WHY WAS BEATRICE STUCK AS A BIRD?
-the beast is one’s own fear -idk if there are theories on this, but he 100% is
-beatrice was scared by the finality of death
-when that fear “died,” she reunited with her family and greeted them with open arms, proceeding happily to her next stage of life (or afterlife)
-the end
The seasons are what a symphony ought to be: four perfect movements in harmony with each other. (Arthur Rubinstein)
i can see now what was the inspiration for over the garden wall’s schooltown kids)
