What are your headcanons of him? Even if it's limited?
Except for my last post?
I imagine Ben and everyone around that age group was fine and all
But kids who are like older then them so... Chip, Melody, Artie, Shang Jr and my oc's Ahmed, Jana and more grew up seeing the effects of the unitation of the kingdoms and the magic ban
Like they lived through it
So excluding chip (because he doesn't have a choice) all try to avoid Auradon and Auradon city in particular
So attending Auradon Prep was stressful for Shang Jr
He as I said before likes to cook but not very good at it but he is a bit better at baking
He likes to bake the chocolate chip cookies his mom makes when he is not home. It makes him feel closer to her
Okay let's see. Also they might be already canon or from other users that I've seen and dont remember. If that's the case let me know and I'll tag them
Also I added a little Jordan and Aziz there...
Lonnie, Aziz and Jordan grew up together
Either Jordan or Lonnie had a one sided crush on the other at around the age of 12
Aziz was the ultimate wingman for any relationship the other two had
Shang Jr is also childhood friends with one of Aziz's older sister
Speaking of Shang, he had his first tattoo secretly at the age of 15.
It was a dolphin tattoo because he was obsessed with the sea growing up
Shang also likes to cook but is not very good at it
Mulan's family love Li Shang so much
Li Shang always made sure he was there for both her kids
Shang Jr looks like Mulan the most
Mushu is very protective of both Shang Jr and Lonnie
And he is the overdramatic proud unce
LONNIE AND SHANG JR GREW UP WITH YAO, CHIEN-PO AND LING'S CHILDREN
Jordan was the first one to attend Auradon City Middle School and that ls where she met Ben
Lonnie and Shang Jr had all their education till their respective high school years in China
Then Shang went to high school in Sherwood Forest for the first year but got transferred to Auradon Prep because Auradon had a better Scholarship in fencing.
He shared a drom with Andrew Bjorgman (Anna and kristof's son)
He also told everything about Auradon Prep to Lonnie so she wouldn't have much hard time there because he was always underestimated by some royal kids
Well, so was Lonnie. Maybe more than Shang jr because at least the older was a man and it wasn't 'wrong' for him to fight
Lonnie however was ignored by many people
Because she was a girl and she should be 'graceful' and 'quiet' and 'ladylike'
And she shouldnt fight.
After couple of month Ben being the king hearted guy befriended him and that went on
Lonnie also has couple tattoos
Which gave her bonus points befriending the vk's
Mal doesn't like to get into a physical fight in Auradon not because she is incapable but she likes the others to underestimate her
The only person she fenced in Auradon was lonnie (before d2)
It was in the middle of the night when they bumped into each other and had ice cream in the kitchens
They were chatting then fighting came up which made mal offer to fence with her
Lonnie obviously accepted
That's why when they were rescuing Ben in d2, mal was a bit relieved Lonnie was there
Back to the family, both Shang Jr and Lonnie got their sass from their great grandmother, grandma Fa
Sorry for the wait, but I wanted to finish Lonnie's warrior sword so I will probably be focused on that
Anyways onto my answer...
I was liken 14-15 ish when I watched the first two films and I really liked her and I still do too but now I kinda grew up and had a chance to look into her character more and realised she wasn't really well written.
What is most upsetting for me is she could be a key point at any time in the movies but also in the books. But no piece of media in this franchise took that opportunity. Like she is there, yeah and she has some lines and stuff but nothing more. Shes in the back like literally any ak. Except for Ben and audrey. And we see audrey as a big character only in the last film.
I've seen people say that the movies especially are really mal centric and I agree, majority of the characters are just there.
Now I dont remember much about Lonnie in the books. It's been a while and I'm planning to reread them but I doubt she had any significant scenes for herself.
In Lonnie's warrior sword, which I literally just finished so it might be a bit too detailed,
First we had a memory with mulan, and I was so happy but that was the end of it. Now I think living up to the name of Mulan AND SHANG is a great plot point for her and her character but they couldn't do it well. Lost opportunity... but we have Mulan's name being mentioned at couple more places which all serve the 'living up to the name' and if the book was a bit longer they could explore it a bit better.
There is the matter of Li Shang. The matter is he is not there. Everyone ignored the man like they ignored Lonnie in the third movie. I would love to see some father-daughter bonding and we WERE ROBBED. so if anyone has any fic recommendations about Lonnie and Shang I would love that. Anyways, Shang in Lonnie's Warrior Sword was mentioned one (1) time.
"...sword fighting with her mother in the gardens, running laps around the palace with her father..."
That's it. And although I love the image of little Lonnie trying to keep up with her father while Shang purposely slows down for her is incredibly adorable, how would anyone think this would be enough to feed the fandom
Shang Jr is a whole other thing. Again I would love to see a relationship between Lonnie and Shang jr. And I also would like to see how filling up the name of Mulan AND SHANG would affect him. Because it would affect him as much as Lonnie.
Then there is the name situation. Firstly, I am not familiar with Chinese culture and I dont have anyone I can ask beside the internet so let me know if I need to include/exclude and/or change anything.
From what I've understood from the fandom, naming your child after yourself is very disrespectful so that is an issue. Honestly even if they were not gonna look into his name, all they needed to do was to search for some Chinese names and meanings. Like I could do that (and I am planning to cause there is no way I'm using Lil' Shang as a name in my version of descendants. Same goes with Lonnie. I did started to research about that but like Lonnie? Why? Naming with the same initials as your parent is a thing in the universe but by that logic they were supposed to do a name with m for mulan or s for shang, why did they go for L (I am assuming L is for Li but still) So they are nicknames given to them by Auradon and Sherwood Academy(was that where he was, I don't really remember)
For once I want Lonnie and Shang Jr (I am intentionally not calling him Lil' Shang cuz honestly between the two Shang Jr is not as disturbing to me as Lil' Shang) to be sassy. And that 100% came from grandma Fa. You know Mulan's grandmother. I want that woman to teach her great grand children things she wasn't supposed to. Like and she words and how to trick mushu or something.
Another point is (I've seen someone talk about it, I'll credit them if I can find it) the situation with Yi-Min. They grew up together with Lonnie and her cousins. Like Mulan saved China with these man of course their children are best friends. Also I love that she also competes in the Auradon warrior thing.
One more thing, I know it's already too long and I didnt have my fixation on Mulan and Mulan 2 yet so Lonnie and family are not people I've given much thought about but still....
We knew King beast had like all magical and non magical stuff collected in the museum but why? Like why would you disarm MULTIPLE KINGDOMS. I hate that man.
Also, in Lonnie's Warrior sword it says "... There it(Shan Yu's sword) could be watched over by the Imperial Council, who oversaw all official matters in the Imperial City, until Lonnie was old enough to inherit it." Why? Why does Lonnie inherit a council. Okay I know her parents saved China but why does Lonnie inherit a council. (Do I need to rewatch the mulan movies? probably)
Anyway... with the addition of the All-Knowing-One and her potential is also being lost... I will finish my rant here.
I hope I answered your question and I am sorry if it's too long
What kind of job do you think Jane from descendants would have as an adult and why?
Tbh I am not sure, I've seen people say she would replace her mother at being the headmistress at Auradon prep but I dont agree with that. I've also seen fics that she is some sort of event planner and that seems more possible to me.
But personally i think she might have a place in Ben's court? I've had this fic idea that after some point Ben replaces his council mostly with young heirs and/or younger representatives when they start taking more roles in their kingdoms. So Jane might have a place in there. Like his advisor or a representative of fae-kind (because Jane always studied theory of magic and after wicked world she started to practice it too and I cannot be convinced otherwise)
I think I came up with it mostly because I want Ben to fix how his father messed up the kingdom and Jane to help him because the society failed her. Also I get mal and Jane bonding over magic so...
Also she volunteers in vets with Carlos as much as she can.
Every time Elon Musk does something stupid/embarrassing I always think to myself, “Dang. It’s a shame DuckTales is over, we could’ve gotten so many great Mark Beaks episodes making fun of this rich brat”
When Carlos and Jane first started dating Lonnie slipped out that Jane actually knows the flower language. Carlos trying to be thoughtful, learned it overnight (mostly) and made a bouquet. Only there was a flower that only grows with magic so he went to mal and maimed her til she had to grow the flower.
When Carlos gave the bouquet to Jane at first she was confused but then Carlos explained to her. There was a moment of silence followed by the warmest hug Carlos had ever got in his life
