Hi, me again. :D Ooh, I agree now that he's not ISTJ; for some reason there are some things (& he kinda looked like an ISTJ grandpa on I Live Alone lol). I guess when I say we're similar it's more like he's one of my "fave people", but SOMETHING about his personality development (the things he struggled with, the changes he went through, conclusions reached, etc.) is familiar. (I'm a Type 1, btw.) Is a 1w9 a weird guess? He's too serious/principled to be a 9... And is ISFP a crazy suggestion?
I’m glad you backed down on ISTJ. I think he’s not a 9 core because he’s too outspoken in some regards? Like he often speaks with a sensible dose of what I’ve believed to be Fe-like consideration before he speaks, but he’s still outspoken enough about things not to be a 9. I think 1w9 is sensible enough... I mean, I can definitely see him as a 1 but not entirely sure of his wing. ISFP....hmmm....I wouldn’t have said it because I’d interpreted his talking as a little more Fe-like.
When I read interviews, he always has a strong focus on himself, authenticity/sincerity, his dreams, etc.--seemingly like an Fi user. I struggle to see Fe in him (I’d love to hear more about his Fe you mentioned!); for instance, I don’t see him as duty-bound or particularly care-taking of others; he'd never change himself to fit in; he doesn't get others' feelings mixed up with his own; he does his own thing and doesn’t seem to look to others for approval. But maybe I'm overlooking something.
I don’t think he’s particularly “duty bound” in the Fe sense. I think we’d have seen more examples of “hey why isn’t Taeyang the leader” if that had been the case. I don’t think his Fe is particularly strong or overbearing, and just assumed it was the Ni taking centre stage. But what you’re saying about him not changing to fit in etc works for ISFP. I think “he doesn't get others' feelings mixed up with his own” is an oversimplification of how Fe works; Fe users can and will feel their own feelings as well as others’, and the “does his own thing and doesn’t seem to look to others for approval” may just be from the confidence of past achievements and success.
Him having inferior Se also sounds weird. He often expresses things that SEEM high Se, such as: “When I dance, after a certain point, I start to feel like my body becomes the music. Even if it’s a song I’m hearing for the first time, my body moves instinctively.” All of his hobbies are sensory too. I wanted to post a link to a buncha quotes I compiled to get your take, but it wouldn't allow. Too bad! Anyway, my apologies for trashing your site with ?s. lol Feel free to only post my initial one!
I’m interested in these links. I’m not sure now; I think the case for him being ISFP is definitely stronger than the ISTJ case was!! And there’s certainly a tendency for people to over-type as intuitives (for instance Seulgi is often typed as INFJ when she’s definitely ISxP). More ISFPs in the industry would make more sense overall.
(Me again; my apologies.) Wanted to add about Taeyang's enneagram: seems 1, 9, or 4. Whichever it is, I'd think he's self-pres. with social second? Not sure. How do you see it? (P.S. How cool about Raehwan's test!) (Also, no need to post this either. :p)
1w9 4w3 3w4 or something maybe? Not sure enough about the instinctual variants, he has pretty strong close personal relations so I might even say he’s sp/sx.
Interesting discourse though, thank you! To be honest, I am not a massive VIP so there’s still so much I could watch and discover about Taeyang. I’ll leave this open for now, no definitive typing!