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@markiplier

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“A sweet Darkiplier doll someone made for me in Cologne!”

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CANON ANSWERS ABOUT WKM (complete!)

I took notes watching the stream! Let me know if there’s anything integral that I missed– and you can bet SERIOUS MONEY that I’ll be piecing together more theories in the next few days!

CHAPTER ONE

CONFIRMED: WARFSTACHE PREQUEL.

“Bonjour” was an homage to ADWM.

Each character Mark plays has different quotes about “Life” (i.e. Life is for the living, life is ours to choose, life needs a bit of madness).

THE DRUNK SEQUENCE PREDICTS EVERYTHING!!

The Damien keg stand meant to signify that he’d be stuck in “the upside-down”, and when he tried to wake us up, that told us he was the only one who really wanted to help us!

ASSHOLE MARK NEVER DRINKS.

The Mayor turning gray means ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

Mark tried to make it obvious we would die, yet we were all still surprised (lmao).

CONFIRMED: In Mark’s own words, Damien is the only one with a “human” reaction to the death.

The Colonel was based on the hunter from Jumanji!

The Chef is scary, but inherently harmless.

Little Buddy’s “kill” mode is insignificant to the story and WAS an homage to FNaF.

CONFIRMED: COLONEL, MARK, AND DAMIEN WERE FRIENDS SINCE CHILDHOOD BUT HAD A FALLING-OUT.

And the dick on the body tape was 100% Ethan’s idea!! LMAO

CHAPTER TWO

CONFIRMED: The Colonel DOES “pop in and out of existence”, but he is NOT the only one to do so– just the most obvious.

Mark tried to make it “painfully apparent” that the Colonel was the one who did it.

Detective and Asshole Mark were friends at the same time he, Damien, and Colonel were friends– but the two did NOT know the Detective.

The long winding hall sequence with Detective was intentional– so we could get oriented with the house…

… because the house “does not follow the laws of physics”.

When following the Colonel out of the bedroom on the second floor, we warp with him to the first floor patio (with the pool).

The crib in the room was not a planned detail in the story.

CONFIRMED: The Colonel and Celine ran off together, and that’s what made Asshole Mark hate him.

CONFIRMED: IN THE WHOLE STORY, THERE IS NO HOST INVOLVEMENT WHATSOEVER.

CONFIRMED: The Colonel and Asshole Mark grew up together in that house, which is why the Colonel knows it so well and refers to it as “his own”. Mark even considered making those two characters be brothers!

CHAPTER THREE

“Hence the guns” is one of Mark’s favorite scenes in the series.

The cane is a sign of Damien’s high-class status as Mayor.

CONFIRMED: Celine and Asshole Mark were married.

Quote from Mark himself: “[Celine] wants what she wants, and she won’t let anyone get in her way”

Another quote: “She also has a temper… like someone else we know”

Mark’s original inclination was to make Damien and Celine be siblings, hence Celine’s adamant refusal of Damien’s help. (I caught onto this notion, but it didn’t really resonate with anyone else I talked to about it.)

Mark said that Celine wanted to use the viewer in the ritual because she saw them as expendable, since she didn’t know them personally.

There are no lightning strikes when George says “murder” because he hasn’t been inside the house for many years.

CONFIRMED: The house is cursed. (Make of that what you will.)

CONFIRMED: In the final door shot of Celine, she is possessed– because she messed with power beyond her control, and Damien was in the room with her at the time.

CHAPTER FOUR

The Colonel looks out for Celine and Damien– but NOT Asshole Mark.

The odd glowy room-walking sequence was supposedly a small view into another world– “the upside-down”, it was dubbed (but there’s debate about whether that region specifically was “the upside-down”)

There is debate as to whether this is how the Colonel “pops in and out of existence”.

We don’t see the Detective’s investigation room until that chapter because the house hid it from us.

In that room, there are post-its reading “DON’T TRUST THE SEER” (which I caught, but it was a very minor thing I had to watch multiple times to see)

The Colonel owed Asshole Mark A LOT of money.

As we fall, William says, “It was an accident, I swear!”

The original idea for the final gun scene was that Damien would walk in and be the one the Colonel shot, NOT us.

CONFIRMED: Asshole Mark had killed himself many times before, but returned to his body from “the upside-down”. That’s why he was stabbed 37 times, poisoned, beaten, strangled, drowned, AND shot– none of those happened on the same day. Asshole Mark tried his hand at the dark arts to achieve this.

CONFIRMED: The black eyes we see when Asshole Mark’s body speaks to us after we die is NOT his own spirit– it’s the spirit of someone else trapped there.

CONFIRMED: Damien had every intention of helping us! He did! Mark confirmed it– he wasn’t manipulating us at all, he just wanted the best for us!

CONFIRMED (!!!): William/the Colonel spent ten hours watching our body overnight and cradled Damien’s cane the whole time. (THE FEELS ARE REAL, GUYS! THEY’RE CANON!!)

CONFIRMED: The reason Wilford Warfstache’s suspenders are pink is because they used to be red, but they faded over many, many years.

Mark didn’t realize how tragic the ending really was until he was editing it. In his own words, it’s “terrifyingly sad”.

And, finally, the one we’ve all been waiting for…

CONFIRMED: DAMIEN PUSHED US OUT OF THE BODY. But he wasn’t manipulating us for that… he did it because he cared for us and didn’t think we deserved the true hell of what resurrection really meant. He did it because he thought it was the right thing to do.

[markiplier]

All pretty much spot on but I’d like to add clarification on the last point about Damien pushing the viewer out.

The being inhabiting your body at that point is no longer purely Damien nor purely Celine. Imagine two fractured halves of a picture that was stuffed into a broken frame they were never meant for.

Whatever good intentions went into this amalgamation were washed away when only the worst sides of either coin would fit into the slot. The Damien and Celine you know are gone. And when all the light has gone away, all that’s left is Dark.

You weren’t pushed out to be saved.

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The Final Chapter

Woah…okay….whew. Trying to collect my thoughts after watching that is…well it isn’t easy. First off, MAJOR PROPS TO TEAMIPLIER. This story has had so much heart and soul put into it, and there’s been an incredible dedication to quality and detail. Bravo, Mark and Co., bravo. 

So wtf just happened? After reading some theories by my friends at @wkm-theories and considering it, I’m gonna take a stab at unravelling this tangled web. 

So, #Markiplier lives. Does he? It’s gone far beyond that now. Maybe in the beginning it was that simple, but it isn’t anymore. There are parts I got right, and parts I didn’t. There are parts the community got right, and parts we didn’t, so let’s go through this piece by piece. 

First off, obviously at this point, this is indeed the origin story of Darkiplier, and of Warfstache too. But it’s a much sadder origin story than I think anyone was expecting. We know from the Colonel (whose first name I think must be Wilford) and Detective’s argument that Celine was in fact Mark’s wife, and that Colonel Wilford had an affair with her. While the Detective calls it “stealing” and “sick sexual exploits,” I think it is clear that he loves her very much. In the spirit world/afterlife/whatever place at the end, Celine says “I never thought he’d fall this far,” and that Mark took everything from them “from his twisted quest of vengeance.” With that in mind, this is my theory on the backstory:

As I said in my last theory, Mark, Damien, and Wilford grew up as childhood friends together. Mark went into the entertainment business, Wilford into the army, and Damien into politics. I also am now convinced that Markiplier Manor definitely used to belong to Wilford. Not just by his familiarity with the house, but by his conversation with the Chef just before Celine comes in in chapter two. As we know, the Chef calls him Private, and says “I don’t work for you anymore!” He then says in today’s episode that he’s been cooking for the people in the manor for 25 years, but he yells to Wilford that he quits. Why would he tell Wilford, wouldn’t it make more sense to tell the Butler at this point? But no, in some ways he still sees Wilford as his old boss…the old keeper of the manor. 

So anyway, the manor used to be Wilford’s home. And when he was a private in the army, Damien was at University (where you meet him) and Mark was trying to get his acting career started. Yes, in this universe, Mark is not just a YouTuber, but a flim/TV actor. This is evidenced by these photos from the Detective’s evidence room shown on @whokilledmarkiplier:

It is also worth mentioning that in the Meta Ending of A Date with Markiplier, Mark is an actor who is out on parole, working on a crummy side project. I think that these universes are connected, but more on that later. 

It isn’t easy to start an acting career, and you usually don’t make a lot of money in the process, so I think Wilford took Mark in and supported him while he was getting on his feet As he imitates Mark, he says “Forget all my FRIENDS or people who helped me along the way!” Wilford was one of those people. 

I also think that while Celine was friends with all of them, it was Wilford who loved her the most. While Mark in real life is a great guy, Mark in this story is kind of an asshole. Maybe Will and Celine once were dating, maybe Will never got up the courage to ask her. But Mark’s career took off and he married her himself before Wilford could. This obviously infuriated Wilford, and Mark grew distant. Then, to add insult to injury, Mark took the manor for himself, and even named it after his new stage name: Markiplier. This was the last straw for Wilford, and he secretly confessed his feelings to Celine, which she seemed quite happy to reciprocate and they had an affair. Maybe this version of Mark was once like the one in our world, but Fame and Money went to his head “Just look at my MONEY!” The Detective says that Wilford was also “squeezing him for cash” to fund dates with Celine. Will probably feels like Mark stole everything from him, so he doesn’t mind stealing back.

Damien, of course, being the politician and genuinely caring about all three of his friends, makes an effort to be on good terms with all of them. It is also likely that he is the one who introduced you to Mark. The two of you meet in college (You’re a DA, so you would have run in the same social circles), and when Damien and you both got jobs in the same city (LA, I assume) where Mark lived, the three of you formed your own friendship. 

Back to the affair: Mark obviously found out about it. Like Damien says at the end, he had been planning this for years. It’s even possible that Celine divorced Mark after he and Wilford had an altercation over her, and that it is after this divorce, which left her confused and hurt, that she sought solace in the arcane arts. Now, in this next matter, I was fairly close to the truth. Mark wanted to get back at Wilford, so he cam up with a revenge plan, and he hired the Detective to make sure that everything went down smoothly. However, the plan was not to discover who wanted Mark dead, but to frame the Colonel. And he used the Chef, Butler and Detective to help achieve that goal. 

There are multiple times they try to clue you into their plan, but they obviously don’t want Damien or Wilford to know about it, which is why they must be so covert. 

Mark’s plan was simple, but effective. Invite all of his closest friends to a poker night, fake his own death, and pin it on the Colonel. But what he didn’t count on was the supernatural getting in his way. 

There is some kind of force in that house. I’m going to call it Dark, but understand I don’t mean the persona of Darkiplier when I say that from here on out, I mean the entity that causes Darkiplier. Anyway, there’s no way of telling exactly how long Dark has been lurking on the manor, but it’s for at least 15 years based on George’s refusal to enter the house for that long. We also don’t know exactly how old our characters are. Suffice it to say though, Dark has been there for a long time. Again, this exposure to an extremely powerful evil entity could have contributed to Mark’s assholery, but we have no way of knowing for sure. 

From what I can gather, this is a force that feeds off of conflict. So when Mark and his friends began fighting, it grew stronger. When Mark began to plan his revenge, it grew stronger still. And finally, it grew strong enough to strike. 

“He trapped us in here with this broken shell and now there’s no way out” is what Damien says to you at the end. I think that Mark’s body is in fact dead, and Mark has made a deal with Dark. There are two possibilities here: The first is that Mark planned it that way from the beginning, to kill his body, blame the Colonel, and take Damien’s body for his own. The second (and I think more likely) is that Mark didn’t want to drag Damien and Celine into it, and that he didn’t even know about Dark’s force. In this scenario, Dark killed Mark and trapped him in the void where we see Celine and Damien at the end. Then, Dark gave him a choice (Dark loves choices): stay trapped in the void forever, or have Damien killed and take his body. Mark is already hurt and angry, and the Darkness has been feeding those emotions. When faced with that choice, he chooses to betray his friends to save himself. This is when the rest of the events unfold in the manor. 

I think that when the Butler says “the body is cold” to the Detective, he meant it. Mark’s body was dead at that point. But the Detective doesn’t realize just yet that Mark is really dead, he just thinks it’s part of the ruse. The Butler also suggests calling the police. He’s really concerned now, and while it was in their original plan to tell you about the plot, they’re unsure now of whether or not to tell you outright, so they resort to cryptic hints and clues. For all they know, you’re the one who really killed him, which is why the Detective acts like he trusts you but at times expresses doubts. As the tensions in the manor grow, Dark becomes more and more powerful, especially since he has Mark in his possession. He can manifest lightning when prompted, and he is able to steal Mark’s body and bring it to the void. Yes, I think that the Detective really was surprised when Mark’s body was gone. That wasn’t part of the plan. That was all Dark’s doing. With Mark’s mind AND body now in it’s possession, he is more powerful than ever.

Then, Celine arrives at the manor. Maybe she sensed something was wrong, maybe Dark lured her there, whatever. She arrives and her occult knowledge immediately tells her something is wrong. She then does exactly what Dark wants her to do and opens a conduit to his realm. Through this conduit, he possess her, and tries to possess you but you stop him, pulling out of the seance early. I think that it is your body that he had decided on, which is why “Celine” was so mad that you wouldn’t let her finish. 

While you’re outside with George, Dark uses Celine to take Damien’s consciousness into the void, and spits Mark back out into Damien’s body. Dark then takes control of Celine’s body but he is thwarted by George before he can accomplish whatever it is he needed a body for. Now with Celine’s body useless to him, Mark in control of Damien’s body and Celine and Damien’s minds in the void with him, Dark is in a bit of a pickle. Whatever he has, it isn’t enough, and he can’t just take it by force. He needs to be let in to fully take control (Celine let him in on accident in her seance, and then Dark manipulated Damien’s trust in her to trick him into letting him in as well). So he does what he does best: manipulation. 

When everything goes wibbly wobbly and you walk around the house hearing voices, that’s Dark’s influence over you. He doesn’t have total control because you haven’t given it to him, but he can lead you in the right direction. As you end up seeing the Detective’s frame job for the Colonel and then their confrontation, things get out of hand. Poor Wilford is slowly going mad at the possible loss of his friends, and he kills the Detective in a fit of rage. When you try to calm him down and take the gun, he accidentally kills you too. This is exactly what Dark needed to happen, another person to die. I think that Dark is a being that exists entirely by thought; he has some sway over the physical world but not enough to do anything major. But if a body is dead and the mind is all that remains, he can easily pull that mind into his domain, where it’s pretty hard to say no. 

So you die, and Dark takes your mind and traps it, in the same place he has Celine, Damien’s mind and Mark’s body trapped. And it is in this scene that we see the master manipulator that Dark is. I believe that while Celine and Damien’s consciousness are present in the void before you get here, Dark convinces them that this was all Mark’s doing. He insists that their only chance is to use you, that the three of you can fix it. Of course, he says all of this to fool them. They blame everything on Mark, and tell you so plainly. Dark wants you to share their thoughts so that you’ll agree to his plan. 

Your body is out there, broken, but still present. Celine says that she can send you back, and implies that this is only possible if you let Damien in so that together, you can stay alive. But that’s a flat out lie, it’s Dark that is really sending you out, not her. Your body is not ideal to him, but it’s all he has left now. The Chef, Butler, and Groundskeeper have left, Wilford is going insane, and the Detective doesn’t trust Damien OR Celine enough to listen to them. But you do. (That’s why Damien’s character is so appealing to us, it’s why they designed him to make us want to trust him. If we trust him, and he trusts Celine, then we’ll do what Celine says.) All Dark wants is our body, and the only way for him to get it is if we let him in. When Damien says “let me in”, the screen glitches for a moment. Up until then, it was Celine and Damien talking, but in that moment it was Dark. Reaching out to you. Beckoning you to just. let. him. in. 

Celine then says that this is a choice. This is also Dark speaking through her. Dark is obsessed with choice, but not just any choice. He uses the illusion of choice to get what he wants. When he made Mark choose between living in Damien’s body or being trapped in the void forever, there was really no outcome that would work in Mark’s favor. And either way, Dark could have used it somehow. In ADWM, he gives the illusion of offering more choices than Mark ever did, but only one choice will continue the story. And according to Mark in his livestream, originally the links at the end of that video were supposed to all go to the same place. He doesn’t offer choices, not really. He manipulates you into thinking you’re choosing what you want, when really it’s he who’s getting what he wants. 

And it works. You let him in, he sends you back, and you get to see the shattered remains of Wilford’s sanity crumble completely. Then, Dark reaches for Damien’s cane, and looks in the mirror. He has a body now, but it’s broken. A reanimated corpse (a zombie, get it? It was more than a joke!) that he doesn’t even have enough power to control on his own. He is forced to keep Damien (and possibly Celine) captive in his mind to maintain enough power to keep the body running. But he doesn’t need you anymore, he got all he wanted from you. He traps you in the mirror, and leaves you there, because that’s what social manipulators do: they get what they want out of you and then abandon you. Dark’s mannerisms when in this body are so similar to Damien’s because pieces of Damien’s personality poke through the facade. 

But in the end…

The Detective wasn’t wrong, it was more complicated than “It was Colonel Warfstache in the library with the candlestick.” Markiplier either killed himself or was killed by Dark, but his mind lives on in Damien’s body. Wilford, devastated at the loss of his friends and the blood on his own hands spirals into madness, The Staff leave the house, The Detective is dead, and you…

Your body is dead, possessed by a bitter spirit who didn’t get everything he wanted. So he goes after who started this whole mess in the first place…Markiplier. He follows Mark, fueled partly by Celine and Damien’s newfound hatred of him, fueled partly by his own desires as a parasite to keep feeding and growing, and pesters him to give him back Damien’s body. But Mark has learned his lesson and won’t let him in again. So Dark, now using the name “Darkiplier” turns to the next best thing…his fans. 

*Applauds* 

Wow @markiplier, you really outdid yourself this time! Thank you for this great experience, it was truly a pleasure to witness. 

Thank you everyone for reading not just this theory, but my other theories, as well as those on @wkm-theories that I helped compile. Thank you also to @valleyofrogues for creating wkm-theories and inviting me to help admin it, it’s been a blast! And don’t think we’re stopping today, we’re going to keep responding to your questions, compiling your theories, and share our thoughts with you throughout October. Something tells me this story isn’t over yet…

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Finally something I can get behind and really believe!

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So did Mark get killed by the Colonel (who didn't know what he was doing) and then was so angry that he got transported into this realm where he could get Celine's attention?

Then when Celine and Damien are alone, he pushes (or lures) them into his realm while taking Damien's body to be alive again ...

Then Damien and Celine combine themselves into our own body so that we come back to life ... then they become Dark and push us into the mirror and run of to take revenge on Mark for doing all he did?

..... I just don't get why Mark is the bad one ... he was killed ... how could he have "planned all that for years" like D and C say in the end?

SO MANY QUESTIONS

What happened to Celine's body? Why was Mark's body gone? Did the Colonel really kill him? And if he did it on accident how do you stab, drown, choke and shoot someone on accident?

Was Mark really already evil in the beginning of the first chapter ... why was he angry? Something about Wil stealing his wife? Whatttt?

[neonyellowsociety]

Jim: What’s it saying Jim? Jim: Jim! The spirits are speaking to us Jim! Ouija Board: S-H-A-R-E-S A-R-E A L-I-T-T-L-E L-O-W T-H-I-S M-O-N-T-H Jim: IT’S DEMON JIM, RUNNNNN!!!!!

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I still want that shirt

[my-relatable-hotchpotch]

Theory: Damien Dark is so mad at the Colonel Warfstache, that when he hits him, he dislocates his jaw, which caused his speech impediment.

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!!!!

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The Community on Tuesday: Damien is Dark is disguise and the Colonel is Wilford in disguise! Haha, bad costumes guys, we're onto you, you can't trick us!

The Community on Friday: *gross sobbing*

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Mark: *posts something* *Yzma voice* HE’S SUPPOSED TO BE DEAD

[thedgeofsleep]

oh damien.

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Yes please

[spookyscarydarky]

Another depressing-ish theory!

So I’m sure you all remember this part of CH.3, where the Colonel said he was sucked into the board game Jumanji?  We all thought it was just a funny reference Mark threw in to make us laugh?  Something to make the situation less tense?

But then we get this?

Safari Hunt Gone Wrong.  And there’s Colonel, right on the front cover.

I think Colonel was a sane man at some point, but something happened on this trip.  What happened, I don’t know, but I think it was enough to drive him a little crazy.  It made him more dangerous and unpredictable, but he’s still the lovable Colonel.

But then everything goes crazy, and Damien and Selene are nowhere to be found, and everyone around him is telling him to leave.  And he’s not going to leave, he NEEDS to find his friends, and it doesn’t matter who stands in his way.  That includes the Detective.  And us.

And it’s so sad because Damien and Selene are aware of his lack of sanity.  They knew him before he went mad, and they go out of their way to defend him; he was a good person, he’s just too…dangerous.  They still love him, no matter how horrible his actions become.  

And when we come back as Dark, the Colonel Wilford is elated!  He didn’t kill anyone, they’re just playing a prank on him!  He’s calling out for Selene and Damien, his best friends to come out already!  The jokes over, they got him good, what a prank they pulled!  But it isn’t a prank, and we can see the shift from the Colonel to Wilford.  The final snap.  The last of his sanity and understanding of death gone.

But Dark isn’t mad.  No, not at all.  Because Dark is still a combination of Selene and Damien, and those two still love the Colonel.  Even after the Colonel starts going by the name Wilford Warfstache, he’s still their best friend.  And he always will be.  

“I respect you Wil, I always have.” 

[tracobuttons]

He trapped us!

In this shot

The view in the mirror is relatively normal. It looks like we’ve come back in Damien’s body. Great! It worked!

However

Here the mirror’s cracked and we see the world in the reflection distorted. We’re now seeing Dark! He threw us out and put us in the world where he was. We let him in, he pushed us out.

It’s evident we’ve been tricked by him because:

Dark WALKS AWAY. If we were Dark, we would have turned with him, we would have seen the house as we stepped through but we don’t! We’re stuck! Dark left and got exactly what he wanted!

[thedgeofsleep]

I DIDN’T SIGN UP FOR THESE FEELS

[heyitsbumblebee]

okay but @markipliers who killed markiplier is super cool?? 

i hope everyone gets a happy ending !! 

[markiplier]

JIM’S GOT THE SCOOP

[whokilledmarkiplier]

www.markiplier.com

Available this weekend only!

[this-account-is-not-relevant]

I want one but no shipping to Germany :( @markiplier?

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I just didn't understand EVERYTHING from Chapter 4 ... what exactly happened to the real Mark in the end? And what did Celine and Mark mean by "his revenge"? Did Mark plan on killing them? Or were they talking about the Colonel? No, they said the Colonel is a good man ... also when they use you/us to come back, were they already Dark or did their fusion trigger something evil in them? And will they kill the Colonel now? I'M CONFUSED! ANY THOUGHTS?