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[this-is-fat-consequences]

[saintcranky]

One thing I have found amazing and mind boggling, is that people will accept that the human body naturally puts on weight and refuses to release it as a survival mechanism. Which is why it’s so hard to lose weight.

They will at the same time also understand and believe there are people who are naturally thin and who cannot gain weight to save their lives.

But they adamantly refuse to understand and believe there are people who are naturally fat and cannot lose weight to save their lives. 

They also refuse to believe fat people can be fit and healthy while being fat.

It tells me just how persuasive advertising and the media is.

[snarkingonfatlogic]

People don’t accept it because it’s straight up nonsense. I mean, think about it - why does your body store excess calories as fat? Because it is useful in times of famine and want. If you restrict your calorie intake to less than your body uses to main weight equilibrium, it will start to use its reserves. 

The idea that the body wouldn’t use stored fat when in a deficit is absurd on its face; it’s akin to someone getting evicted for not paying the rent when they have a million in the bank, because the million is for emergencies. Do you really think that your body, which evolved for the sole purpose of survival, is that stupid? Because if you do, I have some beach front property in Arizona that I think you might be interested in. 

Nobody is naturally thin or fat. Your levels of body fat are a consequence of calorie intake, and nothing more. Eat too much for your activity level, and you will become fatter; eat too little, and you will lose weight. It’s that simple.

Nobody is in a position of being unable to lose weight in a calorie deficit, else we’d have seen obese people in Auschwitz, or lots of dead fat babies in Ethiopia.

Fat and fit is essentially a myth; excess adipose tissue is dangerous.

[fantasiahippo3]

Your fat body is not the problem. Our fat-hating society is the problem.

“Bad” foods are not the problem. Bad or negligent healthcare from fatphobic doctors is the problem. 

Your fears and insecurities about your body aren’t the problem. The diet industry, which plants, reinforces, and profits from our insecurities, is the problem. 

You are not the problem. Your body does not deserve your hatred. Cherish yourself, and direct your anger outward at the institutions that create, uphold, and enforce an environment where you and your body are so disrespected. Then harness that anger into action, and help create change. 

[feels-by-the-foot]

Oh, cut this shit out. Right now. 

Your fat body IS the problem. It’s going to KILL YOU. You’re going to DIE from complications caused by excess fat. Other people judging your belly matters MUCH less than you LOSING YOUR LIFE. 

BAD FOODS ARE THE PROBLEM. If you eat healthy, you will be HEALTHIER. These bad foods are MAKING YOU FAT. See above. 

Don’t hate your body, IMPROVE IT. Be more interested in living a long, healthy, happy life, than giving in to faux-positive posts like this that don’t want you to improve. Direct your anger at your poor diet habits, and make yourself the BEST you that you can be. 

[fantasiahippo3]

Oh, cut this shit out. Right now.

Your fatphobia IS the problem. It’s going to HURT PEOPLE. People DIE from long-term effects of fatphobia on their self-worth and mental health, and through negligent healthcare. Other people judging our bodies matters MUCH LESS than our need for support as a community, including uplifting posts that remind us that we’re people who deserve respect and quality health care.

PEOPLE SHOULD BE ABLE TO EAT FOOD WITHOUT THE GUILT OF EATING SOMETHING “BAD” OR “NOT ALLOWED.” If you truly want people to be healthier, focus on improving their MENTAL HEALTH. See above.

Don’t hate fat people, IMPROVE THE SOCIETY WE LIVE IN. Be more invested in diversifying your understanding of nutrition theory, updated scientific studies about fatness, and the voices of people who are fat. Direct your anger at the people who make life hell for fat people out of faux concern for our health, and make our society the BEST it can be for everyone, not just thin people.

[slumberinggirl-deactivated20210]

Except fatness on your body will kill you, especially when there are large amounts of it. Having some chub is perfectly fine, and is actually more healthy than being a tad too skinny.

It’s been proven that being thinner and exercising actually increases your happiness by releasing dopamine. Loosing weight, while it won’t solve all your problems, will certainly help your overall health.

When you’re obese, you run the very high risk of developing cancer, diabetes, hearth failure, heart attack, and even death. It can put a strain on your bones and exasperate mild health problems.

Now, if you shame someone for being fat, you’re an asshole. Someone being overweight or obese does not mean they’re subhuman. Miss me with that shit. But, it’s a different thing to point out that OP’s way of thinking is toxic. Fat is the source of many problems, and it’s unhealthy. You really shouldn’t go up to a random person and mock them for being fat, cuz that’s rude. Be encouraging to others, help them when they ask for it, and respect them.

Loosing weight is hard, but it’s not impossible. For anyone on the road to loosing weight, good luck and be careful!!

If you drop too much weight in a short amount of time, see a doctor ASAP.

Don’t excercise so much that you hurt your body. It’s normal to feel sore and somewhat painful after a workout, but if you can’t move, that’s probably a bad sign. If you’re still in significant pain after three days, call a doctor.

You don’t have to starve yourself to loose weight. Just change your diet a bit. And it’s okay to have cheat days.

Don’t become obsessive over loosing weight. You could develop an eating disorder.

It’s important to love your body. Take care of it and keep it healthy ❤️❤️

[theeggshavelegs-deactivated2019]

“Fatphobia”

[this-account-is-dead-ya-noobs-d]

Op let’s compare a healthy heart to a heart that an obese person has…

This is what the body of a person who is obese vs a person who healthy.

From head to toe, you can see the difference between each of these.

It’s science. Being obese is NOT healthy and shouldn’t be praised!

When people like you say that being fat is “beautiful”, you’re encouraging bad behavior that will lead to death coming much, MUCH sooner than it needs to be.

[antifallacy]

^ Thank you for your health FACTS

The fat acceptance movement is one more example of a political/social movement ignoring science because it contradicts with their goals and hurts their feelings.

[snarkingonfatlogic]

“the meds I am currently on make it all but impossible to shed weight”

LOL NO

Your hand lifting your fork makes it all but impossible to shed weight.

[necroromancerdoll-deactivated20]

specific common and regularly prescribed medications do make it difficult to lose and cause you to automatically gain weight. it happens to many on birthcontrol and depression mediciations. i am not overweight or advocating.

[snarkingonfatlogic]

Nope. They have weight gain as a side effect because they mess with appetite and/or tiredness. Medication doesn’t override physics.

[necroromancerdoll-deactivated20]

what are your sources?

[snarkingonfatlogic]

That’s not how this works. The scientific consensus is that excess weight is gained through excess calories; you’re the one proposing an entirely new mechanism for weight, so you’re the one who needs to back it up.

I await your response and subsequent Nobel Prize with bated breath.

[necroromancerdoll-deactivated20]

i seriously want some medical sources that say medications such as birth control cant make it difficult to lose and easy to gain weight

[pricessred]

Except that’s not what he’s saying? Prescription medication can make it more difficult to gain/lose weight, but not impossible in the slightest. Hormonal birth control, corticosteroids, anti histamines, mood stabilizers and drugs used for seizures or migraines work in the same way, which is that they affect our hormones that tell our brain when we need food or not. These are our hunger cues. Weight gain is listed as a side effect for these medications because when on them, many people will feel hungry more often, which leads them to eating more than they need. This problem can be solved by counting calories instead of listening to your damaged hunger cues. You will still be giving the body the amount of food it needs by doing this.

Depression medications can sometimes do this as well, but it can also just restore a persons appetite, since weight loss is so common with depression. If this is the case, calorie counting, or just not eating when not hungry will solve weight gain.

Beta blockers lower your heart rate and blood pressure. When you’re at an elevated blood pressure, you burn more calories than the average person of your body stats. Once you begin taking beta blockers, if you try to eat the same way you once were, you will be eating over your daily expenditure of calories, since you are now burning the same amount as most people with your body stats. This can be solved by either calorie counting, or even just slightly lowering your food intake, because there isn’t usually a drop in daily expenditure of calories greater than 250 cals.

Diabetes medications can affect how our body reacts to insulin, and also stimulate appetite. Usually this is a side effect that wears off once the body adjusts to the medication though. Once again, all will be solved by simply counting calories.

There is no medication that magically makes a person overweight, especially not adding upwards of a hundred pounds. And weightloss is still just as possible for these people as well. It is slightly more difficult, mentally more than anything, just because you will feel hunger cues more often than someone else trying to lose weight, but a healthy weight can help regulate these hunger cues a little bit. You can also learn ways of eating your food that trick your brain into feeling full. In my opinion, these vary amongst people. Some say dividing their calories into six small meals a day helps them. Others say two large meals a day works for them. Some prefer lean cuts of protein to feel full, others prefer healthy fat. That’s going to take some experimenting to figure out what works best for the individual.

http://www.diabeticlivingonline.com/medication/insulin/does-your-medicine-make-you-gain-weight?page=0%2C0

http://blogs.plos.org/obesitypanacea/2014/06/24/do-antihistamines-make-you-gain-weight/

https://www.webmd.com/diet/obesity/features/medication-weight-gain

[this-is-fat-consequences]

Me: Anorexia is a disease.

Fat Acceptance Advocate: Amen!

Me: Anorexia is not attractive.

FAA: Fuck, no, it's not!

Me: Not eating enough is not healthy.

FAA: Completely true!

FAA: Get those women some cheeseburgers!

Me: It is completely possible to recover from anorexia and get to a healthy weight, and maintain it!

FAA: Yaaaassss, help those skinny bitches!

Me: Obesity is a disease.

FAA: The fuck did you just say?

Me: Obesity is not attractive.

FAA: Wow, that's fucking cruel.

Me: Over-eating is unhealthy.

FAA: You don't know shit about my metabolism.

FAA: Weight and food aren't connected!

Me: It is completely possible to lose weight and get to a healthy weight and maintain it!

FAA: ALL DIETS FAIL.

FAA: YOUR WEIGHT LITERALLY CANNOT CHANGE.

FAA: YOU ARE A FATPHOBIC BITCH.

FAA: FUCKING DELETE YOUR BLOG.

[frozen-toad83]

Savage

[lwbg]

Super-morbidly obese fat activist Cora Segal, aka Trigglypuff, needs more “diet talk.” She needs to realize that she is endangering her health by eating whatever she likes in huge portions. “You have the basic biological right to consume energy in the form of food” - no one is denying that; what we are saying is that your eating habits are extremely unhealthy, and your fat activist rhetoric denies that. That is why it is dangerous.

[this-is-fat-consequences]

I believe trigglypuff’s parents must be dyslexic, and accidentally transposed the letters in “Orca” when they named her “Cora”.

[feministism]

stop telling boys they have to be a certain height to be attractive. stop saying it’s funny when guys are short. stop making fun of things people can’t control

you might have a “type” and that’s fine, but just because someone doesn’t fit your idea of good-looking doesn’t mean they aren’t

[snarkingonfatlogic]

Don’t you also promote fat positive stuff? That’s a little inconsistent, isn’t it?

[yellowtreeelectricityfeminist-d]

saying that boys dont have to be tall to be handsome while also saying that girls dont have to be skinny to be pretty sounds very consistent to me

[snarkingonfatlogic]

The point is that height is not within someone’s control, but weight is.

[feministism]

thinking that weight is always in someone’s control is completely ignorant, but besides that, are you actually butthurt that I encourage “inconsistent” positivity (a.k.a: positivity that doesn’t fit your body standard)?

takes quite a person to get offended by someone telling people to feel comfortable in their skin, even more of a person to get offended by other people’s body types.

[snarkingonfatlogic]

First thing: weight gain is always a matter of excess calories. So, yeah, it’s always in your control.

Second: who’s offended? You’re the one who sounds butthurt here. I just pointed out that you’re being inconsistent; you’re the one who went on a screeching fit.

[feministism]

actually obesity can also be caused by genetics, metabolism, medication, psychological factors, diseases (like hypothyroidism, for example) and even social issues. like I said, completely ignorant to assume it’s always just about eating. that isn’t even an opinion that you can disagree with either. it’s literally ignorant.

the offendedness I mentioned wasn’t necessarily referring to your comment on my post (good try though!), but to the entirety of your account: you have an account dedicated to body shaming people and telling others what to do with their lives, so whether you actually are or not, you come off as pushy and offended (by other people’s choices, of all things) since that’s your whole focus.

some [psychologists] would say that your pushing your “ideal body” views on other people is a reflection of your own insecurities and self worth, so if that’s the case, I genuinely hope you find peace with yourself someday, as it is something we all deserve. :)

[snarkingonfatlogic]

Nope. The only thing that causes weight gain is excess calorie intake. People’s motivations for overeating may change, but overeating is the one thing that can cause weight to accumulate.

“Dedicated to body shaming”? Ha, that’s funny. I’m dedicated to making fun of people who lie, people who are promoting and worsening the current massive public health crisis that is obesity. Those goalposts are a little too big for you to try shifting.

And please, take your weasel words about psychologists and try throwing them at someone stupid enough to fall for that kind of ham fisted, adolescent manipulation; you’re not going to get any traction here with that kind of transparent nonsense.

[heartandstride-deactivated20190]

Stomping your feet and insisting that weight gain is excess calorie intake when plenty of people who know more than you say otherwise and say it’s a lot more complex than that is pretty sad, don’t you think? 

If you can’t accept that weight gain/loss is a bit more complex than “overreating” and are more than happy to bodyshame, maybe you just are not actually concerned with obesity rates. You just really hate fat people. 

[snarkingonfatlogic]

Every single study and piece of evidence available says that weight gain cannot happen without excess calorie intake, and here you are, reeing and screeching at me, and you’re saying that I’m the one stamping my feet?

That’d be hilarious if it weren’t so obviously hypocritical projection. You’re projecting so much that you could get work as a IMAX. A multiplex IMAX. A chain of theaters!

When you can find a valid, repeatable study that says that weight gain is caused by anything but eating over TDEE, you might have a point. But here’s the thing: you can’t and won’t find it, because such a thing does not and cannot exist.

Thermodynamics is a fundamental principle of the universe, which cannot be overridden, and it does not allow for matter to appear from nowhere. So, yeah. Please, come at me with your study showing that your body somehow beats physics, and then we’ll talk.

I don’t hate fat people. I’ve been a fat person; I know fat people, I work with and live with them, they are my friends and family and coworkers. Who I hate is people like you, who lie about it, who try to convince others that the biggest ongoing health crisis in history isn’t a problem, that it isn’t soluble, that it should be just left alone, and I hate people like you because I don’t want to see people I care about die too early of preventable diseases, and because no man is an island.

[thinningbeautyyy]

Unpopular opinion here, but I genuinely feel like this whole fat positive/fat acceptance movement is doing more harm than good. Obesity is the second leading cause of preventable death in the United States (smoking being the first). If it is okay to shame someone for smoking, why is it not okay to shame someone for being fat? Both are unhealthy and can/will cause you to die an early and painful death.

[snarkingonfatlogic]

Thin privilege is not having to lose weight in order to “prove” that you care about your health to the Social Security Administration and that therefore your disability is “legitimate” and qualifies you for disability benefits. (Seriously. That was in my denial letter. That I hadn’t lost weight even though I had been “counselled” by doctors to do so and that therefore I obviously wasn’t following doctor direction and I obviously don’t care about my health and therefore must be exaggerating my disability and my symptoms. I shit you not.)

Sure, Jan.

Before failure to follow prescribed treatment for obesity can become an issue in a case, we must first find that the individual is disabled because of obesity or a combination of obesity and another impairment(s). Our regulations at 20 CFR 404.1530 and 416.930 provide that, in order to get benefits, an individual must follow treatment prescribed by his or her physician if the treatment can restore the ability to work, unless the individual has an acceptable reason for failing to follow the prescribed treatment. We will rarely use “failure to follow prescribed treatment” for obesity to deny or cease benefits.

[…]

If an individual who is disabled because of obesity (alone or in combination with another impairment(s)) does not have a treating source who has prescribed treatment for the obesity, there is no issue of failure to follow prescribed treatment.

[…]

When a treating source has prescribed treatment for obesity, the treatment must clearly be expected to improve the impairment to the extent that the person will not be disabled. […]  we will not find failure to follow prescribed treatment unless there is clear evidence that treatment would be successful. The obesity must be expected to improve to the point at which the individual would not meet our definition of disability, considering not only the obesity, but any other impairment(s).

Finally, even if we find that a treating source has prescribed treatment for obesity, that the treatment is clearly expected to restore the ability to engage in SGA, and that the individual is not following the prescribed treatment, we must still consider whether the individual has a good reason for doing so. In making this finding, we will follow the guidance in our regulations and SSR 82-59, which provide that acceptable justifications for failing to follow prescribed treatment include, but are not limited to, the following:

The specific medical treatment is contrary to the teaching and tenets of the individual’s religion.

The individual is unable to afford prescribed treatment that he or she is willing to accept, but for which free community resources are unavailable.

The treatment carries a high degree of risk because of the enormity or unusual nature of the procedure.

In this regard, most health insurance plans and Medicare do not defray the expense of treatment for obesity. Thus, an individual who might benefit from behavioral or drug therapy might not be able to afford it. Also, because not enough is known about the long-term effects of medications used to treat obesity, some people may be reluctant to use them due to the potential risk.

Because of the risks and potential side effects of surgery for obesity, we will not find that an individual has failed to follow prescribed treatment for obesity when the prescribed treatment is surgery.

So, having looked at the above wall of text from the SSA, we find, in short, that they will deny disability payments for obesity on the grounds of prescribed treatment from a doctor that is no overly burdensome. 

In other words, @matchgirl42 got told by her doctor that she was fat because she eats too much, and that the treatment for it was not eating too much, and she’s mad because she can’t scam the SSA and get paid for sitting on her backside and eating bonbons all day.

[snarkingonfatlogic]

Actually, that would be Type I.

Type 2 diabetes is a genetic disease. And even if it wasn’t, you aren’t a bad person for having a disease. It’s ok to be fat.

Type II diabetes is primarily caused by obesity and associated factors, such as poor diet and lack of exercise. Some people are more genetically susceptible to Type II, but not in the vast majority of cases; furthermore, genetic susceptibility only really plays a role if you don’t mitigate risk factors.

In short, if you got Type II, it’s probably your lifestyle, and while you’re not a bad person for having it, you are responsible for having it.

It’s not OK to be fat.

[truebodyposi]

This is how Fat Acceptance works.

Take a legit concept: “Women have, on average, a higher body fat percentage than men.”

Misunderstand the actual reasoning behind this: “Women’s bodies are always in a state of ‘MUST PREPARE FOR BABY’. Fat is necessary to produce and maintain hormones (including sex hormones), and promote healthy development of the fetus during pregnancy. Women who have very low body fat are at risk of losing their menstrual cycle and becoming infertile.”

Miss the greater point: “Body fat percentage and weight are not inherently linked.“ 

Just jump to your own understanding: “Women are SUPPOSED to weigh more than men.”

Apply your misunderstood conclusion to your life: “I weigh 300lbs because I’m female. Not because I eat 4,000 calories of junk food and “health” food a day.“

Defend your fucked up logic: "You don’t agree with me????? FATPHOBIA AND MISOGYNYYYYYYY”

[witchandbadbitch]

I can’t imagine how miserable you must be to literally dedicate a blog to shame women for being overweight? Like just let people live their lives and be happy?

[fit-to-fat-reincarnate]

Shame is a feeling that can only come from the inside. If someone felt shame, it’s because they believe that they truely aren’t living up to their own standards because someone brought an issue to their attention.

The West is currently in an obesity epidemic, not an ” unhappy” epidemic. Obesity has horrific consequences on the human body, economy, and environment, consequences that many people wish to comfortably ignore until they turn 40 and shit hits the fan.

20% of children in the US are obese. This is child abuse.

Ignoring and denying the consequences of overconsumption is ignorance.

[healthacceptance]

“You’re lucky you’re skinny” I’m lucky that I’m aware of the fact that eating healthy foods in decent portions and exercising every day is the thing that actually keeps me thin and in shape.

[redhotpussyliqours]

this post is ugly as hell what the fuck

[d0uble0hd0nut]

Okay what about people who have eating disorders, still do all of the above, but aren’t ‘thin and in shape’ as you say, you ignorant fuck

[pricessred]

People with eating disorders should focus on their mental health first, but recovery programs also will teach healthy portions and moderate exercise once mental health is more stable. And there are so many more overweight people than people with eating disorders, playing that card is just your way of attempting to invalidate a good post about healthy eating and exercise.

[quecksilvereyes]

Healthy eating and exercise isn’t the world and is by far not the only thing keeping people in shape.

Why don’t you stop caring about other people’s bodies, they are none of your business

[fit-to-fat-reincarnate]

Hey, guess you have a hard lesson to learn that not everything is about you and your eating disorder. Nothing in that post said food and exercise are everything, but nice projecting.

Body weight and fitness level isn’t luck, it’s the physical display of the culmination of choices that person made for themselves in the last year or more.

It’s not chance that someone has strong muscles, god’s don’t gift endurance to long distance runners, and genetics doesn’t guarantee a healthy body fat percentage. It takes consistent application of DISCIPLINE.

The original post was about jealous unmotivated bitches invalidating the hard work she (herself, talking only from her own experience!) put in to maintain a healthy lifestyle in an obesogenic environment.

Again, not sure where eating disorders even come into play here. Fat or thin is not by chance, it’s by choice. Hundreds of choices a day, in fact.

[this-account-is-dead-ya-noobs-d]

So woke up this morning, I found that I recieved this. Couldn’t respond btw.

Thought okay, weird. Then I saw this.

Couldn’t reblog it, cause, yet again, blocked.

So, I’m gonna respond in this post.

1. Yeah, there IS something wrong with being obese. People who are obese get there by intaking a lot more food then they can burn. It is a gluttony issue. We need to teach people that you don’t need to take in a lot of food and to limit how much you can eat.

2. Medical problems are not subjective. If it affects you even if you don’t feel it, you know, like how all diseases start out. You don’t feel the affects until it’s either too late or it become more and more prominent. Plus, what about people with Congenital insensitivity to pain (CIP) it’s also congenital analgesia. If they broke an arm and they didn’t feel it would their medical problem be objective? No! It’s a broken arm!

3. Honey, if someone tries to talk you out of a destructive behavior, they care more than the person who is gonna look away and agree with you because your “happy”.  I’ve known obese people who know they have to change. Plus how is being so fat that you can’t get out of bed, or can’t walk more than a few feet beautiful? It’s a sign of worse to come and people have DIED from diseases linked to their obesity and/or because of their obesity.

4. There’s not “projecting fears onto someone” it’s called concern. It’s what people who love you do when they see something that worries them. Young people may not feel the affects of obesity, but when you’re hitting the 40-50. It’s gonna hit them hard.

No, what’s good and bad for your body is determined by science and doctors who actually learned about how your body works and what it needs @reginavonallen, not a buzzfeed video or a baseless tumblr blog post.

The only one who is projecting here, is you.

[this-account-is-dead-ya-noobs-d]

“Being obese doesn’t mean you’re not healthy! Do what you think is best for your body! You can be healthy in every size!!”

Science, Doctors, people who’s lives were bad and health were going downhill when they were obese and are trying to be healthier/are healthier, everyone who lost their family member to obesity:

[truebodyposi]

It’s a start of a new year.

Don’t let people convince you it can’t be a new start for you.

Healthy weight loss is possible.

Studies have shown “fat and fit” is not real.

Obesity is an illness.

The fact everyone can lose weight is a law of thermodynamics

You are not stuck as you are.

You can change your life.

[fuck-thinner-eat-dinner]

why are you anti-fat acceptance?

The fat acceptance movement is stupid. 

The idea that obesity and rampantly unhealthy lifestyles should be accepted and normalized is absurd.  The fat acceptance movement is full of people with victim mentalities who would rather pretend that they are unable to improve their health through diet and exercise than admit that they do not want to put forth the effort it takes to treat their bodies with respect, much like the pro-ed movement.  

FA activists destroyed the original definitions of HAES and body positivity by warping them to fit their agenda.  “Healthy At Every Size” is completely inaccurate.  Body positivity now appears to apply only to people who are “oppressed,” not to the “privileged” ones that happen to appear thin and have healthy BMIs and active lifestyles.  Not to mention the fact that scientific evidence and medical professionals are portrayed in such a negative manner simply for hurting FA feelings.  The #effyourhealthstandards tags on social media pretty much sum that up.  

I refuse to accept a movement that promotes rampant unhealthiness under the guise of “Love yourself!”  Working to stay healthy is loving your body. Years from now, FA supporters will be dealing with the consequences of their bunk social crusade and wishing they had done more to maintain and preserve the only body they’ll ever have. 

Thanks for the message! :)