The intersection between transphobia and sanism

And everything in between. pro everything

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Welcome to this-is-transsanism

Rules and examples under cut

Some ground rules

Dont use disorders as slurs. Don't call people delusional or narcissistic or autistic or bipolar or schizo or psychopathic in a mean way.

Also be serious about disorders. Ocd and adhd arent fun silly quirks. Did isn't the evil alter disorder and even if it was we still wouldnt let you make horrible "jokes" about it

Educated self diagnosis is ok. Armchair diagnosis is discouraged but feel free to offer advice/help (for example: anon wondering if they're plural -> offer plural resources. Do not *tell* someone they are a system and do not encourage uneducated sdx - you are not doctors. offering help and education is ok but seriously don't tell.people what they are

if you have a disorder and someone is wondering if they have the same one (for example if you are autistic and anon is wondering) then you are free to offer your experiences as a reference point but keep in mind everyone is unique

Please don't use the word "neuro-spicy" or whatever nonsense

We ❤️ trans men, trans women, non binary and intersex people alike. Perisex cis people are allowed if they're respectful + their gender affects their experiences with sanism in some way

mature posts will be posted with a content label

Minors are allowed but be warned that your experiences may differ significantly from your adult peers so don't take everything as word of god

we don't have every disorder so we may be uneducated on some. Feel free to correct us if something happens

You are allowed to send in asks about pluralphobia, but it will be put under a unique tag. We do not fakeclaim or support harassment campaigns.

Mod X (me) is plural and intersex/transmasculine, we use they/them. We also have a collection of mental and physical disabilities.

Inspired by blogs such as @this-is-transandrophobia @thisis-intersexism and @this-is-ableism

FAQ:

What is transsanism?

Transsanism is the intersection between gender divergency and neurodivergency. This includes non binary people, intersex people, people of colour and people whose gender presentation doesn't align with white heteronormative expectations. This also includes *anything* that isn't exactly neurotypical - which, yes, includes depression and anxiety, because no matter how "standard" they may seem they are still made into victims of sanism. Transsanism is how the world treats you, and how you experience it.

What is sanism?

Sanism is when you are discriminated against for a disorder or disability you may have or present with. For example, you may know that people with intellectual disabilities and learning disabilities (autism, ADHD, dyslexia, down syndrome...) are often referred to as "retards", which is a slur that most people have not reclaimed.

Another example of sanism is when people use words such as "narc", "psycho," "delulu" or "schizo" in a negative way or as jokes. Real people have these issues and they are not necessarily life-ruiners, so to use these words so casually practically makes jokes out of the people who really need help and want to talk about their experiences. Using ADHD or OCD as jokes also erases the real experiences that people with these disorders have.

Sanism is ableism, but disincludes physical disabilities whereas ableism includes anything that changes your living experience than to a "normal" person. In this way it is under the ableism umbrella but is its own thing. You may have heard of Mad Pride, which includes neurodivergent people but disincludes neurotypical disabled people.

Examples of transsanism?

My doctor refuses to get me gender affirming care because he thinks my plurality will somehow interfere with it.

Being put in an asylum or ward for queerness.

People wrongly insisting that your transness is because of your disorders and discriminating against you for it.

Being denied resources and help because of your transness or neurodivergency.

Do you take submissions that aren't transsanism?

Yes! We take submissions such as: headcanons, positivity, questions and resources. We also take anything that has gender and neurodivergency overlap, even if not transsanism - if you are trans because of your disorder, you're valid too! Cisgender sanism experiences are welcome, if it is about gender expression affecting it.

If you're making a joke about your own disorder, ensure you make it clear - for example if I'm doing a satire/joke about my plurality I'd probably say something like "it's SO transsanist that we can't shapeshift"

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This is transmisogyny, but also a bunch of saneism.

There was a transphobic post trying to imply that trans women are fetishizing girlhood or little girls. And that that makes them dangerous. Because, you know, any day that ends in “y” is a good day to predatorjacket a transfem. But it basically stated “trans women say they do this stuff to “cope with their stolen girlhood”, but I know a bunch of *actual* women who had their girlhood stolen [insert graphic details of people’s trauma that you probably didn’t have consent to even share] and none of them dress like kids or have sleepovers or do ageplay”. Obviously trying to imply that none of these are actually genuine responses to not having had a comfortable and happy childhood as a girl and the trans women online doing them must be doing them for some other, sinister reason.

And, like, the transphobia and transmisogyny was fucking vile. But also, like, what is your opinion on age regression, both voluntary and involuntary? What is your opinion on trauma-borne paraphilia, up to and including things like autopedophilia? How do you view syskids in dissociative systems, especially syskids who don’t always make an active effort to mask as the age of the body? How do you think of these things? Because my guess is just straight-up saneism.

Maybe it’s not that cis women don’t do these things to cope and trans women must not be coping this way either, and instead just act childish to be predatory. Maybe it’s that you don’t know that cis women act like this, because you have proven time and time again that you are not a safe person to ever discuss these topics around and you never will be.

this is transsanism.

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I’ve submitted this to the general exorsexism blog, but I’m also submitting it here because it’s definitely also sanism.

The way that it/its enbies with PTSD get treated.

Your own opinions about why you prefer it/its pronouns do not matter whatsoever. You are not worth listening to regarding why you connect more with those pronouns than any others. You have a Disorder so it’s because of The Disorder. You would obviously only use it/its due to trauma messing with your self-perception anyway. And people should refuse to use it to “heal you”. Whether or not you want to be healed or whether repeatedly misgendering you and acting self-righteous about it would ever even heal you are not questions worth answering. We’re trying to Heal You so just let yourself be misgendered. It’s for your own good. To cure your PTSD.

People will even go so far as to armchair diagnose all it/its users with PTSD. Before I blocked everyone in that tag, one of the top posts in the #anti it/its pronouns tag was basically “I’m sorry you went through something horrible, and I’m equally sorry you internalized the resulting dehumanization and objectification to the point of actually identifying with it. But I’m not going to help you feed into that by calling you an it. “It” isn’t a valid pronoun”.

Oh, and this is when people are pretending to be nice and benevolent and see themselves as saving lost traumatized disordered souls who for some reason don’t want to be saved. As soon as the mask comes off, everything just shifts into pure vitriol and stabbing us where it hurts worst.

Signed, a they/them enby who’s really a they/it enby, but who’s genuinely scared to actually wear an it/its pin. And who feels like me being able to do it is contingent on me being able to successfully mask all my PTSD symptoms.

this is transsanism, and honestly gross that the "#anti it/its" tag even exists.

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The transphobes who call gender-affirming care “the modern lobotomy” and say in the future we’ll look back on using hormones and surgery to treat dysphoria the same way we looked at using lobotomies to treat mental illness. I cannot express how evil this is to say.

I say this from the perspective of someone who regrets the HRT I was prescribed. I’m not technically a “detransitioner”, or not completely. But I’m a nonbinary person who once identified as binary trans out of belief that that was the only “legitimate” option, and that transition also had to be medical to be legitimate. Basically I had a lot of transmed views. I ended up getting further dysphoria from HRT and ended up in a place where I regretted what it did to me and getting it at all. I medically detransitioned (stopped taking it and cancelled my prescription) and now I’m probably just going to stay like this (although I have also looked into more physically neutral options concerning medically transitioning). I do understand feeling like a medical treatment was a negative in the end.

I also say this as a survivor of psychiatric abuse and abuse for being mentally ill done in the name of “fixing me”.

No amount of negative feelings from regret or side effects of HRT will ever come even close to the trauma I experienced from the things they did to me in those places. I guarantee that the transphobes and the detrans grifters who say this kind of thing have never experienced that. Because it is not comparable. I can name a lot of things that I could call “the modern lobotomy”. Almost all of them are things transphobes advocate for on trans people to “cure them of the delusion of being the opposite sex”. You might regret having taken HRT. But you were not pinned down by significantly older complete strangers, restrained with straps roughly while terrified, and forcefully injected with HRT against your protests, because you were “crazy” and that’s what crazy people get. And that’s just my most extreme/shocking story. I have so, so, much more. The modern lobotomy exists. But saying it’s trans healthcare is absolutely wild.

I’m partially glad transphobic detransitioners make claims like this. Because it keeps me away from their movement despite me being the sort of person they aim to recruit. I will never give the time of day to people who dismiss my trauma like this. It is so fucking evil to survivors of this sort of thing, and doubley so to trans, nonbinary, and detrans survivors of psychiatric abuse.

This is transsanism

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if you get tagged by an account whose name is only numbers, claiming to be the tumblr team telling you you need to verify your account, DO. NOT. ENTERTAIN. IT.

Report it for impersonation or spam.

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Using the PMDD of trans people who have uteruses as a way to invalidate their gender identity.

“You don’t feel discomfort around your periods because you’re not a binary woman, that’s silly. You are one. You just have a mood disorder connected to your periods.”

It’s such a weird and gross take on that specific mood disorder.

This is transsanism

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I'd say this is more of 'a result of transsaneism.'

But I suspect myself of having numerous disorders (primarily AuDHD and some form of anxiety). My parents currently do NOT believe even the possibility of me being disordered. But they're also very queerphobic.

I already feel like I won't ever get to transition (for numerous, unrelated reasons), but I also feel like if I were to get diagnosed like I want, that they'd weaponise it against me.

Like, they'd try to take away my autonomy and choice because it would just be the "Occult lgbtqrsti taking advantage of my weak, disabled mind to get me to mutilate yourself =(" And it sucks extra because it makes me feel like I'm going to have to choose between a diagnosis or transition (that likely won't happen anyway).

@saddened-starseed

This is transsanism.

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Idk if this blog is still active but: transsanism is knowing you'll likely have to choose between getting a diagnosis for your mental conditions so you can receive proper help, and getting to transition medically so you can actually feel comfortable in your skin.

(The UK is such a saneist and transphobic place atm and I'm scared of it getting worse. Get me off this island.)

If it makes you feel better, Scotland just elected two openly queer officials, so at least safety isn't too far

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The bill in Congress to ban X gender markers on passports is literally called the “Passport Sanity Act”.

So much exorsexism is saneism and it’s literally everywhere you look.

this is transsanism.

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being called transphobic for using xenos when host is LITERALLY transmasc and then they tell me im a presecutor for being xenogender…

huh?? :(

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i don’t fully know how to categorize this- i think it’s a lovely blend of ableism and sanism.

i have professionally diagnosed AuDHD, EUPD, CPTSD and pretty severe anxiety issues, i guess you could call it self diagnosed OCD for simplicity but it’s not a good idea to get it professionally diagnosed rn since i have a lot of physical health issues as well, and i’m worried an OCD dx would make figuring that out more difficult.

i recently needed a pretty big surgery for one of my physical health concerns. the anesthesia ALONE was a literal 9-5, a full work day. the recovery was even worse. i suffered complications that were traumatizing and worsened my suspected OCD even more.

this all led to a massive fight with my former best friend, because it (uses it/its prns) was upset with me for having visitors in the hospital for emotional and physical support instead of texting it back quicker. i sincerely attempted to deescalate the situation by letting it know a lot of shit had happened and i was (and still very much am) a wreck, and couldnt talk about it more than that, but still apologized for hurting its feelings. the whole situation got very ugly.

the takeaway was that i’m an asshole for triggering an episode by putting my foot down, but it is absolutely not the asshole for demanding such intimate details about my health even after i repeatedly said no and set a firm boundary about it.

and i don’t know.. it feels really weird that despite that this whole thing started because i got extremely sick and that hurt my now former friend’s feelings, it’s apparenrly the only one who’s health deserves consideration, and it’s absolved from all accountability because of its health.

i’m in my early 20s and i found out i most likely have multiple sclerosis. if i do have MS i’ve been sick for years which has gone undiscovered because no one. fucking. believed. me.

be honest, did i have to directly say that or was ”something bad has happened and i’m not ready to talk about it yet, please give me time and stop interrogating me” enough? deeming my physical and mental health to be less worthy of consideration is ableist and sanist in my book but idk

this is saneism and ableism, and your friend was being quite rude by insisting you give it information that you've repeatedly said you won't disclose

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"you're just using your depression as an excuse to mutilate yourself"

transsanism

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People love to treat OCD as something cute until my compulsions cause self-harm and mental breakdowns and affect everything from something as small as how much sleep I get to my gender identity and how I can't feel fully trans but I know I'm not fully cis. Blonde boything torment nexus.

"I'm so ocd 🤪" I have to triple check everything I post because I'm afraid of getting in trouble for saying something wrong 👍 torture nexus indeed

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“Why would you use they/them, you’re not multiple people!”

I wish biting was an acceptable response

I just smile at them and say "yes I am :)" and if they don't get it then that's their loss

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I’m not sure if this is “transsaneism” exactly, but I do think it falls under the intersection of gender identities and mental illness. I’m not sure what stance I personally take on this, but I need to get it out of my head. It regards some of the xenogenders on the LGBTQ wiki. I’m going to discuss some triggering stuff, so fair warning.

The wiki sorts a gender “based on/affected by self-harm” into its page on “harmful identities” that it says shouldn’t be used. I believe because they think that saying that your gender is linked to that would stop you from quitting/getting better. However, they have a page dedicated to a gender based on anorexia, which they treat as a legitimate good faith identity. The double standard feels bizarre. Like, starving yourself is also a form of self-harm? Do you… do you not see anorexia as that bad? Is that it? Is that why you think it’s okay for genders to be based on it? Because if your argument for letting it be a gender is that saying something affects your gender doesn’t automatically mean you’re romanticizing it or that you’re anti-recovery for it, then you have no reason not to extend the same treatment to a gender related to sh.

I don’t identify with either specific gender, but I am a xenic person who struggles with sh. And I feel like this is a case of “self-harm is scary and gross and should never be discussed, while eating disorders aren’t *really* that bad and it’s okay to laugh about them and not take them that seriously” expressed in the form of categorizing gender. Which is really really disgusting.

I don’t really have that much of a position on whether both genders should have a page or whether both should be removed. I mean, if you forced me to choose I would like pages for both xenogenders (since real people do identify with both terms), just with a disclaimer that they shouldn’t be used to romanticize what they’re based on. But mostly I just don’t like the double standard. It just doesn’t make any sense to me.

Sorry, I had to get this out of my head.

I completely agree. There's a lot of labels that are widely used that just seem harmful yet aren't regarded as such, and i can't imagine why. (Did you know terfs have a gender flag? It looks pretty much the same to the genderqueer flag, which is a shame because i identify as queergender and I don't want to use the terf flag by accident.) Though i can't bring up any examples off the top of my head, I've seen plenty of xenogenders related to being mentally ill, and while it's great that people are being more open about their illness and especially if it's unable to be cured such as autism or personality disorders, it does seem strange to attach having suicidal fantasies for example to one's gender. Like you said, if their argument for not including self-harm identities in the good faith section is that it encourages getting worse, then why wouldn't the same go for the anorexia gender? I'm not sure what stance I take on this, either, but I'd tread with caution around people who make their self harm a part of their identity. Even if it's not harmful to others, I can't imagine somebody so attached to their hurtful thoughts and actions would be a great person to be friends with.

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I think this is transsanism.

The refrain from people trying to invalidate neurogenders that “these are serious conditions that people suffer from having, anyone who thinks they can be made into a “gender” clearly has no idea how bad they really are and just sees it as another aesthetic to play with”.

I was abused (I still sometimes struggle to call it that because I don’t know really, but I’m going to try to in this ask) specifically and pointedly for my neurodivergence/Madness. And I was being told that identifying with the gender I felt most correct with made it so my trauma didn’t count. During a time in my life when I was still being actively traumatized. I ended up burying my feelings that this was a gender that I felt most correct with because I was scared that no one would believe anything that happened to me if that was my gender. Because “the only way you could make [insert condition] into a gender is if you never actually suffered due to having it”.

I’m honestly tempted to start this-is-anti-neurogender or something.

That sort of rhetoric is absolutely transsanism and I want you to know that your experiences are completely valid and we support you

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doctors try to treat my transness as a mental illness that needs to be cured because I have bipolar disorder and they see it as a symptom.

this is transsanism.