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ellie acting recklessly and being a brat as some say, stems from two things.
first; joel keeps having a final say over decisions regarding ellie, despite the fact that she is an adult and they are not exactly on speaking terms. joel repeteadly does not respect ellie’s wishes. ellie can’t train probably, ellie can’t go on patrol because what would joel say. she’s fed up with the fact that she could set the goddamn settlement on fire and no one would say shit because she’s joel’s kid.
joel and ellie fall out because he decided to make a decision for her. and he continues to do so, despite knowing that ellie disagrees with that. jesse, tommy and even dina know that at the end of the day, it’s what joel says and not ellie. she is fed up with not being taken seriously, so she rebells, hence the supermarket store. her recklesness costs her a bite.
the city council does nothing - maria senses that ellie is telling the truth and they are off the hook, left to apologise to kat and that’s all. nonetheless that ellie and dina could have put the whole group at danger, had there been more runners. you see it in her demeanor, when she walks off.
second; ellie lost a purpose. for the entire roadtrip across the states, ellie sees people around her die and she is left hopeless — the guilt holds tighter around her neck; she needs her immunity to mean something. people had died on the way to get her to fireflies and she needs herself to believe, they didn’t die for nothing. riley, sam, tess. kind of like all those firefly soldiers that killed themselves after joel rampaged the hospital. all the deaths, the time, the pain, was for nothing.
ellie hangs onto her immunity; she’s too deep in her survivor’s guilt to see clearly. she needs their deaths to not be left in vain. and joel not only robs her of that - he continues to lie to her for several years. ellie’s entire world falls apart. she’s reckless because she has nothing left to lose, anymore. the one thing, the one thing that could have, in her mind, fixed it all, was gone. and there is joel, who, after what he had done, continues to have a say over matters in her life.
THE LAST OF US
S02E01: Future Days | dir. Craig Mazin
I think I've seen this film before...
And I didn't like the ending...
i love the weird therapist. unconventional methods, but she’s so right, joel needs to get out of his own way. and she very smartly gives that advice to him in a way he can understand by using her grief and pain over her dead husband as the conduit. she kind of has similar beef with joel as ellie. he did what he had to do with eugene (i think we’re supposed to assume he was bitten and however joel dealt with it was a little cold), but that still doesn’t mean he gets to escape other people’s reactions to what he did. gail’s husband is dead, and joel’s on her couch calling himself a good guy. it’s a bit much, you know? and for ellie, it’s so similar. joel made a big decision about her life without her AND LIED about it, and yet he’s going around telling everyone he doesn’t know why she’s mad at him and he’s the one trying and she’s being a teenager. she’s not, she’s pretty reasonably upset with him. remember, he lied
so yeah tldr as an enjoyer of old men with deep flaws, i liked the portrayal of joel and ellie’s estrangement as partly joel’s fault and i had fun with the show beating up on him a little in response to his stubbornness and refusal to admit culpability. however i must admit am not really looking forward to him getting physically beat up on and everything else that goes along with that lmao
oh also “dina asked me today, ‘what’s wrong with her?’” he’s misrepresenting what dina asked him. isn’t that interesting? i think that’s interesting
i love the weird therapist. unconventional methods, but she’s so right, joel needs to get out of his own way. and she very smartly gives that advice to him in a way he can understand by using her grief and pain over her dead husband as the conduit. she kind of has similar beef with joel as ellie. he did what he had to do with eugene (i think we’re supposed to assume he was bitten and however joel dealt with it was a little cold), but that still doesn’t mean he gets to escape other people’s reactions to what he did. gail’s husband is dead, and joel’s on her couch calling himself a good guy. it’s a bit much, you know? and for ellie, it’s so similar. joel made a big decision about her life without her AND LIED about it, and yet he’s going around telling everyone he doesn’t know why she’s mad at him and he’s the one trying and she’s being a teenager. she’s not, she’s pretty reasonably upset with him. remember, he lied
so yeah tldr as an enjoyer of old men with deep flaws, i liked the portrayal of joel and ellie’s estrangement as partly joel’s fault and i had fun with the show beating up on him a little in response to his stubbornness and refusal to admit culpability. however i must admit am not really looking forward to him getting physically beat up on and everything else that goes along with that lmao
God violence just simmers under everything in this town doesn’t it. Don’t pull punches. The bullet goes into the infected’s knee instead of its head. If your lifeboat’s full then yes you stop letting people in. Say what you’re afraid to say out loud. BUT ALSO Your nephew rushes into your arms without fear. And your therapist flinches when you stand up.
ok so. s3 of the mandalorian sucked, rise of skywalker sucked, ahsoka sucked, book of boba fett sucked, obi-wan sucked, the acolyte had its weaknesses but at least was something creative and interesting and visually engaging and not the most obvious and lazy thing 100% of the time but it got canceled……..so basically i’m fearing for my life with the new season of andor on its way
The Choice
Both times Gustavo Santaolalla’s theme “The Choice” is heard throughout the season.
Joel & Ellie
I'm glad that didn't work out. Me too.
some tlou fic writers are like “joel voted for bush” based on, i assume, that stuff he said to ellie about american politics and the sticker on tommy’s truck and the texas of it all and i’m like. oh you think joel voted?
joel and ellie in every episode: 1x03
forever contemplating “may i ask… do you really remember me?”
the “you need to stop talking about this kid like she’s got some kind of life in front of her” to hospital massacre pipeline
it is literally so fucking funny to me how in ep6 joel is in a place where he is so resistant to the idea that he’s in any way a parent/guardian type of figure in ellie’s life now that he refuses to admit it even to himself in private and YET he still can’t turn off the “i raised you better than that” impulse when he starts getting even the slightest amount of judgment from maria. even though he fully did not like a) he’s been with her for under a year and b) not once has he batted an eye at her swearing or being rude or confrontational, he clearly doesn’t really care. but the second someone gives him side eye about his ability to take care of her he goes into full damage control mode. mind your manners, do as i say not as i do, no i will not let my brother teach you how to snipe infected, don’t joke about how we’ve been roughing it for the past 3 months it makes me look bad and hurts my feelings
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