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Hi! I've a question about the origin of Valarr Targaryen's name, or the etymology of "valar morghulis" (whichever was created first). Is it a coincidence that Valarr's name is so similar to the valyrian word? Perhaps since he (and his father) were such exceptional and honorable men, George chose "all men" or maybe "man" as the Young Prince's name. Was this something you had to take into account while creating High Valyrian? Thank u for your time :)
I don't expect that it is a coincidence. George R. R. Martin frequently plays with lexical drift in the various languages in his books. Now, the languages don't exist in his work (i.e. he didn't create full languages), but he understood that languages were related (i.e. they came in families), and that slight changes were introduced into languages as they changed over the years—especially as evidenced by names (cf. Stark and Karstark). I think (and this is pure speculation; I haven't asked him about it) that the spelling Valarr is supposed to be evidence of the Westerosification of the Targaryen line. Valar doesn't really make sense as a name, and it certainly wouldn't be spelled Valarr. But perhaps if Valryian speakers spent centuries in a place where Valyrian isn't spoken anywhere except by them they might not realize that. That's my take on it, anyway.
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in the episode it sounds like aemond is saying yne enkagon jemēla or something similar before he says taoba which i think is what anon is referring to
i noticed a while back that what he said didn’t match the line you posted and guessed that the change was deliberate but who knows
Okay, I just pulled up the clip and listened to it, and yeah, it sounds like he says something like Yne nenkogon jemēla, which is not really anything. It was clearly just a scene where a lot was going on and he didn't quite remember the line right. Of course, if it was wrong to begin with, it doesn't really matter.
Also, I would note that given the weather conditions, it's rather unbelievable that they would be able to hear each other at all, so really, the dialogue there is just for our benefit. If it were realistic, it'd be more like the end of Lost in Translation, where you can turn it up and get real close to the TV, but you're not hearing what's said; just that something is being said.
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OP asker about Aemond’s grasp of High Valyrian.
The post in question <https://www.tumblr.com/twinpeaksfireblogwithme/709747767312023552/aemond-fully-doesnt-know-valyrian-at-all-lmao>
Thank you for clearing this up. As I mentioned in my previous ask while it would be chuckle worthy that Aemond has a mediocre level of Valyrian; it would literally make 0 sense given what we’re told about his character (studious), interests (history, philosophy, and the blade like a fedora tipping mall ninja), and the status of HV in the World of Ice and Fire as a Latin analogue that anyone with enough status or wealth would be able to learn (Tyrion mentions having tutors in GOT). More to that the fact that as a Targaryen it would be his mother tongue (Daenerys says as much in S3 GOT) we’ll just have to put this kerfuffle down to an dialogue goof on the part of the actor. Clearly from your original notes it is supposed to be grammatically correct.
Thank you muchly for your input sir.
The taobus > taoba thing is absolutely an actor error, but the other one is, unfortunately, my error. That should have been gēlȳsso. Fack. Unbelievable. I think the note in the dictionary confused me. It could be fixed by putting an i- in front of the verb. That is, from...
Jemēla gēlȳni enkā!
...to...
Jemēla gēlȳni ienkā!
And given that it's the same vowel on either side, you could kind of just say it's there, and no one would be able to tell the difference.
Now, unfortunately, there are two other errors here—one my fault, one not.
There's a mismatch between jemēla and enkā. The former is plural; the latter singular. Honestly, I'm shocked the folks over at the Valyrian Discord missed this... No idea why the mismatch is there. It should either be aōla or enkāt. As for using the second person plural at all, I didn't know whose line this was. I think this was a request over email and they didn't say what it was going to be used for. I had to guess. I also hadn't seen the script. I didn't know who was talking to whom, or how many each of them were. That's how that goes sometimes.
But, yeah... What a gloriously butchered line. Yikes.