Violet Dreams

[kylo-is-sad]

[gamebird]

This one’s exceptionally funny! Or at least it is to me.

[alexiela]

The only explanation you’ll ever need!

[galacticidiots]

If you wanna be real mad, im_organa on Twitter has a thread about how they reused footage for the last shot on Rey on tatooine. This movie is a mess.

Thread

Huge “fuck it, our audience is all a bunch of morons anyway” energy

[mehmegmeh]

The ending of the fucking trilogy and Star Wars is a fucking edit… l… have no words at this point.

[hope-lives-in-the-galaxy]

😠😠😠😠😠😠😠

[theaberrantwritergirl]

YUP. Creative integrity doesn’t mean anything to Disney I suppose because apparently they don’t think the audience is intelligent enough to notice. 🙃

[gamebird]

I wonder if it meant they didn’t have time or actor cooperation to do reshoots. Keep in mind Daisy went into the premiere telling people the last shot was emotional, was with Adam and Naomi, probably involved a kiss, and was a happy ending. She had no idea they were going to ditch Rey alone on a desert planet.

Ben had no dialogue for the last third of the movie. Lots of editing was choppy and had irregularities. They were either too pressed for time to bring back the actors, or it may be the actors flat refused. I can imagine a situation where Adam was asked to come back in and do voice work for the revised ending. He sees the script. He realizes how fucked up this is. He carefully rereads his contract with Disney, including the provisions his agent has built in that previously accepted film work for other studios can’t be interrupted by Disney’s requests and that Disney must provide a ‘reasonable’ amount of time for him to accommodate them into his shooting schedule.

‘Oh, oops, I had other stuff already scheduled. I can’t do it.’ and they’re like, ‘We can record you over the phone! This morning!’ and he’s like, ‘No. My contract says I need a reasonable warning. I might have some time next week. I need to protect my voice for the shots I’ll have Thursday. Bye!’

Because he’s walked out of interviews. He doesn’t have a problem with asserting his boundaries, or protecting the character.

[roxannepolice]

Yeah, it just crossed my mind that now we probably know why DR cried…

[bl0wthatpieceofjunkoutofthesky]

I’m all for the “Ben Solo deserves better” Twitter thing (and EVERYONE deserved better for that matter, they were all done dirty by that turd of a movie!) and I’m taking part to it, but I also know that Adam, Daisy, Oscar etc all have enough self respect not to put up with any crap, and tbh as much as I’m livid that DLF flushed 40 years of SW down the drain, I’m not sure I’d be happy for them to come back to it, even if it were to fix the mess…don’t know, we’ll have to wait and see. I definitely did not expect I’d be in this situation when I saw TFA exactly 4 years ago, that’s for sure 😞

[kylo-renakin]

In The Last Jedi, writer/director Rian Johnson asks the question “what if anyone could be a Jedi”? And I think we’re not giving enough credit to JJ Abrams, writer/director of The Rise of Skywalker, for asking the logical next question “what if anyone could write and direct a Star Wars movie?”

[bl0wthatpieceofjunkoutofthesky]

Lololol 

[brittany]

Carrie Fisher behind the scenes of Star Wars: The Last Jedi

[helloostarlight]

Guys I love Carrie

[creating-tabs]

Every Jedi faces the dark side. And it’s very easy to fail.

[violet-is-maybe]

Why do some people apparently always have choices and not others?

[lueminous]

The fact that what truly happened on the night at the jedi temple is relegated to supplementary material and that the movie will always have Luke's unreliable version as the most well known explanation makes me so fucking angry

[lueminous]

What happened that he didn't kill anyone that night and that he wasn't the one to set fire to the temple. He was deadass innocent all along. I hate everything

[oldadastra]

@i-am-thesenate , wait - are you making dark humor right now, or is this actually part of the supplemental materials? This is important. 😨😨😨

[sidewalksurfergirl]

@oldadastra it’s in The Rise of Kylo Ren comic that came out a few days ago. Canon confirmation that Ben didn’t kill his fellow students or destroy the temple, but knew that no one would believe him so ran to Snoke instead Leia. Heartbreaking, vitally important and completely buried by virtue of the comic being released on the same day as / the day before the movie.

[lueminous]

The rise of skywalker only manages to make every fucking skywalker but ben look retroactively worse

[emperorren]

Including Rey Skywalker

[illumiera]

me: okay, it’s been twelve days since I saw the movie, I’m fine

me, ten seconds later: but Ben Solo was so full of light and goodness that it took him twenty-three years of constant manipulation to fall and he hated it the entire time, he was always Ben, and he went running armed with only a blaster to save his beloved and rose from an abyss with no help from his ancestors purely to help her, and he didn’t even hesitate before he gave her his life, and he used his last seconds to just look at her, content with the knowledge that she’ll live on, and when she kissed him, it set him free; he finally grinned for what must have been the first time in years–

narrator: she was not fine

[christophernolan]

The downfall of Star Wars rests with producers at Disney who somehow convinced themselves (and us) that a blockbuster trilogy didn’t need the presence of any kind of overarching narrative architect to ensure at least a modicum of tonal or philosophical consistency. It was an act of pure hubris—a supremely corporate, unearned sense of confidence that IP and branding mattered far more than a carefully planned story. In the end, “trilogy” isn’t even the right word, because it implies the existence of three films that fit together in a planned, form-fitting way, as three chapters of a single story. These films? They aren’t a trilogy. They’re more like direct rebukes of each other.

- JIM VOREL

[reyloicle]

Well... that’s a mood.

[the-reylo-void]

As it stands, though, it looks like the major difference between Ben and Rey was that Ben was found by Palpatine as a child and was manipulated by his voice, and Rey wasn’t found by Palpatine because she got a childhood from hell To Build Character or whatever. Which is such a messed up message, because the movie is basically saying that if you’ve been abused, your family can and will replace you with someone who wasn’t abused in that way, and that your parents’ cruelty always has good reason

Well, and they take away Rey’s chance to be angry at what was done to her in favor of casting her as the pure heroine. She’s not mad at her parents for failing her — they tried their best and she’s happy that they “protected” her! She’s not struggling with rage and abandonment issues; it’s just the Palpatine influence in her, and that’s easily overcome because she’s so good and pure of heart. 

Ben is much messier, so we’re just going to put him over there and not really deal with that. Shame that he was too far gone, or something. 

Some of the earliest discourse and meta in Reylo was with the whole Good Survivor vs. Bad Survivor dichotomy, and TROS hammered that home in some pretty appalling ways. The story gives up on Ben Solo and tells us that there really isn’t a way home and undermines Rey’s past hurt and anger in favor of an “all better now” Band-Aid in the form of her parents’ good intentions. It’s just… so badly done, and I’m sorry for the survivors who were failed by that execution. Rey and Ben included.

[the-red-plom-bloom-deactivated2]

I don't come from an abusive home, but I felt sorry for Ben and all I wanted was for him to live a happy life and for his family's sacrifices to not go in vain. I can only imagine this feels 10x worse for people who do come from abuse. You don't have to be poor to come from a broken family. Ben proves that. He could have set a great example for people with mental illness to know that their abuse does not define them. They can live happy lives and start over. It's just tough to stomach this.

I know plenty of low socioeconomic status children who have very loving and strong childhoods. There are many kinds of privileges to be had. 

[andtheywereadyad]

This begs an interesting question tho. Why do we all feel so hard for Ben Solo? What do we all have in common?

In my rawest moments of grief over this, I told my boyfriend that this ending scared me because even though I don’t come from an abusive background, I’ve always felt that there is something “wrong” with me, like I was born with guilt of just being. I’m still trying to understand the why of that, but one part of me saw myself in Ben, and maybe so many of us feel rotten inside, guilty, and we can’t really grasp why. Then we see Ben, who has these same feelings, and he fought them, winning at the end! What a great message!! This means that we can beat this shit too! No wait, he’s dead. And nobody cared. The broken child died and nobody will ever know that he did all that he could to preserve the light within himself.

And this comes from a grown-ass woman. Imagine queer kids, mentally-ill kids, minorities, etc. We all bonded over Ben because he was a mirror of our inner child who was so scared of disappointing everybody….

[the-red-plom-bloom-deactivated2]

who never felt accepted for who he is and wore a mask to protect himself.

[raven-star7]

My parents weren’t abusive, but I see so much of Han and Leia in them. They’re similar in age to Carrie and Harrison, and I’m a year younger than Adam. They were the attractive charismatic parents that everyone looked up to, and I could never live up to that. They weren’t emotionally available to me, and were very traditoonal and didn’t understand that kids can have anxiety or depression. I didn’t get help until I was 21 years old. I was a different religion than they were and they were very devout Christian. I was always made to feel as though I was inherently ‘bad" for not liking to go to church and being drawn to dark things like 'goth’ aesthetic and witchcraft. My Mom basically told me I was dark and of the devil. I self-harmed all through High School and basically felt as if I was being shut out more and more by my family. I spiraled out of control and then my Dad died when I was 19.

I think anyone can relate to Ben Solo from all walks of life. In Adam’s first interviews after getting cast as Kylo I remember him saying how much he related with the character and why. He talked about his own relationship with his family and I immediately understood what he was talking about.

So many men and young boys seem themselves in a vulnerable and emotional man who has been abused and manipulated to suck it up and repressed his enotions. To live up to the legacy of his manhood represented by Vader. It breaks my heart that they are being effected negatively by Ben’s death.

I’ve literally felt a very physical pang of loss since seeing tros, and I think its because I related so much to him and his struggle for peace, and love, and self-acceptance. I can’t even imagine what fans of his who have been abused, or emotionally manipulated, or taken advantage of are feeling right now. I’m just glad we’re able to vent and express our feelings together.

[frumfrumfroo]

It is ironically fitting that the last character to challenge people and make them think about concepts like unconditional forgiveness and compassion for wrongdoers, the character who performed the last real thematically-appropriate action onscreen in a SW movie, dies in TROS. The death of Ben Solo is emblematic of everything SW used to be dying with him, as overwrought as that is to say. The film kills him unceremoniously and ignores he ever existed, just like it did with all of SW’s messaging.

He’s the last Skywalker in every possible sense, the last gasp of the myth. He was side-lined, paid the barest lip service, and finally thrown away to prop up some bullshit, and it’s a perfect fucking metaphor.

[raven-star7]

I honestly believe this is why we’re taking his death so hard. Ben WAS Star Wars. The good the bad and the redeemed. He was all those messages rolled into one. His whole character was meant to represent those thousands of generations living within him. I He definitely represen The Last Skywalker, but even that is taken from him and posthumously handed over to Rey. It all ends as his grandma Padme famously said:

[oldadastra]

It has a strange feeling of completion, thinking about this way; like glimpsing a larger tragedy that binds and surrounds us, beyond the saga of the doomed Skywalkers. Star Wars is going down a path I don’t want to follow. I will stay with Ben.

[kaiserghidorah]

That Chris Terrio interview.... how the hell do you hire a guy who so fundamentally does not get Star Wars? I mean, it wasn’t like there wasn’t any massive warning signs that he’s a talentless, film series destroying hack (cough Batman V Superman) before, right?

And I’ll say it, Kathy Kennedy deserves some stick for this. I know everyone will solely blame JJ, and he deserves more than his fair share, but Kathy crosses the t’s and dots the i’s. The buck stops with her, and frankly her talent recruitment, for the movies at least, has been exceptionally patchy.

[official-reylo]

The depressing reality (especially as someone studying to become a screenwriter) is that Chris Terrio was specifically hired because of Batman Vs Superman. BVS may have been absolute garbage, but it made buckets of money and no matter how much Disney, Lucasfilm, or any of the corporate executives tell us how much they care about delivering a satisfying and good story, it's not true. Micheal Eisner, former Disney CEO and mentor to current Disney CEO Bob Iger, stated “We have no obligation to make history. We have no obligation to make art. We have no obligation to make a statement. To make money is our only objective.” This was true in 1981 and it's true now. Of course, it's lost on executives that making a good story will make you more money because people will actually, you know, like it. But when Disney produces 80% of the media that we consume I guess it doesn't really matter because we don't have a choice.

[iameverysparklywoman]

no offence but if we must wear makeup can we all just shave our eyebrows off and draw little lines over them and wear so much blush we just have little pink circles on our cheeks…i’d support that actually

[iameverysparklywoman]

as someone who has done this it is genuinely a million times easier to just draw a little line on your eyebrows than to use 30 products to try and fill in and define them. i think we should do that and have a little red lip and hearts on our cheeks and look like grotesque little mimes. if we must do anything 

[iameverysparklywoman]

if makeup is “liberating” and “an art form” and “not about looking attractive” then why do we not all look like this 

[missbliss12]

Canon TLJ Leia fights TRoS Leia. 

A petty little comic in response to Chris terrio’s comments about the Skywalkers and Ben’s redemption