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In some respects, I've swapped the roles that Adrien and Felix/Feligami occupy with regard to their obedience towards their parents, so this makes sense. Adrien is no longer content to be controlled because he's sick of the abuse, and Felix is perfectly alright with maltreatment and outright refuses to acknowledge it as such so long as his obedience proves his own superiority. Despite this, Felix is still enough of a conniving little shit that he's enjoyable to just about anyone who liked Felix as an antagonist.
It's not very constructive of me to suggest you're putting more thought into it than the writers have, is it? I digress.
I think this is one of those things we won't know for sure until we get more information on The Kingdom. I'm of the mind that while it makes sense for the Diamond Dance to be connected with the freaky Eyes Wide Shut Party to be connected with The Kingdom, we are simply making assumptions and canon has repeatedly proven that a good explanation does not always mean a canonical one. (Ex: Chat Blanc and Ladybug's secretive behavior as of Season 4)
It could very well be the case that he and Amelie are irrelevant as connections to The Kingdom. Our leads might only be the Tsurugis, the Bourgeoises, and Nathalie. Wouldn't surprise me any.
Possibly! He is canonically adept in karate and kung-fu, so we can assume he's at least athletically disciplined. I'm sure Felix would have a fair bit of complexes surrounding being a living weapon for his dad and/or his dad's Lockheed Martin style company.
⬆️ Presented without comment, there's not much I can really contribute here lol. Thank you, Uppercase Felix Anon.
Re: Adrien/Sentiwin Narrative Forcefem (Man, that's a delight to say. What a wonderfully bizarre way to word it)... I think the conceit of Adrien getting reflexively macho is a cute image, but it would come off a bit too agitprop if the exploration of gender roles didn't also interrogate why masculinity can be toxic, no? I think I can safely assume we're not a bunch of MGTOWs who would pitch a fit if patriarchal masculinity was presented as a bit more complex than grilling steaks and drinking a beer.
It's not really Adrien being feminine that's the issue here. It's that Miraculous Ladybug is dogshit when it comes to deconstructing gender as it relates to fantasy/fairytales and this detracts from its alleged feminist messaging.
I also want to admit that I transfem Adrien headcanons are a lot more plausibly canon than transmasc ones (A. not that plausibility is the end-all-be-all for headcanons B. but you people need to fucking CUT IT OUT with calling every twinky white cartoon boy "so gender they could be MTF or FTM and it works either way" because you never say that about anyone else), and I've heard some pretty good arguments for why it would make sense textually and would hypothetically be a great avenue for the show to take if it was written better. Transmasc headcanons unfortunately only operate best when observing the show from a metatextual level, as seen above.
Y'know? I think we can give it to them this time around, anon. I think these "reversed" parallels are intentional. You can endlessly compare all four of them.
For example ⬆️
GAH! Yet another thing they established for momentary plot convienence and did nothing with. He'd be such a good man in the chair, if not the action hero himself, if not... Well, it'd be pretty hard to be both. You have to wonder if it's all a shitty, complicated James Bond reference.
I think a lot of people shy away from his debut because it's so hard to rationalize his behavior, but this is a pretty decent way to go about it, anon! Thanks.
I'm inclined to agree on the latter suggestion that Colt is meant to be a caricature. At the very least, the show does an awful job with the abusive fathers it has the balls to flesh out, so maybe Colt is better off staying that way.
Obligatory plug for myladynoire's What Makes A Monster if anyone wants an actually measured character study on Colt Fathom that doesn't excuse his actions, either. I love the myladynoireverse. Maybe I should write fic for it.
I forget if this was in reference to anarchist Felix or—god forbid—feminist Felix. I'm inclined to believe it's the former, since I personally think given what we know of the Tsurugis now that Kagami is more inclined to have grown up a feminist than Felix.
The Kagami we have now definitely gives off the vibes of thinking that the coolest thing you can be is politically informed. Not in the same way Mylene is, at least. A bit more "firebomb a Walmart" than "fight the power with a vegetable garden".
I really can't say I agree with this interpretation of Representation. As I've mentioned before and later elaborated on, the play in Representation is meant to be assumed as cold hard fact because it is primarily exposition to us as an audience rather than exposition for Marinette. I also want to refuse to believe that Felix would be the kind of person to selectively inform Marinette of their family lore so that it lines up, not with his assessment of events, but... Adrien's (and how would he have verified this beforehand? How can he assume he knows exactly what Adrien feels about everything?), but if your counter is to say he's perfectly fine with lying to people about life-altering information as of s6, I yield.
I think Gabriel was genuinely meant to be interpreted as sympathetic even if he was not necessarily redeemed. He was a tragic man making bad choices the same way Marinette is now a tragic girl making bad choices as of s6—Hence their obnoxiously on-the-nose parallels.
Perhaps, but I also wouldn't say there's any implication that Colt interacted with the Bourgeoises at all.
Were people saying this? I'd be surprised. I do think the Feligami we have now is significantly different from the characters we once had, sure, but I'm just not involved enough in Feligami circles to have ever heard that talking point.
Granted. I think a significant portion of Feligami shippers on Tumblr have me blocked.
Sorry about Lady Chaos, anon. I imagined you were a bit crushed by all of its... everything.
If only, anon. If only. I wish I could offer some of my own writing as a remedy, but none of my stuff with the sentitwins really works with that conceit.
SO YOU'RE THE REASON EVERYTHING WE THOUGHT WE KNEW ABOUT LILA GOT EVISCERATED WITH THE DAUGHTER REVEAL! YOU FOOL! YOU'VE LET HISTORY REPEAT ITSELF! YOU'VE DOOMED US ALL!
Just as Adrien is never written with the intention that he wants to figure out Chrysalis' identity, I do not think Chrysalis gives a shit or will everrrr give a shit about Chat Noir. Secret Procotol would have introduced a decent inciting moment for Chrysalis to suspect Adrien is Chat Noir (since he went rogue to *retch* go possessive *bluegh* tiktok bad boy to *choke* protecc his girlf- *urk* *blech*), and yet we got nothing.
Felix not being entirely complicit in The Lie but also not getting any focus on what his personal stance is on lying to Adrien or the world gives me all the confidence in the world to say him moving to Paris does not matter, and he is extremely unlikely to be Adrien's confidant. No more canon cousin-switching for us, anon. Womp womp. I recently used it in a fic, though, if that ameliorates things.
I do not think she would be happy! She would try to kick my ass, in fact, and she would succeed because I only weigh 52kg and need a cane to walk
I don't think he would be very convinced, but I think Hawkmoth's musical number would be absurd enough that it would get a laugh out of him. Imagine someone makes Springtime for Hitler but it's about your horrifically evil + physically abusive + exploitative dad.
Similar notion (I assume this is from the same anon): He refuses to believe it. I think Tweosdrien internalizes his suffering as crucial to his identity a little too much to get sentimental over a dad he did not actually have. At best, he's resentful in a jealous sort of way and at worst he just rationalizes that the abuse is still there and just better-hidden. Also, frankly, it doesn't fucking matter to him if some other Gabriel was nice! That Gabriel wasn't the Gabriel he got.
On that note, anon, if this exercise personally brings you comfort I won't take that away from you, but I think imagining a world in which you must be the "bad one" if your abusive family member is good is not conducive to healing. There's no excuse for abusive behavior, and you are who you are and that's okay.
That's fucked up, man. Nobody should blow smoke on anyone's marinette. It's not very nice, she doesn't really like it.
He does seem to be the character people project onto the most in this fandom! There's a few pretty big reasons why that occurs, I think, ranging the gamut from abuse victims relating to his circumstances to his character traits being a mish-mash of plot convenient trivia to him being a skinny white guy.
(Referenced post here) Thank you!! I would imagine without the extreme stressors of being Ladybug, she might still need some behavioral therapy to work out how to express her negative emotions in healthier ways, but besides that anything that once manifested as "violence" is what instead propels her to be headstrong and confident. She's always been very determined.
Yeah, I'm not touching this one.
No.
Thank you!! I've gotten some very odd flack recently (as some followers might remember) for making work that many people mistake as salt-adjacent, and I feel like that's an unfair assessment of my work. TWEoS and everything it's inspired does not function as well as it does without canon—and I do mean canon, ALL of canon—to back it up. In fact, some of what I try to satirize has only become more prescient as of Season 6. We limit ourselves as fans of the work that so enthralls us if we do not both analyze it critically and then try, in earnest, to meet it where it's at.
Frankly, if Miraculous were a better show I would probably not be here. Many of us might not be. That should be very humbling.
What was that? Must've been the wind.
Nope! Cynic is Claudia's only coyote alias. I don't think it would be constructive to the story of TWEoS for her to have a Miracle Team identity, and while it would be fun to see her clash with Lucky Lucky Ladybug (because that is inevitable) it would break a pretty hard rule I have about that story, which is that Claudia cannot meaningfully interact with anyone canon besides Adrien and Plagg.
I suppose we'll just have to wait and see if you're right, anon. At least he's better off as Harry Osborn than Felicia Hardy, I've seen some really fucking uncomfortable art on twitter as of recent.
Badly.
Hah! You wish.
Thank you Hana. I miss talking with you, Hana.
I've always had a feeling that XY could be a solid canon candidate, but I think if that was canonized it would only be canonized in a gag and that would hold much less weight than a sentireveal played for drama. Chloe would also be a good candidate but I doubt that would ever be canonized.
Given what we see of her room, I'm certain that these artifacts are things she's looted, too. I think people just tend to default to the archeologist explanation because it's ever so slightly easier to explain how to contact her. I think. How would you even get hold on a professional looter...? Do they have websites...?
Huh! I mean, it makes sense given what we have now, but the fact that this Adrien seems much more keen to act than react is pretty distinctive. Maybe a forthright and decisive Adrien could've even had the chance to make choices that impact the show's larger plot. If only...
Not only do I think it could be both, but that the strongest read on this situation is that these aren't mutually exclusive! Him being controlled his entire life had led him to develop into a very codependent person.
I like the ones where they all have a bad time and are suffering. Maybe that's just a 'me' thing, though, I'm not too sure. Different strokes for different folks.
I don't think any of them would! That's way too recent of a challenge, after all. Their generation had planking, the Salt and Ice Challenge, fence plowing, etc. I haven't formally written him in much of anything but the only person I can really see engaging in that sort of behavior is Kim.
If there was ever a time for them to establish Amelie's career as a director/producer for Graham de Vanily Films, it would have been Lady Chaos!! Alas, we didn't get that, so I'm hesitant to buy in to the idea. Given Felix has also moved to Paris, I'm incredibly doubtful that they'll ever establish him as a university student unless it's to justify him not attending the new Françoise Dupont.
Cute!!!
There's apparently a very fine line between giving a male character endearing moe traits and adulating them for learned helplessness. If this fine line were instead a thick steel bar at about eye-level, 80% of the "Adrien fans" in this fandom would have chronic traumatic encephalopathy. Stay safe, y'all.
I have so many asks in my inbox (200?) that it feels almost cruel to go through them. I'm disturbing their natural habitat by releasing some into the wild. And disturbing the feng shui of my blog to boot (too many asks in a row = bad news).
Plus, some of them are just better viewing material than answering material so maybe I'll just make a gallery-style masterpost.
It goes without saying that we can assume Lila was gifted her s6 shapeshifting powers from the Supreme (which is also, most likely, the blue light she saw in the... s5 finale? London special?), but I think the funniest way for the Chrysalis story to get ruined irreparably would be for them to reveal that s6 Lila and s1-5 Lila are not the same.
This isn't the case of there being two Lilas, of course. On the contrary. See, the reason Lila can shapeshift is because s6 Lila is the Supreme. s1-5 Lila was still Tomoe's abandoned and possibly illegitimate daughter, but when she was met with that blue light the Supreme basically-but-PG-complaint-ly killed her and subsumed her identity. This would be auraful for all of 5 seconds until we all realize that this means that Lila's backstory means nothing to us and Supreme!Lila's motives are even more incomprehensible than Old!Lila's, and it would explain... absolutely nothing.
But hopefully now that I'm putting it out into the universe one of the writers will find my post and start aggressively backspacing on an open Word document.
Tch!! What a cruel thing to ask. I like every AU with Claudia in it because almost every Claudia AU is mine, and if I didn't like what I make, I wouldn't make it! Or I take down the post/fic/tweet when nobody's looking.
...If I have to pick something to talk about, though, I like the AU idea I have with Ladybug!Claudia. I rarely ever post it because I personally despise when people just replace Marinette with a different protagonist and otherwise try and keep to the show format (because so often it is misogyny if not lack of originality if not both), and thus it feels hypocritical to not hold myself to that standard especially if the replacement is an OC I ship with Adrien.
I think she'd be a very interesting pair with the Ladybug, mostly because she would do an awful job!! But I'm very Don't-Ask-Don't-Tell about it. I want to believe I'm better than that, for some reason. Maybe that's pretentious of me.
Not a ship, but how would Kim and Claudia interact.
As much as it pains me to alienate the Kim fans in the crowd... he is not a character that particularly interests me. I will use him if I specifically need a "dumb jock" archetype for a scene, but those cases are rare and he's not the right kind of stunted manchild to suit my tastes for engaging with his character. Not really much tragedy to his arrested development, if you're willing to even excuse his behavior that way.
I think Claudia interacts with Kim in much the same way she would interact with any other Really Dumb Guy: Her impenetrable gloomy aura scares the living shit out of them initially, and once she realizes she's essentially established herself as above them without even trying, she can mess with them to her heart's content.
As demonstrated, it's not in the same way that Claudia messes with Adrien, but it's similar. I also imagine this would happen with XY if she ever got the chance to meet him, elaboration in the down there part ⬇️
I feel like a fraud for suggesting Claudia might choose library science as a career path without ever officially establishing what her taste in books is. That changes today.
What do you think of the Magical Charms? You know, those anti-akuma amulets that Ladybug started handing out in season 4, but in less than 17 episodes they lost their only relevance and became just pretty jewelry.
I agree with what miraculouslbcnreactions has to say on the matter: They were set up in such a way that it would have made perfect sense to use them in the S5 Finale, yet because this show has a tendency to establish things they never follow up on, the idea went nowhere.
I'm almost inclined to say that the reason there was no finale payoff to the setup was because a moment in the finale where the ensemble cast used their Charms to purify akumas without Ladybug would take away any possible threat the Butterfly miraculous poses... And with more seasons greenlit and no other grand ideas for a new Antagonist Power, this would not do. Unlike other show-end hallmarks of the S5 finale, this one couldn't be altered to fit a longer storyline and thus it's just been scrapped and/or avoided. Miraculous has no qualms about akumatizing randoms anyways, so that's not exactly hard to do.
Generally, I think if the writers had the foresight to realize they were going to go on for 6, 7, 8... 14? seasons, the Magical Charms should not have been added in at all. I'm not opposed to the broader concept that you can expand your powerset as a holder just by using your imagination, and in instances like Revelator I think it works quite well! (Y'know. In a vacuum. Ignoring the broader context within which some upgrades like Miraculous Chat Noir are used. Fuck me, man, that sure was a choice.) But the Magical Charms were simply too effective at depowering the Butterfly in a way that cannot be introduced early-game. If the idea that Marinette can use her powers for more things is something you still want to introduce, it should be towards different ends.
My only suggestion for what the Magical Charms could instead be used for is a civillian version of the new Auto-call system set up in Season 6: The Charms allow their wearer to contact Ladybug if they're at the scene of an akumatization. I think this makes a decent amount of sense, since in many fan projects I've noticed people make up city-wide Akuma Alerts/Alarms that function to pinpoint the location of an akuma in a similar way.
I feel like a fraud for suggesting Claudia might choose library science as a career path without ever officially establishing what her taste in books is. That changes today.
I mean. If nothing else Luka is intuitive enough that he's easily one of the LEAST likely characters to accidentally refer to Felix as Adrien or mix them up. Unlike some people. Not naming names or anything
That's too bad, I think the reciprocal sentitwin complexes make for really good drama. Maybe we can think of it as "Luka is the least likely to accidentally confuse the two, which means that if he is confusing the two it's entirely on purpose and he knows what he's doing"...
Do you have any advice on phrasing when you're writing? I feel like when I write anything I'm just saying the same things over and over.
You'd be surprised at how normal that is!! A lot of writers can fall into the habit of crutch words/phrases, especially when they're really in the zone, because when you're in the zone you default to whatever your brain is most comfortable with.
I'm sure if you go through my posts, you'll find a million examples of me adding redundant adverbs (really, basically, essentially, etc...) for emphasis. It's something I don't always catch until the second or third read-through.
However! I think my main piece of advice beyond opening up a thesaurus is experimenting with how you order your clauses. The general rule of thumb is that the most important clause/detail has to be last in the sentence, but you have a lot more flexibility than you'd think in ordering things before that.
I'm just going to take a sentence I just wrote the other day as an example, since I remember the process I had when reconfiguring it. To start, let's just get down the general idea of what I wanted to say:
[Adrien shouts 'NO!' to something without really thinking] -> [Adrien clasps his hands over his mouth] -> [Room goes silent]
"NO!” Adrien shouted. He clasped his hands over his mouth in shock, and the room fell silent.
...BORING!! There's zero panache to this telling of events. I want the "NO" to have the most weight, but it has the least because it's first. So, what if I tell things out of order?
[Adrien has already clasped his hands over his mouth] -> [Because he shouted 'NO!' to something without really thinking] -> [Room goes silent]
Adrien clasped his hands over his mouth in shock at the instinctual “NO!” he’d let out. The room fell silent.
This is a lot more interesting already! Because it's "out of order", we get sidelined by the reveal of why he shut himself up the same way Adrien probably was. ...But still, maybe the room being silent isn't the final impression I want to leave the readers with. Maybe what I actually mean when I write that was that I want to emphasize he shouted it, and that he shouted it really loud.
[Adrien has already clasped his hands over his mouth] -> [Room goes silent] -> [Because he shouted 'NO!' to something without really thinking] -> [And it was really loud]
Adrien clasped his hands over his mouth in shock, the whole room deathly silent from the offended, instinctual “NO!” he’d let out and how loud it had been.
Wow. That must be super embarrassing for you, Adrien.
-You can look back up to first attempt at this line, and you'll notice it's super bare compared to what we have now. Not that "bare bones" sections don't have their merits, but that if you're including that in your work it should be because you're doing it on purpose to achieve an effect. Maybe if I wanted the reader to not be invested in Adrien's fuckup (because he's meant to be unsympathetic, or because something else is the focus, etc), the first attempt would suit that better.
Now, to apply it to your issue, anon: If you end up with two or more sentences that sound the same to you, I would recommend trying out this exercise and reconfiguring your clauses or phrases. Generally, you want to make sure no two sentences in a single paragraph end or start on the same word (unless it's purposeful repetition). You also, as I said, want to put your most important detail last in a sentence (almost like it's the "punchline" of the sentence's "joke"), but you can still rephrase the clause itself to avoid running into the of sentences ending the same.
IMO there's potential for luka to have interesting dynamics but for some reason the show never goes with that and chose to ship him off to brazil instead. i say we trap him in a room with felix and see what happens. very real possibility of them psychoanalyzing each other to death
I've seen some Feluka content here and there and I have found it intriguing, yeah! At the very least the idea of them having an ongoing psychoanalyzing battle of wits gives them a unique dynamic.
I put it in the down there part ⬇️ but my own personal philosophy regarding how I would write same-sex relationships (which, in broader terms, goes beyond romantic/platonic/etc) is that there's (sometimes) a "competition of ego" you're less likely to see in a heterosexual one. Take for instance, Lilanette. Their antagonistic relationship is bolstered by the fact that they need to prove themselves better than the other, and this is a competition both on the fronts of intelligence/wit and of gender. Is this a good thing? No. Fuck no, it's horribly toxic and reveals that both parties in this relationship are deeply insecure. But it's a way of dealing with themes of gender presentation and conformity that I'm fond of. Guess you could say that's also very Utenaesque, Shiojuri and Tousai loosely follow that conceit at points.
Since Félix and Luka are both--in my wonderful world--deeply insecure individuals, I would want them to bring that out of each other. The rationalism vs spiritualism ideological divide is the most egregious example I could think of, but you could definitely find more instances of it, I think. Luka is prosocial and Félix is misanthropic. Luka tends to react and Félix tends to take charge. So on, so forth.