Hey, hereâs a thought. Maybe childfree shouldnât be synonymous with âchild-hatingâ.
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Hey, hereâs a thought. Maybe childfree shouldnât be synonymous with âchild-hatingâ.
I'm not sure why you think opisaterf said what she said as a feminist or anti-patriarchal act. Literally all she said was that she didn't like children and would never have them for personal reasons. Why are you ascribing opinions to her that she never expressed?
Iâm sorry, did I reference the OP somewhere specifically? Yeah, I take issue with her breastfeeding post, which sheâs been pretty dragged for, but I donât care if she wants kids one way or the other. Frankly, Iâm all for women choosing not to have children for whatever reasons they choose, and I think choosing not to have children is actually an advisable choice that should be more widespread among the female population.
I suppose you could say my post was inspired by her, however, and this recent hash of âbreastfeeding is gross and kids are grossâ post-battles which, imo, are entirely problematic and, hey, also totally relevant to feminism seeing as we are the bearers of children and the ideologies surrounding these things dictate the reality of our female lives. Such attitudes are reminiscent of many Iâve encountered in the feminist/âmodern womanâ community, wherein claiming to hate children is somehow portrayed as this BOLD and STICKING-IT-TO-THE-MAN statement. If people can seriously claim they havenât observed the same attitudes ever, in any community, I think they are either oblivious, lying, or just havenât thought about it critically. And my point is that rejecting motherhood and the compulsive nurturing demanded of us women should not manifest itself in hating an entire class of human beings frequently marginalized by these same âchild-hatingâ adults who hold power over them. I donât condone this attitude or these statements toward children. It is unethical and holds a lot implications for how we view children in our society (as possessions of adults, and as subject to any and all harmful adult whims).
You guys are acting worse then when people criticize or say they hate femininity. Kind of embarrassing.
Yeah, except femininity is a concept, not a class of human beings âșïž
The only fuzzy question that arises for me out of this is when do male children become active participants in patriarchy? How can you simultaneously understand them to be subjugated by adults (particularly males), which I absolutely do believe to be true, while at the same time understanding that eventually their agency will be such that they will be absolute contributors to the patriarchy that does effect women and girls of all ages? When does their existence as privileged males overwhelm their existence as subjugated children so that we can lay blame on them for our suffering under patriarchy?
âHating Childrenâ is not a feminist statement nor a feminist act. You may hate motherhood, you may justifiably condemn societyâs expectation that you embrace motherhood or the requirement that you behave in a nurturing manner in opposition to your personal capacities for maternal behavior, and you may resent the forced sacrifice of your body to children on the basis of your existence as a female, but Hating Children is not a bold and subversive act against the patriarchy.
Children are not your oppressors in patriarchy. They are a tool of men, their own innocence and powerlessness used against them so that they may be used as pawns for male interests and male oppressions, but children are not the oppressors, therefore the flagrant statement of hatred toward them strikes me as absurd, as well as completely indefensible. They are human beings who suffer under their designation as adult property, and as whipping posts for adult angers and frustrations. They are not your radical political statement, or yours to express comfortable prejudice against as if that somehow didnât contribute to their suffering under adult power. They are a class of humans like any other- I would even go so far as to argue a class of humans subject to disenfranchisement- so stop projecting rightful disgust with male power systems on to them as if it were somehow justifiable or sensical in a feminist political framework (wherein targeting them accomplishes nothing of any appreciable value for our liberation).
As a woman, why arenât I allowed to shame breastfeeding moms?
there are aromantic het men on this site whose sexuality is literally fucking women without loving them, and tumblr cries about âprotectingâ these âq*eers.â yet, lesbians are said to think of women as walking vaginas? people on this site think theyâre progressive even though theyâre just repackaging male worship and lesbian hate.
"Protect males who have been hitting-it-and-quitting-it and making women feel used and discarded since the dawn of time AT ALL COSTS!!!"
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Arsham Parsi, who crossed from Iran to Turkey by train in 2005, says that while living in the city of Kayseri, in central Turkey, he was beaten up, and then refused hospital treatment for a dislocated shoulder, simply because he was gay. After that he didnât leave his house for two months.
Later he moved to Canada and set up a support group, the Iranian Railroad for Queer Refugees. He says he receives hundreds of inquiries every week, and has helped nearly 1,000 people leave Iran over the past 10 years.
Some are fleeing to avoid gender reassignment surgery, but others have had treatment and find they still face prejudice. Parsi estimates that 45% of those who have had surgery are not transgender but gay.
âYou know when you are 16 and they say youâre in the wrong body, and itâs very sweet⊠you think. âOh I finally worked out whatâs wrong with me,ââ he says.
When one woman called him from Iran recently with questions about surgery, he asked her if she was transsexual or lesbian. She couldnât immediately answer - because no-one had ever told her what a âlesbianâ was.
This is LITERALLY the natural outgrowth of genderist ideology. Â This is the only logical place where it can go. Â There can be no âargumentâ against this mentality, right? Â Because there is âno such thingâ as a penis or a vagina, or, more accurately, because penis is vagina if you identify it as such and vice versa, forced surgery SHOULDNâT MATTER because the parts are all the same!
Meanwhile, lesbians do not even have a name for themselves. Â They cannot be because they have no idea who they are. Â
Aliceâs rabbit hole might, apparently, have a bottom. Â And it is the most hellacious, dystopic, Wonderland imaginable.
45% is a bold estimation when nobody tells lesbians what a lesbian even is
also, men still canât fucking be feminists
hows that for fucking âelitismâÂ
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I donât think feminism stands to gain anything by pretending that itâs easy to be a feminist. When I see or hear things like â80% of the world is feminist, a feminist is anyone who believes women should be equal,â Iâm not comforted. I donât see what the movement has to gain by pretending that misogyny is not the default in most people, and that being a feminist is as easy as buying into a buzzword. Feminism is hard. It requires examining our own beliefs and behaviors, a constant struggle to root out misogynist and patriarchal beliefs and behaviors, analysis of how our actions and the actions of others are harmful to women, and a conscious effort to change. Not just one time, but every day. To pretend that anyone who âbelieves in equalityâ is automatically a feminist is to leave the status quo untouched, to dress up oppressive behavior as liberating if we affix a âlikes womenâ badge to it. To pretend that the fix is easy is to ignore that the disease permeates every aspect of our society, and to avoid naming the problem and telling people that work is actually involved is to fail women in the name of making others comfortable.
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