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[sorin-sunchild]

Some people will say with their whole hearts that a dead woman is more valuable than a living trans man and expect this statement to be greeted without resistance and as a statement of trans/feminism and not raging and inappropriate trans(andro)phobia simply because they themselves are trans especially if they're also trans men or masc and this needs to become unacceptable again.

[ramenheim]

Saw this tidbit in reply on an actually sensible post trying to discuss the material (+misogynistic) harms against transmascs not disappearing if you say some set of magic words bc that's not how Self-Identifying works.

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Like it becomes pretty telling that transmedicalism and sex=gender is EXTREMELY engrained in transandrophobes' minds where a trans man— IN HIS WHOLLY UNALTERED DEFAULT STATE THE VERY FIRST ONE HE FINDS HIMSELF IN— is somehow not the example of '''archetypical transmasculinity''' that we should be listening to, and instead only REAL TRANSEXUALS [ppl who pay to get legal+medical intervention to look like CIS varients of their genders] should be deferred to when speaking on feminism, trans rights, and *contributing to what counts as the ''real'' trans experience*.

They don't believe in trans rights. They believe in wealthy Cis Assimilation.

[byjove]

the leopards eating your face party have started eating Erika Kirk’s face after months of her being a very merry widow and soaking up her time in the spotlight

[byjove]

Candace Owens started a rumor she was somehow involved with Charlie’s death which is not true, she was probably just relieved he died before she had to file the divorce papers

[byjove]

I would feel bad for her but I don’t 😌

[stonefemmesiren]

and I say again any women's shelter that turns away trans women and mothers of boys is fraudulent and deserves to be cleared out for an agency actually willing to do the work

[princesspersephone6-deactivated]

I just wanna add some nuance to this

a lot of women that need shelters are victims of sex trafficking. at that point, the most important thing is that their pimp does not have access to them. allowing amab into female spaces allows for this possibility because legally they would not be able to turn the pimp away. the ONLY LEGAL PROTECTION THEY HAVE is to not allow males. this is not personal, it is a legal thing and the only way that the legal system is set up at all in a way that can protect these women. I keep saying the word legal because sometimes uninformed people take things personally and are not aware of the context that these rules were created in.

also going after womens shelters for your internet social justice is pretty low. go volunteer.

[dirtspren]

girl you can refuse anyone you believe to be a threat ???? this is made up you're being weird.

[princesspersephone6-deactivated]

"believe to be a threat" is still legal language so you'd potentially have to justify the belief if it came to that

[0ctopede]

hi trafficking survivor who's been in a DV shelter, you literally have no idea what you're talking about. shelters can kick out whoever they want and literally what fucking shelter is going to be told by someone there "that person is my abuser" and not kick them out + help said person escape since their location is clearly compromised? my shelter knew who my abuser was. how is it that you think these shelters even work? also trans women can be trafficking victims, I would much rather share space with them than someone like you. especially with the way you clearly jump to sexual harassment as a comeback, you are clearly the one who is not safe to be around survivors. please stop using survivors of serious organized crime to fuel your concern troll hatespeech (:

[isuggestlandback]

I went to a market recently that was absolutely swimming in appropriation of First Nations religious and cultural items.

I'm talkin white people selling rattles and dream catchers, white people banging First Nations style drums, white people teaching talking stick workshops, that kinda shit

So what do you do when you see this crap? How do you show your disapproval in a way that makes them give a shit?

I'll tell you what I do. The point is to show them that appropriating Indigenous cultures will lose them customers.

When I see fakey Native art I say something like "Oh wow, you make dreamcatchers! What nation are you from?" (Use tribe in the states)

I used to ask point blank if they were Native, but I'd nearly always get some Cherokee great grandmother bullshit, or even "I'm not sure, I could have some Native in me!"

Most of the time they don't know what I'm talking about, because they're not Native and don't know that this is a very normal thing to ask when meeting another Native.

When they ask me what I mean I say "I mean your tribe, which First Nation are you from?"

This is the point where they sheepishly mumble that they are not First Nations.

I let my face fall and say something like "Oh. That's disappointing" or "Wow. Unfortunate."

I let it get awkward. And then I leave, shaking my head in disapproval.

You may feel like you need to educate them on cultural appropriation but here's the thing: it's 2025. They know. Brenda the middle class reiki shaman is FULLY aware that her smudge fans are stolen culture. She doesn't care. The only way to make them care is to hit them where it hurts: the wallet.

Make them think that you would have purchased what they are selling if it was AUTHENTIC.

If you wanna go the extra mile send an email to the organizers, in your best white people voice, and tell them that you are disappointed that they are facilitating culture theft.

Go out and make Brenda uncomfortable!

[biophonies]

not to be a snitch, but if this is happening in the US you can also straight up report Brenda for a fine up to $250k under the Indian Arts and Crafts Act.

[qthewhatever]

man idk where y'all are getting the confidence to publicly question a stranger's race but i'm happy for you

[cyberphuck]

DISCLAIMER: this is an unsolicited opinion from someone who is not Native and does not claim to be Native and to the best of my knowledge has no claims to being Native. I failed a Native American Studies class in college and have existed alongside Native people who were happy to tell me stories but that's it. I feel like excitedly asking "is this authentic? from what tribe?" isn't questioning race per se. It's been a long time since I've been to a pow wow but even people who aren't yet sure where their bloodlines actually go should at least know where they're taking inspiration from in their art. But Q is right-- there are many people who are registered to a tribe that are white-passing (Lily Gladstone*) and many people who "look"** Native who probably aren't (Iron Eyes Cody) and genetics can be a real fucker. I speak from personal experience as the ginger offspring of a Japanese man. While at my first pow wow in college (I was taking Native American studies just because I thought it was neat), my dumbass mother was taking photos while the arena was being cleansed. The in-charge lady who told her to knock it off definitely looked like a Brenda, but we trusted that the other in-charge Native people knew much better than we did whether Brenda was authentic or not. So if you start interrogating Brenda about who *exactly* in her family was of Native heritage, you might "and everybody clapped" or you more likely will be escorted from the premises and told not to come back. (*white passing, as in "could pass as white" I will not be entertaining bad faith arguments at this time.) (**"look Native" here meaning "look like how mainstream Hollywood media typically depicts Native people." I will not be entertaining bad faith arguments at this time.)

[isuggestlandback]

I don't get to not question stranger's races when it comes to selling native crafts, my culture nearly went extinct!

Asking someone where they are from/what Indigenous nation they have ties to is how Natives get to know each other.

I gave her the benefit of the doubt and asked her, honestly, what nation she was from, and she answered that she was an entire white person. Yadda yadda yadda, cultural appropriation, send post.

I order my own french fries too.

[cyberphuck]

First of all and most important, I apologize for speaking over you. it wasn’t my intention but I acknowledge that my post sounded douchey. You can stop reading after this line if you want, because I have an explanation but I don’t want it to seem like I’m trying to clap back.

Since Q and I aren’t Native my post was mostly aimed at other non-native people who see white passing people selling what appear to be native inspired goods but feel weird about asking them outright what their race is. I didn’t really make this clear in my reply which was dumb of me. I was speaking from personal experience as a non-native person standing on the outside of the culture and looking in. I am ordering french fries for the other people in my group who have only ever seen french fries in movies and letting them know that no, french fries are not really from France and you don’t need to say bonjour to them.

(if you are still reading I ask that you please give Q a pass. They did not say anything that I said and I did not consult them before I said anything that I said.)

[isuggestlandback]

Have you ever heard of mansplaining?

[cyberphuck]

Sure. I'm not a man though, and explaining my own reasons for doing something is not mansplaining, it's saying, "oh sorry, this is what I meant by that." FYI I have apologized and turned away to leave the venue and you have just tapped me on the shoulder to try to continue the argument. This is not worth either of our time and I have other things to give my attention to right now.

[monkey-mulch]

Follow up, unrelated to isuggestlandback here: do you know what whitesplaining is?

And this was you coming INTO the venue to argue in the first place. You and Q there.

[qthewhatever]

what'd i do??? i literally just said i am not brave enough to attempt this??? leave me alone!!!!

[rambling-crerchur]

"ageplay is fine if the practice of it does not lead to the practicioners normalizing interacting sexually with minors" ok but isnt your entire reason to harass a disabled trans women? you can't go "its fine as long as its not a slipper slope" to "look at this women think of how depraved she is behind closed doors" you fucking hypocrite

She sent porn to a 13 year old trans girl. Thats why I care when she talks about being into ageplay. She is a pedophile who has acted. That makes it different.

[learn-how-to-love]

Why are so many of the worst transandrophobes I block on here major homestuck fans. Like homestuck pfp and everything, sometimes even doing those (personally really annoying) typing quirks WHILE shitting on transmascs. What is it about homestuck that breeds anti-transmasculine sentiment I’ve never read it so

[zeiatsuggestion]

Homestuck had a LOT of “this character being a lesbian is good, if you draw the same characters genderbended it’s bad and means you hate lesbians” even before we got canonical main trans characters

[iamtiredofyourhorror]

Actually fucking sick of takes like this. "Trans men shut up about women's issues!" Can you take 2 fucking seconds to think critically and realize that just because we identify a way doesnt mean we instantly get the privilege and status of Man? Non-passing trans men get treated like defective women, trans men with uteruses and ovaries still have to deal with the fear of pregnancy, trans men in still have to deal with laws targeted at "women" because guess what? Until we 100% pass as cis men we are either seen as women pretending to be men, weird girls, lesbians, or ANYTHING BUT "REAL MEN".

I censored op so leave op alone this isnt an invitation to go harrass a trans woman but holy shit. Yes we dont belong in womens spaces but we do have a voice on "womens issues" because a lot of "womens issues" ARE JUST ISSUES FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE PERCIEVED AS WOMEN AND TRANS MEN GET LUMPED IN THERE. MISOGYNY DOESNT QUIT EFFECTING US!

[zeiatsuggestion]

Also some trans men are bigender it’s not necessarily sus if a trans guy is also a woman in ways he’s comfortable with

[rahmanaw]

I hit you with so many bats.

[aquayurufuwatraveler]

2025.6.14 東京 上石神井　ありがとう旧2000系撮影会

主役の旧2000系

[ajokeaboutadog]

every nb you know will become one of three-ish kinds of people. If they're unlucky they'll become multiple kinds of people in a really annoying and bothersome way. There's three and the first one is painful and the second one I'm afraid to write, but the one I'm going to give the most time and word count to is Steven Universe. It's Steven Universe from tv, do you want a bubble-shield, ma'am? Do you want to go to the arcade, ma'am? Do you need to power your light cannon, use my energy, because I'm a crystal that never gets bruised ma'am. Do you want another Beach City citizens episode, ma'am? Oh. . . ok you're just going to skip that one, that's perfectly fine, ma'am. . .

[vanglaggle]

me: wow im super sensitive and emotional right now. what the hell is going on

the notorious menstrual cycle:

[church-of-crayak]

just like elfangor

[phaeton-flier]

Stupid, chauvinist misogyny: Men are X, which is good, while Women are Y, which is bad

Woke, Feminist Take: Men are X, which is reactionary, while women are Y, which is enlightened

[phaeton-flier]

Maybe, just spitballing here, maybe we don't have to do the "Women are from Venus, Men are from Mars" stuff at all. Maybe men and women aren't all that different, maybe the differences between individuals are far more important, maybe we just talk about good or bad behaviors directly instead of having to force everything into war of the sexes shit.

[phaeton-flier]

Some of you learned the shadows on the wall are fake but are stuck insisting the puppets being used to cast them are real

[status-quo-hater]

There are other transmed beliefs becides needing dysphoria to be trans, you all know that, right? You know that "brain sex" is a transmed talking point, right??

[scramratz]

Truscum this comic is not for you

[woodchipp]

So there's an interesting detail I noticed. As far as we know, the Graves family's visit to their grandparents, where Andy accidentally contacted Lord Unknown for the first time, took place before Nina's death...

...yet Andy was already a grime soul at the time, as evidenced by the out-of-body experience he has at the very start of the episode.

Given that a soul's color in TCOAAL is determined by the individual person's own perception of themselves and the entire "How to Be a Walking Disappointment" segment that follows a bit later, the most reasonable explanation for this would be that Andy already saw himself as an awful person due to Renee's abuse. It's the "my parents don't like me = there's something inherently wrong with me" logic very common in abused children.

Andrew was convinced he was horrible since before the age of 10.

[juzuchiha]

ah........ :(

[hamptercatapult]

i think that it is very telling that the average transandro complaint is "stop calling me names it makes me very sad. stop intercommunity bullying" whereas the average transfem has already been harassed out of her virtual [and usually irl] community and isolated from her peers and family and is constantly working to pick up the scraps of her safety and happiness. do we perhaps understand how these ['transaŋdrophobia' vs transmisogyny] are neither an equal form of oppression nor an equal expression of aggression towards trans people.

[velvetvexations]

Just recently transmasc minors were doxed for believing in transandrophobia, and the same person who went after ISFF successfully went after ISFM. You literally just don't listen to transmascs when they tell you they experience the same things, so you assume they don't. These things happen to them too. When you say they don't, you are at best ignorant, and at worst lying about another regularly brutalized minority group.

I'm a trans woman, btw, so understand that I have a perfectly good sense of what transfems experience and don't treat me like someone who doesn't and only thinks "transandros" have the same level of issues because I don't get transmisogyny.

[crimsonender]

Hi, trans man here. I was made homeless 3 times for being a trans man. SA'd for being a trans man. Cut off from half of my family for being a trans man. Clean the crap out of your ears and listen to us.