Who else is going through the "byler stages of grief?" I'm still at anger.
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Who else is going through the "byler stages of grief?" I'm still at anger.
My father. He's anti queer characters in media. Thinks there's a gay agenda. The kind of guy to jeer "go woke go broke." An author. A script writer. A movie director. My father. Thinks that the Duffers chickened out of byler. Let that sink in.
My family's watching the latest episode of st in the living room and I hear them making byler bets my mum just said that she thinks there'll be some overly emotional confession I wanna run in there and get them to quit while they're ahead oh my goodness my anguish from last night is flooding back
How it feels going into the finale with byler hope.
Finished volume 2. I was up all night rethinking the entire show from a one-sided byler point of view. And there's one thing, one thought, that was just so weird from that perspective. If byler is one-sided this season, then what the frig is Mike's arc?
No I'm serious. Okay, in past seasons sometimes our main characters didn't have direct character arcs, just point blank missions that they achieved by the end of the season. But in season 5? The last of the show? EVERYONE has an arc. EVERYONE is overcoming SOMEthing. I mean for pete's sake Mike's MOM has an arc. And these characters don't just have established struggles that we're watching them grow through, they have GOOD established struggles that we're watching them grow through. Like seriously. I've found these stories so engaging. You can't show me Dustin's beautifully written breakdowns, Jancy's heartfelt confession scene, HOLLY who hasn't even been a proper CHARACTER until recently growing into everyone's new favourite, and DEREK — and then show me Mike. Who's over here fading into the wallpaper behind him.
I mean... is this guy not a main character? No no no, I'm being too generous..... IS THIS GUY NOT THE MAIN CHARACTER????? I mean do the writers just not like him? I was so proud to see him actually doing things in volume 1. Volume 2 though it seems he's back to playing a supporting role. I mean mate why is this guy's face the second or third biggest on the poster when literally every other character has had more substance than he has. Is he only here to play will they won't they with Will and touchy feely with El? So far his greatest contributions have been motivating them supporting their powers. But what about him? He has had absolutely no established internal struggles. Now that. Is a dull character.
Unless.....
Unless... literally in the finale — which is a very weird choice as is — we have a plot centered around him. Him. And his feelings for Will. We've done everything we can do with Will and his self-acceptance and etc I think. So that's done. Now this guy can just love himself with or without Mike. Cool cool cool cool. Okay now let's just give Mike some crazy reveal and make up for his lack of character last minute. At least then. I'd sort of get it. It could be.. like.. a surprise. Still a strange writing choice but the alternative is literally just that he's a joke character and was only ever created to stand there and look pretty. To take on tasks that you could interchangeably give to literally any other character.
And, I do not think he's going to be integral to El in the finale. She's planning to sacrifice herself, which could've definitely warranted Mike's input, but I get the gist that this is being set up as something that Hopper has to confront. I mean really, who are you more interested in seeing respond to El's choice, Mike or Hop? We can all safely say that El and Hopper have been set up to overcome this particular hurdle together.
Will? Will's arc is sort of incomplete. He hasn't confessed his crush. And this is a reaction the Duffer's know we're waiting to see. Why leave us in suspense?
"Hey Mike, the crush, it was you."
"Thank you for telling me Will. You're my best friend. And we'll always be friends.
And the reason I didn't hug you when we reunited that one time but can hug you now is just cause I was a little awkward.
And the reason I asked you about your painting only to interrupt you when you started to explain your painting is just cause I'm a little awkward.
And the reason I made sure you knew that we're friends twice is just cause that's a random thing I do sometimes for dramatic effect. Srry I was mainly worried about my gf.
And that scene where I apologized for my actions wasn't flirty at all.
Friends talk to each other like that all the time. You can image Dustin and Steve talking to each other like this too right? See? Platonic.
And the gay jokes this season?
They were just for the funsies. You see the writers like leaving gay easter eggs for fans to find for no efing reason, but still don't really have the energy to write me a personality yet. And that makes sense.
And I was always going to reject you btw.
Just so you know. And that's not wasted time at all. Fans will be satisfied with that conclusion."
Okay I'm going to sleep.
Tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow tomorrow
I'm feeling so many feelings right now i can't —
after YEARS of byler theories THIS IS BASICALLY IT. THIS IS IT. LIKE THIS IS IT
Now I don't know WHERE this Christmas will take us but guys I've loved swapping theories with you all these years. I've loved the gates, the art, the stories, the anticipation. Every sad day, every excited cheer... it was all worth it.
The byler community is like a little family to me, and will always be dear in my heart. Now I know that's a little cheesy but I really do mean it.
Crazy together. Merry Christmas!
What I find hilarious is that some parts of the anti-byler fandom feel the need to post angry videos desperately insisting that byler is in no way ever going to happen. Like, listen, if it's not going to happen then.. what's the point of your video? Clearly you have nothing to worry about so why are you out here trying to convince me? 😭
it genuinely breaks my mind that byler is like ... MAIN mainstream now. like my friend showed me a byler edit on tiktok with 3 million likes. what the fuck is happening
We as a people don't talk about this enough.
Do I need to elaborate?
Let us all collectively take a moment to appreciate the fact that byler is more popular now than ever before.
I'm seeing bylers on all corners of the internet and people claiming they've "converted." Everyone's talking about it, everyone who has watched the season is at least considering it. I've never before been met with so much daily byler content.
Now imagine if ST writers accidentally made this "one-sided" pairing one of the most — no, I think I can confidentially say the most — popular ships the show has. Can you imagine? Or if this was just HARDCORE queerbait? Now how is that more unlikely than a heavily proofed gay relationship? I mean it's 2025 man. The odds are in our favor.
Ok guys.. the time has come.
I'm really excited to see what comes of this season, which I'm sure you all are too! There's so much that's going to be uncovered, including where byler's headed of course. To think that the next time I open this app things might be totally different in this community for better or for worse.
We've had our ups and our downs, but we've continued moving forwards through it all. And I know that it was all worth it and that nothing will ever change that.
Well - guess I'll see you on the other side
It has been three years since this post. THREE YEARS. This was for season 4 volume 1, and it now applies to season 5 volume 1. Oh my goodness if byler at least becomes obvious in this first half then I swear I'm gonna graduate with my masters and then get my PhD and then become a billion air and literally anything will be possible because if 12 year old me (I am now an ADULT I have been in this game a WHILE) was right about byler ALL ALONG (that little shit was mocked and side-eyed for years) then, yo, I don't care I'm a genius. and we all are. and we're gonna do great things. thank you and goodnight.
I think it's so funny and coincidental how whenever a byler-related question is asked only Noah or Finn are present to respond to it—which probably makes it easier to answer without spoiling anything, as if the both of them were to talk about their characters' relationship this season at the same time it could be much too telling. Finn navigated the question very well here, very professional. The confused direction makes it so clear to me that he really can't say ANYTHING about how they'll be interacting s5.
Gaten's face is literally statuesque 😂 it's so funny. They've been so hyper, to see them suddenly react so carefully is just hilarious.
You know what I'm so ready for? And it's gonna sound so weird. When the deadline for stranger things s5 fast approaches there is going to be more and more visceral byler hate. It happened with s4 and it's gonna happen again. This toxic madness is the other side shaking in their boots. It's a sign that they're scared. Intimidated. Feel the fury my loves, embrace it. It's a sign that we're winning.
This needs a reblog. Relevant now more than ever before
"It's Hawkins it's not the same without you."
That's crazy how's byler not yet canon again?
the funniest shit to me is that almost every single one of the main theories kaypeace21 posted on tumblr #back in the day are looking to be true. people are losing their minds about theories that she thought years ago. Will byers has powers, the sa allegory, almost every byler proof from s1 to s3, vecna being the one behind will's disappearance, and probably more.
kaypeace21 carried the fandom on their back during the dark ages between the release of season 3 and 4.
SO WHY WHEN NOAH'S TALKING POSITIVELY ABOUT WILL'S ARC DOES THE CAMERA LINGER ON FINN NODDING?? BYLERS IS THIS WINNING???
bro how much byler content is this season going to HAVE BRO
this whole INTERVIEW was byler coded